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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



gregy741
31 May 2022  #3661

Lyudmila Denisova as human rights ombudsman - for fakes and ineffectiveness

she was absolutely awful. crazy propaganda garbage. her and lapatina and nexta
most polish news about "russian crimes"on wp.pl and interia onet came from her twitter
shes beloved here by "true poles"

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3662

I will say that this Navalny is one tough cookie.

A brave man. You keep men like that in jail and put slimy a*ss-licking vermin in high positions. The worst HR policy ever.

lash out at that "************" Vladimir Putin for his poor strategy in Ukraine

I read that article - basically they called Putin a stupid c*nt. The only question that remains now is will they be persecuted for:

a) insulting the head of the state
or
b) violation of state secret

:)

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3663

have been caught ****-talking Kremlin leadership in unimaginably colorful language

Funny you did not post the rest of the transcript. They blame Putin, largely for this strategy of minimizing civilian losses, which hobbles the military in doing its job. They want strikes on the Rada, the Presidential Administration office, and all other Ukrainian decision-making centers. In other words, these two malcontents - are arguing for a war more brutal than what has been happening so far.

jon357
31 May 2022  #3664

They blame Putin

He did after all illegally invade a neighbouring country.

and I compare this to the ******* Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-1940. It's ******* one and the same,"

That's absolutely accurate.

Great that the orcs' conversations are being monitored and even better that the information is being put in the public domain. I suspect far more is being tapped or leaked by insiders and is still secret.

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3665

He did after all illegally invade a neighbouring country.

That is so awful!

He should learn from the US and NATO how to invade legally. They are so good at it...

amiga500
31 May 2022  #3666

straight from the orcs mouth Part II regarding orc mutiny against General Valery Solodchuk


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Bobko
31 May 2022  #3667

You keep men like that in jail

Again, Kania, you show your abysmal lack of knowledge about Russia. We are merely letting him marinate and ferment until he can be the best Navalny he can be.

As Zhirinovsky once said - a happy and content person, or one with a normal sexual orientation will not produce great work. That is why we have in Russia a good tradition of maturing talent. Dostoyevsky is not Dostoyevsky without the exiles and mock executions in Turkestan. Solzhenitsyn is not Solzhenitsyn without a nice vacation in Gulag. You don't have a Lenin, if you don't hang his brother first. You don't have an Akhmatova, if you don't take her son. You don't get a Putin if you don't have a lonely boy living in a communal apartment with rats.

Suffering is the foundry in which the character of man is forged, and nobody respects suffering more than Russians. So don't worry. Navalny just needs some time to think about life before he is ready for the next stage.

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3668

PF is still discussing raped babies.

Well, if only a small fraction of what was being reported is true, then it's beyond words. And it's not only this Denisova woman; there were reports from many sources, and one Alexei Bychkov - a heroic soldier of Russian Federation - even posted a video of himself raping a toddler.

I know it's difficult to accept. If Polish soldiers did anything like that, I would also probably try to dismiss the stories as false and deny them, but what are the chances, statistically, that all those reports of child-rape were false? There's just too many of them.

Suffering is the foundry in which the character of man is forged

OK, so you have been trying to turn Ukrainians into strong-willed men of iron character for the last three months. :)

amiga500
31 May 2022  #3669

Quality RPG set in the Time of Troubles will be unrivaled success . But we need CD Project to make it

We already have Daniel Vavra and Warhorse studios who made the brilliant Kingdom Come Deliverance in Prague. Sequel should be great. CD Project went too corporate and greedy.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3670

reported is true, then it's beyond words.

yea.. have you noticed how on wp.pl , every day there is "story" about Russian soldiers conversation being "intercepted"
and all garbage "confirming" russian crimes and western narrative?
now narrative is russians want to kill generals haha pay attention and you will see
before russians stealing goods, or raping women/ all "confirmed" by intercepting .their conversations.
all garbage suck from dirty finger

