Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

Despite the lies and propaganda coming from Russians, Serbs in some Slavic wonderworld and other Putin admirers.
It is clear to all that this war is going very badly for Russia and was a huge mistake.
Militarily, they have lost thousands of troops and tons of assets.
Economically, the sanctions are really starting to bite.
Reports are coming through now that MOST people in the Kremlin, oligarchs and top military now think this war was a huge mistake.
What can these Russians do about this?
Putin needs to go.That is clear to everyone.But how?
He is well isolated and protected.
But if he does not go soon, Russia will pay a terrible and long term price for his actions.
If he was toppled and even a half sensible and half trustworthy person took over, I think it would gradually change everything for Russia.
In time, they could become a reasonably wealthy nation and maybe even an alliy against the threat from China.
Time will tell.
Oh, and just one message to the idiotic Serbs that think Russia supports them for Slavic reasons.
How blind are you?
Russia is not a Slavonic country, but a multicultural and multi ethnic one.
They don't care about Slavs.
They have already invaded Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic.
And now Ukraine.
No,you Serbs are just useful idiots.

what? have you seen demographic composition in those area? historical factors doesnt matter anymore. there are no polish people in kresy or lwow ,,or germans in polish pomerania or prusy.

there will never be polish lwow. unless some nasty ethnic clensing.lol.
this is nonsense

ruSSians are f*cking liars - take for example the lies that they pulled out of their mongol a*ses about our President's grandfather... erm... NO, wait a minute... sorry... scratch that.

I take the above fragment back. Let's try this way...

I would take all the information spread by our Russian Federation friends and partners with the proverbial pinch of salt, as it would seem to be somewhat inaccurate at times. Sadly, it has to be said that we are not dealing here with what could be called polysemousness, prevarication or terminological inexactitude but with certain measure of lamentable departure form the truth. As an example of this unfortunate and somewhat disappointing habit we can refer everyone to recent Russian articles about President Andrzej Duda's grandfather.

*PF II Accords suck :( ... oh, well... I signed it, so I suppose I have to stick to it :(*

Sorry, Akcja «Wisła» taken place in the past. Poland have all chances to do the same as Soviet Union done to once deported Crimean Tatars.

There is silent panic between property owners in Lwow now. They sincerely prefer to go under Russia, because Polish property restitution laws leave them little chances. ;)

you must really think that Poles are stupid. We have some stupid politicans but not that stupid.
That is not an attractive offer but rather cheap cheese in a trap that works only for Mordor. No thanks.
Want to be nice give us Królewiec. That has some worth for Poland.

Russians killed those people, and now you're blubbering crocodile tears as an excuse to kill more people.


You are a liar.

dont underestimate stupidity of some blaszczaks or some kaczynskis,macierevicz
i wouldn't be surprised if they come up with idea of capturing kresy.

Are you ready to provide proofs in court and accept responsibility for false evidence?

DNR/LNR prosecutors have everything documented, day by day. Even names of officers, issuing orders to open fire from ukrainian positions is known in most cases.

This guy is dodgy as f*ck. When he was Defense Minister Americans said they won't sell us even a pellet shotgun as long as he remains in office. I hope he's kept away from the ability of making any important decisions in the future. :-/

So, you're Polish and pro-Russian, if I understood correctly. A rarity. How did that happen?

i remember this attack on donetsk park. when ukra jet fired on civilians killing almost 100. later ukras explained,that donetsk soldiers killed them by firing aa missiles ,and those missiles were sucked by nearby building roof vents ,changing trajectory and landing on people . i mean ,their lies have no limits.

In my court? any time.

Time wasting Russian trolls, politely go F yourselves and find a place more friendly to your BS. Ukraine will not give up any land and Russia will be defeated. Yes, it will likely take a protracted war, but make no mistake, it will happen because Russia can not win. The west will never let Russia win. This is just the way it will be. And when Putin is dead, then you can come begging forgiveness and for western ties. Until then, enjoy the $hit sandwiches.

A good one, Velund...hahahahaha...Proof and responsibility...hahahaha ... how about noodles and which ones stick...
Even a Ukrainian gov guy admitted that they don't have any evidence of war crimes involving kids. What a bummer...Luckily, PF posters are ready to send it to Kyiv.


I agree. After that victory in Afghanistan...West is undefeatable! Except by the Taliban...hahahahaha...And Vietcong...

i was following donbas people for years. seen injustice. imagine,they were banned from using their own language.imagine ,,if someone ban using polish language in warsaw. and demanded that only Somalian language must be used.lol

those people in donbass are not some immigrants. its their own land. they lived there for centuries. you cant just erase their way of life and culture by some verkhowna rada nazi bill

Are you?


The same way the ukrainian language has been banned everywhere that Russia takes over?


Why not? The Soviets did... my friend says her relatives spoke Ukrainian until a generation or so....

Only if he is the accuser.

@Novichok
Hey dumbass didnt Russia do something in Afghanistan? Ummmmm yeah, ten years there getting the $hit kicked out of them. Oh damn, wait a minute, wasn't that the ten years in which a US backed group of insurgent fighters kicked their @$$es? Yes, yes it was. So sorry to have forgotten that one arent you? The same thing will happen in Ukraine. Russia will continue to lose, because they are losing, and until the leave or Putin is dead, they will continue to lose.

