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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3631

but they have a room in calendar for donbas independence day :)

Hey, if that's what local people want, then why not? But there should be a fair referendum - with international observers present.

If this f*cking war ends on 1st July, I will make it my own private celebration day. :)

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3632

@GefreiterKania

Read your article. Source is Ukrainian news site, that refers to "independent sources". Even so, it says that the date is merely the date by which Donetsk Oblast is expected to be taken, with June 1 as deadline for Luhansk Oblast. Seems plausible enough, although perhaps a little optimistic.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3633

with international observers present.

not gonna happen. western world will not allow observers to join .western observers would mean confirmation of results by western world.
remember mateusz piskorski in poland?he got jailed for 3 years without charges pressed for taking part in crimea referendum

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3634

it says that the date is merely the date by which Donetsk Oblast is expected to be taken

It says that the "military operation" is supposed to end on that date ('"Operacja wojskowa" ma zakończyć się 1 lipca'). So, the "military operation" will end but the war will continue? That's a bit confusing. :-/

amiga500
31 May 2022  #3635

This channel translates Oleksiy/Aleksey Arestovych (Ukr Military Inteligence) detailed and in depth war updates into english. He always has a few gems that are not reported by the media.

youtube.com/watch?v=GlJFCPnPInM

Twitter Summaries here twitter.com/savaadaak/status/1531368693279735809

Druzhkika and Donetsk specifically. I have been to Crimea

An interesting place to sell sports equipment, esp with western sanctions, are you an American intelligence asset by any chance? ;) joke

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3636

He always has a few gems

one of hes gem was praising islamic state soldiers,and zerg tactics . he should go back to hes bunker and play video games,not playing napoleon

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3637

@Bobko

Oh... I see... I might have misread that: maybe they didn't mean the "special operation" but only the "military operation" of taking entire Donbas oblast. Russians don't use the word "war" so I thought that they meant the war by "military (special?) operation".

Bloody idiotic terminology... the guy who invented this "operation" word-game should be flogged.

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3638

@amiga500

He's not UKR military intelligence, but an adviser to the President with mainly a PR function. He's been appearing on 2-3 shows a day for the past 90 days, and was on the screens a lot before as well.

He claims he worked in the Ukrainian GRU in the 1990s but nobody can confirm this. He also claims that he's been on 30+ recon/combat missions during the first phase of this conflict, including a mission where he was the only person to survive an explosion. This has also not been verified, and questioned by many professional military persons.

What is confirmed about him is that he had a struggling theatre career, some commercials, and some cameos in several Zelensky produced films. Afterwards, he found himself as a "life coach", whatever the fu*k that is. He has an opinion on everything, from extraterrestrials to lost ancient civilizations and the ideas of Carl Jung.

Many Ukrainians have become disillusioned with him, after lapping up his BS for the first three months. So much so, that he's even changed his tack a bit, and talks a lot more about problems now.

Bratwurst Boy
31 May 2022  #3639

It says that the "military operation" is supposed to end on that date

Wow.....if true.....wow!

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3640

Russians don't use the word "war"

Bloody idiotic terminology...

They learned that trick from the masters in linguistic bullshitology, the US - the inventor of "police action".

amiga500
31 May 2022  #3641

He has an opinion on everything,

he predicted the orc invasion perfectly in detail in 2019, as i have already posted.
youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

full video full of gems as well
youtube.com/watch?v=1xNHmHpERH8&t=2s

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3642

the US - the inventor of "police action".

and humanitarian bombings.

Bratwurst Boy
31 May 2022  #3643

....curious....always so quick to point out that the mean NATO/US did the same....why not go the whole nine yard and admit yes, it's ****** behavior....now WE behave that way....means WE behave ******?

Where is the consequence from all that whataboutism?

jon357
31 May 2022  #3644

He's not UKR military intelligence, but an adviser to the President

He's been right on everything so far..

mafketis
31 May 2022  #3645

Strong ruble for the win! Soviet economics ruuuules!!!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=7qom9Xhs-Q4

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3646

Where is the consequence from all that whataboutism?

Whataboutism is about referring to the standard set by the enemy and smilingly accepted by the adoring moronic masses. Google "goose and gander".

and humanitarian bombings.

You forgot to add "...for democracy"

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3647

now WE behave that way

one could argue with legitimate argument, that Russia merely response to behavior of nato/us
therefore its not equal. if us/nato didnt behave like cowboys in the past decades,there would be no ""same behavior" by russia

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3648

He's been right on everything so far..

Mhmm. Especially how in March he predicted the war would end in April with a Ukrainian victory. Then how he predicted in April that the war would end in May with a Ukrainian victory.

Here's link to March article: vikna.tv/ru/istorii/interviu/kogda-zakonchitsya-vojna-prognozy-alekseya-arestovicha-v-intervyu-s-gordonom/

The only factor that could delay the end of the war, this genius of strategy said, was that it was unclear whether or not Russia would be able raise an additional 10-15,000 reservists. If they did, it would take a maximum of 1-2 additional weeks to grind through that number. Lol.

Now he's saying it's highly likely Russians will do a Kiev Offensive 2.0. In my book, these are not great powers of prediction. Oh well.

mafketis
31 May 2022  #3649

one could argue with legitimate argument, that Russia merely response to behavior of nato/us

Like children! Russians are overgrown children with no internal moral compass, they simply ape behavior they see their betters performing...

Interesting approach...

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3650

@mafketis

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3651

Quoting the title:

Poland halts free fuel supplies to Ukraine

and comments:

Otreebore
Poland is waking up, better late than never.

lanefdesfous
End of the love story?

I wouldn't call fvcking up Poland and Poles a love story.

Goddo
Free Fuel? Are these Poles stupid or what?