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3671

all garbage suck from dirty finger

Well, Grisha, when it comes to child rape then this is one thing that I hope you are right about. I would be absolutely delighted if all those rape stories turned out to have been false. And I mean it.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3672

Well, Grisha, when it comes to child rape

there we go.. i got one from today. every day one intercepted truth
o2.pl/informacje/rosyjscy-dowodcy-nie-przebieraja-w-slowach-tak-mowia-o-putinie-i-szojgu-6774661612456544a
this is so fki hilarious that is hard to believe people buying this stuff

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3673

before russians stealing goods, or raping women/

This war is truly amazing. "War crimes" are 100% on one side and so are losses. The Vatican will have its hands full selecting saints.

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3674

that is hard to believe people buying this stuff

What's so difficult to believe about officers insulting high-command and politicians who sent them to war? Normal thing.

@Bobko

"Dostoyevsky is not Dostoyevsky without the exiles and mock executions in Turkestan. Solzhenitsyn is not Solzhenitsyn without a nice vacation in Gulag. You don't have a Lenin, if you don't hang his brother first. You don't have an Akhmatova, if you don't take her son. You don't get a Putin if you don't have a lonely boy living in a communal apartment with rats."

Heh :)

This bit is actually quite interesting and well written. If you ever write a book about Russia, I will definitely read it. This much I can do, in the spirit of PF II Accords. :)

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3675

And it's not only this Denisova woman; there were reports from many sources

Yes, I remember reading an interview with a Pole who was driving into Ukraine with humanitarian help. He was in Bucha, Irpin, etc. and local people were telling him about the rapes. One older lady told him about what happened to her neighbours, I think - Russian soldiers murdered a mother and raped her 16-years-old daughter. The girl went back home and killed herself.

Generally, you can often find out about stuff that media don't report about from reading posts on Facebook or watching videos of private people - Poles who are driving into Ukraine with humanitarian help. They even go where humanitarian organisations aren't going and no aid seems to be reaching - to places that Russians are shelling. That's were usually food is most needed.

PolAmKrakow
31 May 2022  #3676

@Novichok
I doubt war crimes are one sided. I am sure some Ukraine soldiers are whacking some Russians just because they have an opportunity. They should be charged for this crime as well. But they are not raping Russian women and children. Russians are raping, and they have had this modus operandi for centuries. They are animals, so if the Ukraine soldiers are taking an opportunity to get even by killing a few that they probably shouldn't in a certain situations, its a part of every war.

Unfortunately none of you trolls are on the ground taking fire. So many sitting in the west sucking on the breast of plenty complaining about the injustice to Russia and Russians. You are all traitors and should be deported straight to the front lines.

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3677

Yes, I remember reading an interview with a Pole who was driving into Ukraine with humanitarian help.

That's what I mean. Tons of stuff like that from various sources. What are the chances that all (or even most) of these stories are false?

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3678

What's so difficult to believe about officers insulting high-command and politicians who sent them to war?

its not that, its nothing in story itself. its just the way how media propaganda present info. especially polish media
basically for every claim they have , name it- ""russian crimes" or whatever narrative they trying to push ,there is "intercepted conversation"
"intercepted conversation" is beloved one of ""tool" in polish media,cus such thing is hard to debunk for a reader.
and they so systematic and always align with current media narrative

Bobko
31 May 2022  #3679

If you ever write a book about Russia, I will definitely read it.

If you ever write a book about your correspondence with your penpal and a Pole's vision of Russia I will also read it. In spirit of the Accords. ;)

Dirk diggler
31 May 2022  #3680

Where are the regular AFU formations

They're "evacuated" remember?