I can bring those who fought there almost 5 years, and whose words have credibility for me.


Who said you that BS? Spit them to their ugly face. Ukrainian is one of three official languages in Crimea. And nobody limit any use of Ukrainian language in Russia.

Hey, as*hole, the USSR left Afghanistan for the same reason why the US left Vietnam. Neither was an existential threat. Ukraine plus the snake are different and pose a clear and present danger to Russia. Duh!


Just another noodle...

@Novichok
Existential threat? LMFAO Ukraine would never get nukes and were denied NATO. This is nothing more than Putin jacking off because he needs to create a legacy other than the turd world country he has. He needs to create some "win" when all he has done is create a criminal enterprise of a nation and has robbed his own people blind. USSR left Afghanistan because they lost to a group backed by the US. Yes, like the US lost in Vietnam. Like Russia is losing in Ukraine to US backed soldiers.

some very intense fighting along entire front line. haven't seen such intensive fighting from the begging of the war.
Chechens reports that they entered outskirts of lysychansk!!! wtf? how?
lol kadyrov said ukraine is done and now he wants poland
twitter.com/PelmeniPusha/status/1529526424436187137

Were they?

How do you "ban" using a language? Were people being arrested by the police for speaking Russian or something?


Now, that's a manipulation. Warsaw is a capital of Poland and the Polish state "demans" that Polish citizens in Warsaw and outside of it know the official language of the country. Ukraine is an independent country now with Kyiv as the capital. So, Ukrainian state "demands" that every Ukrainian citizen in Kyiv and outside of it know the official language of the country. That's normal and understandable.

Estonia went as far as granting Estonian citizenship automatically to those who lived in Estonia before 1940 and that was practically no one. Russian speakers had to pass a difficult language test to even become Estonian citizens.

Why didn't Russia invade and annex parts of Estonia for that?


Did they? That's a genuine question, because I have no idea. The Soviet Union during Stalinist times was deporting people right and left:

sciencespo.fr/mass-violence-war-massacre-resistance/fr/document/soviet-massive-deportations-chronology.html

And there was also the Holodomor that affected the most the East and the South of Ukraine:

Russians don't care about the holodomor... they'll remind you that lots of Russians starved to death and no Russians afterward gave a rat's @ss about it the same way most families now don't care when their sons die (as long as the payout is on time).

They put a low value on human life and tend to become enraged at those who don't.

They don't care when their government kills civilians and tend to become enraged at those who do care.

ban in use in schools and administration and all official use,filling documents or names of roads buildings ect.
your kids basically not allow read russian books or learn to read write ect.


geeezzzzz nobody was preventing official use of ukrainian in ukraine. but since ukraine unlike poland is very multicultural country,with areas where there is up to 80% dominance of russian language.you cant just ban use of russian language as a secondary language ffs.

not to mention, this legislation was passed by interim goverment ,made of nazi radicals from sloboda ,right sector thugs,after they remove legitimate president . and banning all not right wing nazi parties. killing and locking in prison opposition leaders.

Putin psy op nonsense, you are just the biggest old sucker in the world, aren't you? Putin could say 2+2=5 and you'd start defending him. I didn't know that Polish zhopniks exist, but.... I was wrong!

The government was promoting use of Ukrainian over Russian (the language of an unloved colonial power) but that's not a ban.

holodomor was orchestrated and planned and executed by ukrainian lazar kaganowicz, most victims were russian population in todays ukraine... errr donbas people

No way you are Polish, russians are obsessed with ethnic labels in a way that no Polish people are.


Then why don't Russians care? Millions of dead Russians and Russians don't get what the big deal is... 14,000 supposed deaths to stave off further invasion and the sky is falling.

Zhopnik hypocrisy.

garbage lie
turchinow abolished the Kivalov-Kolesnichenko language law,thus removing status of russian as regional language
and it was major reason for civil war
this bastard turchinov was not even elected ,he was appointed by some fkn victoria nuland- head of cia

Meaning that they weren't banned from using Russian in general, but from official use.


How were the kids prevented from learning to read, write or from reading Russian books at home? Or at some private language schools?


The more so there should be one official language that everyone knows, imho. Do you remember the fate of Polish Jews who didn't know Polish language despite being born in Poland? How would you find a job as a doctor in Warsaw or Kyiv or become a politician if you don't know the official language of the country? How do you follow the Ukrainian news if you don't know the language? And people wouldn't learn it out of their free will, because people are usually too lazy for that. For all those years of living in Estonia Russians didn't learn Estonian. They had to be forced to do so, unfortunately.

There's another problem with Russians/Russian speakers in those former Soviet republics, especially in Ukraine. If you know only Russian you can only watch and read Russian news. Thus it makes those people vulnerable to Russian propaganda without having any alternative. Imagine how that works... If we had a big Russian minority in Poland near the Kaliningrad area who would know only Russian language, who would refuse to learn the "fake" Polish language and would buy every bullsh1t sold to them by Russian TV channels...

How is this, all of a sudden, about Donbas and the Russian language again?

We've heard more plausible (and honest) answers in this thread already: Russia's hurt imperial feelings, Russia being fed up with not getting enough respect they think they deserve, the ambition to rebuild Russkiy Mir etc. etc. and now it's suddenly about poor people of Donbas not being able to read Tolstoy at school? Gimme a break.