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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Velund
1 Mar 2022  #2671

illegally and unjustifiably invaded

Was attack of Serbia legal?
Was secession of Kosovo legal?
Was destroying Libya legal?
Was making Iraq a hell ******** without law and order legal?

stop that childish "democratic" bullsh*it.

They can't. This is kind of "Holy Cow". They don't know why, but this mantra should be repeated.

Cojestdocholery
1 Mar 2022  #2672

PUTIN who pushes the button first!

I say no need to wait for that crazy go wild. Just nuke them first. USA has ablity to do before they fire their nukes.

Putin is going to clean these criminals from Europe one by one.

As I said Russia war on USA.

I suppose that's what happens when senility kicks in :)

he a russian troll that his secret!

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2022  #2673

Putin is going to clean these criminals from Europe one by one.

How so?

Please explain....

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2674

I dunno....you tell me!

Simple. All that bs talk about Ukraine's freedom and democracy is pure crap and a deflection. I asked what does Putin want. Point by point. No answer because the specifics would be laughable and make the Ukrainian "heroes" look like suicidal idiots.

So I will answer my question. He wants NATO-free Ukraine - just as it is today. Forever. No, he will not start exterminating Ukrainians or throwing babies out of incubators. He would copy Crimea or close to it. BFD!

To assure that, he wants all the foreign scum out of Ukraine. Those should be executed on apprehension, Katyn-style, as saboteurs.

GefreiterKania
1 Mar 2022  #2675

USA has ablity to do before they fire their nukes.

Isn't mainland USA quite safe from nukes because of the "rocket shield" (or whatever that's called)? Surely in case of nuclear war between Russia and USA, Russians would suffer much greater losses (fewer of their rockets would reach their targets).

Crnogorac3
1 Mar 2022  #2676

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Velund
1 Mar 2022  #2677

You people dont even understand how close this is now.

Plastic poles is ready to fight for Ukraine till a last Pole. ;) It is nice thing to be on another continent sometimes.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2022  #2678

He wants NATO-free Ukraine

He HAD a NATO-free Ukraine....see what it got them!

That was an error, one we hopefully don't repeat....

He would copy Crimea or close to it. BFD!

Crimeans had been mainly positive....most of them see themselves as Russians....they didn't fight it! Okay....

Now compare that with Ukraine....a TOTALLY different kettle of fish!

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2679

Isn't mainland USA quite safe from nukes because

I have told you to go outside and play with other kids and you are still here? Playing nuclear world strategist is bad for your tummy.

He HAD a NATO-free Ukraine....

I noticed how you skipped "forever" in my post.

Cojestdocholery
1 Mar 2022  #2680

Surely in case of nuclear war between Russia and USA, Russians

Don't stand the chance. The only reason Russia is some danger becasue they have so many nukes. I think USA can make some of them detonate before they launch them..

gumishu
1 Mar 2022  #2681

So I will answer my question. He wants NATO-free Ukraine - just as it is today.

I have already answered this argument of yours once - but I'll repeat - Macron (and Scholz) promised to Putin that they would block any initiative to invite Ukraine into NATO - that's what they thought would be enough for Putin not to start a war (nobody will be victorious in this war except maybe China) - however as the recent events have shown Putin was bent on invading (and lied through his teeth to both Macron and Scholz)

Cojestdocholery
1 Mar 2022  #2682

I noticed how you skipped "forever" in my post.

Kick Russia out of Europe that is much better plan.

Crnogorac3
Stop posting that nosense. It so stupid that is not even funny.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2022  #2683

I noticed how you skipped "forever" in my post.

Okay....sorry....so:

He HAD a NATO-free Ukraine....FOREVER!

One of the main guarantors had been Germany....we were exactly because of that always against a membership of Ukraine in anything "to close" to Europe....because of russian concerns, and against Germany nobody becomes a member....NEVER AGAIN!

We were so fooled by Putin, we believed him when he said he feels "encircled", "threatened"....what idiots he made of us!

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2684

Macron (and Scholz) promised

It takes more than a promise. Promises can be broken. Germany "promised" and in 1941 attacked.

GefreiterKania
1 Mar 2022  #2685

I have told you to go outside and play with other kids and you are still here?

... and I told you to keep wallowing in Putin's sh*t, pinworm.

Don't stand the chance. (...) I think USA can make some of them detonate before they launch them.

Exactly.

Velund
1 Mar 2022  #2686

He HAD a NATO-free Ukraine....see what it got them!

Russia HAD promises that NATO will not expand "one inch" eastern to Oder.

Look where NATO now. So, Russia is making what consider necessary to assure that Ukraine NEVER be source ot threat anymore.

Yes, it is necesary to complete frozen civil war of 1940's to do this. No chances to avoid this, grandsons of OUN/UPA crap that have blood on their hands have to be destroyed or imprisoned.

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2022  #2687

Russia HAD promises that NATO will not expand "one inch" eastern to Oder.

A link?

I never heard of that...