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3681

azov dropped nazi symbols from emblem but there is a problem

twitter.com/kldpaf/status/1525752657477898247

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3682

in portugal,they started embracing ukraine culture

This is a poster - it looks like the Ukrainian ballet group will perform, you silly :)

Grand Kiev Ballet will perform in my city in summer, so they're probably touring Europe:

eventim.pl/event/grand-kiev-ballet-jezioro-labedzie-kieleckie-centrum-kultury-15123505/

dont worry Paulina

I'd rather not to have to worry about people under the Russian occupation. My life would be much more pleasant then. But as GefreiterKania wrote - info about rapes and other war crimes wasn't just coming from Denisova or Lapatina.

Korvinus
31 May 2022  #3683

especially polish media

I agree, there is lots of anti-Russian sentiment but is it the medias fault or is that Putin lied and then invaded a sovereign country and blamed the invasion on the famous 3 lies or as I say the "the 3 N" which are just exaggerations around NATO, nukes and Neo-Nazis

Then to make the invasion worse, as if it could be worse, we have seen the Russian military strategy which includes mass rape, execution of thousands of civilians and the one thing the Ruskies are definitely good at which is razing cities to the ground from miles away using missiles and artillery. And of course then their are the thousands of war crimes many Russian soldiers have committed

So I don't think you need the media to create much anti-Russian sentiment when Putins War is the poster child for it ?

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3684

I agree, there is lots of anti-Russian sentiment but is it the medias fault

yea,but whats the point constant mass lying to entire population
i just dont see,how such lies would change course of war or lets say stop"russian crimes" i dont understand the point.
its a double edge sword,polish people flooding twitter with this stuff,and people block them saying they are crazy.
you breeding entire population of haters
do you know there was a pool in twitter :what nation should be invaded next by russia" like 80%% said Poland.
ppl starting to hate poles for our hypocrisy,lies warmongering ect,
what we want to accomplish by this?

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3685

ok ok i misinterpreted i admit-only partly ,cus poster is misleading population

I don't see how it's "misleading population" - you'd have to be a total ignoramus in order not to know that The Swan Lake is a Russian ballet.

Btw, you and other Putinists could read comments in the links you post from time to time at least, because your claims are often debunked in the comment section *sigh* (so I wouldn't waste my time on debunking them):

"The poster design it's pro-ukraine. But the "ukraine classic ballet" doesn't refer the the Tchaikovsky's ballet. It's the name of the company (formed by ukrainian dancers that moved to outside ukraine after the begining of the war). They have been performing in lot of countries"

"Soft Light
I'm portuguese and that's correct: the performance it's scheduled for next july and will be performed by the Ukrainian Classical Ballet. In the brochure Tchaikovsky is duly mentioned.I don't see any misrepresentation of the Russian culture. Apparently, the ukranians aknowledge it"

Cojestdocholery
31 May 2022  #3686

So there. That's what Navalny said. Are you happy?

Kind off, he didn't really say anything. I wanted to know his more detailed views on this and other. You know from a point of view someone who thinks that Putin and his crew are corrupted stupid weaklings who don't know how to conduct Russia policy.

I was expecting more - you morons you didn't need that war to get Ukrainie, but whence you stared it you are unable to win it due to you being stupid, inept and corrupt morons.

A brave man. You keep men like that in jail and put slimy a*ss-licking vermin in high positions. The worst HR policy ever.

Come on, that is a briliant policy. For Poland. Could you immagine what acuall not corrup, intelligent and efficent leadership of Russia mean for Poland. No thank you.

Our agent V Putin is doing his job quite well.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3687

@Paulina
do you know why in every polish main media sites/info portals ,comments were disabled in articles regarding ukra war in the same day,and remain disabled?any idea?

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3688

@gregy741, earlier under every article on wp.pl regarding the war, Ukrainian refugees, etc. there was an info that comments have been disabled due to trolls spreading disinformation and fake news in the comment section. I'm guessing the reason was the same for other news sites.

But darling, this world is cruel.

Let us change the world then...

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3689

spreading disinformation and fake news in the comment section.

are you really this blind?

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3690

@gregy741, what do you mean?


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