Yes, Poland is that stupid.

FelixTCat
More than likely it was "Poland stops supplying gas to Ukraine when Germany refused to pay for it".

How is "get lost" in German?

Bloodclot
even poland is getting fed up with supplying all their tanks all their oil... all their unconditional love... for free

Because even Poland knows this war will end soon and badly for Zhole and that pouring more money into that bottomless rathole is stupid.

mafketis
31 May 2022  #3652

@Bobko

No. I free admit that the US often does terrible things and i don't support it. I was against the first Gulf war and spoke out against it frequently. I was against going into Afghanistan and Iraq...

The difference is I can openly oppose the US government (even during military 'operations' and not worry about being arrested).

You're forced to support the mass killing of civilians in Mariupol and Bucha (or forced to pretend you support it...).

Hasn't Russia killed enough Ukrainian civilians to satisfy your bloodlust (at least for a little while)?

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3653

The more I read about how Germany navigates this bs, the more I respect that country. Be proud and never, ever apologize for Germany first and everybody else GFY attitude - the first requirement to being a patriot. "Everybody" includes the US and Poland.

If that does not make me objective, nothing ever will.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3654

in portugal,they started embracing ukraine culture
twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1531634408842792960
and kopernik was a woman by the way

Cojestdocholery
31 May 2022  #3655

one could argue

One could argue anything, about lizard people running Russia for example. It stand to logic that would explain their allien mindset.
What it is means- 'argue with legitimate argument'? Do you mean there are arguments that are not accepatable by a law? What law that would be? What country law you have in mind?

Do you wanted to say a valid argument? BS, you are not going to deciside if your 'arguments' are valid or not.
There is realy something wrong with you and that is a one valid argument based on my astute observation skills. lol!

Do

So what? I mean so what? lol!
It has nothing to do with anything has not?
By the way can't you find what Navalny says about that Russian Stupid Moronic Operation?

Whataboutism is about referring

No is about diverting attention from one actions by moronic - hey isn't that true that you are lynching ******?
Which could be a valid point if not for a fact that a person saying that has just killed whole family and is in a process of raping a newborn baby.

In that context you don't argue with that person but you put a bullet into his head, unless you are a cowardly moron.

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3656

By the way can't you find what Navalny says about that Russian Stupid Moronic Operation?

I see you keep asking about this. I got curious myself. Here's what he said during sentencing last week (where he got nine years):

«Вы хотите остановить прогресс? Вы можете сломать много судеб, но потерпите поражение и здесь, и в тупой войне, которую ведете. Я, безусловно, готов сидеть в тюрьме, чтобы сказать всем о том, что погибают люди».

"Do you want to stop progress? You can break many lives, but you will face defeat here in the courtroom, as well as in this stupid war, that you are prosecuting. For myself, undoubtedly I am prepared to sit in jail, in order to tell everybody that people are dying."

So there. That's what Navalny said. Are you happy?

P.S. From myself, I will say that this Navalny is one tough cookie.

Velund
31 May 2022  #3657

Meanwhile, in the real world...

Verkhovna Rada dismissed Lyudmila Denisova as human rights ombudsman - for fakes and ineffectiveness

"The incomprehensible concentration of the ombudsman's media work on numerous details of 'unnatural sexual crimes,' which she could not confirm with evidence, has only harmed Ukraine," said Pavel Frolov, an MP from "Servants of the People", in a statement.

Denisova repeatedly accused the RF Armed Forces of the most bizarre sexual crimes, without proving it with anything. In parallel, she failed to perform her direct duties: organizing the humanitarian corridors and the exchange of prisoners. And most of the time she was in "Vienna, Warsaw and other Western Europe".


So, looks like that instead of weird sexual fantasies of Denisova, you will have to adapt to something new. I'm afraid to even imagine what it will be. Maybe mighty orcish mediums able to directly control the sphincters in the bodies of heroic Ukrainian fighters... Or unlicensed miniature copies of Batman, stealing drugs from fighters (just try to fight against orcs without dope)...

amiga500
31 May 2022  #3658

HAHA, Straight from the Orcs mouths...
Two high-ranking Russian military officers have been caught ****-talking Kremlin leadership in unimaginably colorful language. The two colonels blast the defense minister and lash out at that "************" Vladimir Putin for his poor strategy in Ukraine, according to a leaked recording of a phone conversation.

"There are horrible losses of our guys, ****. And you know, I am familiar with military history a bit, and I compare this to the ******* Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-1940. It's ******* one and the same," said Vlasov, referring to a war in which the Soviets are estimated to have lost 126,875 troops.

"Shoigu has assembled all these ****** up [Emergency Situations] guys... if we have head of inspection Colonel-General [Pavel] Plat, ****, he's never even served in the army..." Vlasov said.

"They've brought forth a whole stellar cast of bootlickers. That [Alexander} Dvornikov is a legend of fuckery...

thedailybeast.com/top-russian-military-brass-caught-venting-youre-f*cked-putinmotherfucker?ref=home

Korvinus
31 May 2022  #3659

Russian authorities will subsidize a video game about the fight against Poles, Inspired by Ghost of Tsushima

gamingleaksandrumours.com/russian-authorities-will-subsidize-a-video-game-about-the-fight-against-poles/

Quality RPG set in the Time of Troubles will be unrivaled success . But we need CD Project to make it

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3660

@Velund

This is a funny story indeed. Before the Rada started the process to sack her, there was a letter from more than 20 journalists calling for her resignation, because of all the unverified baby rape stories that they had to republish on pure faith in official sources and for which their reputation consequently suffered.

She did a good job, still. PF is still discussing raped babies.

Here's link for people that can speak Elvish or use Google Translate:

life.pravda.com.ua/society/2022/05/25/248800/


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