Cojestdocholery
1 Mar 2022  #2688

No chances to avoid this, grandsons of OUN/UPA

You are delusional. Have you seen those people fight in the east and center of Ukrainie? There no UPA.. Under stand?

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2689

have to be destroyed or imprisoned.

Start with Soros-class saboteurs - foreign Jews with American money. Kill them on sight.
@Crnogorac3
That list of US bombing targets is precious. Thanks. I will copy it and keep it for future use.
OK, Russia haters, here is your chance to post something like that. You can even include the USSR to feel better, morons.

Tacitus
1 Mar 2022  #2690

This is an interesting lesson. Russia is invading another country without justification. It is bombarding Ukrainian cities and killing civilians. Putin is ranting in his speech - which is available for anyone to see - that the democratically elected, Russian-speaking president with jewish roots is supposedly a fascist Nazi Ukrainian nationalist. And yet some still defend the Russian war of agression.

Russian posters are somewhat excused because they are exposed to propaganda 24/7. They could know better but still. Crow is a nutcase who made it clear in the past that he dreams of further Serbian genocide. He is mentally disturbed and should get treatment. Rich is a special case though. We know from the past that he is an utterly hate-filled individual. But he is not crazy. He could know better but chooses not to. If you want to know why fascism was succesful once, look no further than him. He would have followed Hitler immediately. He might even follow him today if he returned, despite knowing what fascism leads to (or perhaps, in the hope of the same outcome)?

I hope posters remember this when they feel the urge to reply Rich in the future.

Russia HAD promises

Please cite the treaty in which those promises were made.

Russia has pledged to respect the right of any country to choose its' alliance in the Charta of Paris. That was a binding promise. But Russia's promises are worthless, as we know from the Budapest memorandum.

Cojestdocholery
1 Mar 2022  #2691

I never heard of that...

Who cares? Poland didn't promise anything, so Russia can ...off!

Start with Soros-class saboteurs

No, start with you a Russian propaganda dog!

PolAmKrakow
1 Mar 2022  #2692

@Novichok
Maybe someone should come to Chicago and drag you out of your home for not supporting your country. That sounds about the same.

@Velund
What city are you in exactly?

As for the rest. This is a very serious situation. I told my family this morning that Poland is likely the next target if Putin succeeds, and if he uses a nuke, no place is safe. That said, I am getting myself a weapon in case I get a chance or have to protect my home. I have zero problems taking a few out from my high perch if needed. Just being in a tree stand. Anyone thinking this can not spill over into Poland, and anyone not prepared for it is not thinking clearly.

If anything Velund and the other trolls are right about one thing. Putin will not stop unless he is killed or he has Ukraine. He is cornered and he is a mad dog. He is not brave enough to kill himself, he will take everyone with him if required. In the end that says all you need to know about him mentally. He should have been killed a long time ago. The biggest failure of the whole world was letting him live this long. Civilized rules be damned when it comes to a leader like him, they must be taken out.

GefreiterKania
1 Mar 2022  #2693

@Tacitus Great post!

If you want to know why fascism was succesful once, look no further than him. He would have followed Hitler immediately.

No doubt.

johnny reb
1 Mar 2022  #2694

Can you show me any convention that prohibit weapons with volume explosion (AKA Vacuum Bombs)?

Yes, they are in breach of the Geneva Convention.

c-span.org/video/?c5003667/ukrainian-ambassador-russia-vacuum-bomb-breach-geneva-convention

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Protocol

Same apples with cluster bombs that Koo Koo is using to kill innocent civilians with.

Crnogorac3
1 Mar 2022  #2695

A link?

DER SPIEGEL published a document found in the British Archives stating that representatives of the United States, Germany, Britain and France had agreed not to expand NATO east of the Elbe in 1991.

"Chrobog said we needed new ideas on how to provide for the Security of Central and East European Countries. We had made it clear during the 2+4 negotiations that we would not extend Nato beyond the elbe (sic). We could not therefor offer membership of Nato to Poland and the others."

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I mean, it was quite clear that Gorbachev did not invent it when he said that, but now the confirmation from Western sources has finally arrived.

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2696

Russia is invading another country without justification.

Said a PF "adult". Why don't you ask Putin to let you into the Kremlin Situation Room and see what they see. I know that to the average moron, the past does not exist, and the future is the next 24 hours, "democracy" is good, and all people are nice.

Maybe someone should come to Chicago and drag you out of your home for not supporting your country.

FOAH

Velund
1 Mar 2022  #2697

A link?

nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

Bratwurst Boy
1 Mar 2022  #2698

I hope posters remember this when they feel the urge to reply Rich in the future.

Replying only to likeminded posters, with the same opinion as yours, gets boring quickly though....

Cojestdocholery
1 Mar 2022  #2699

I mean, it was quite clear

Again. Who cares? Poland wasn't asked! Russia need to be kicked out of Europe and Germany need to pay for what they did. At least their elites should made to pay!

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2700

agreed not to expand NATO east of the Elbe in 1991.

Finally, we are on the only subject that matters, not sobbing kids and mothers.


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