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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Novichok
31 May 2022  #3691

trolls spreading disinformation and fake news in the comment section.

Proving once again that Poland is still a communist country that dishonestly calls itself "democratic" or some other such name to fool the stupid.
BTW, they are not leaving. Ever. And will destroy you economically and ethnically...hahahahahaha...

Only rule of big over the small.

Crow, how dare you...They still believe in brotherly love and the goodness of men.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3692

@gregy741, what do you mean?

dunno. or maybe to remove people who say"hold on ,wait a sec"
comments sections are the most valuable source of info. -always!

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3693

@gregy741, you asked, so I answered.

Whether it was a good idea to turn off the comment sections - I don't know. I personally missed it - especially at the beginning. I can only imagine all those Polish comments about Putin, Russian army, etc. :))) Comment sections can be fun ;)

On the other hand, Russian trolls spreading disinformation and fake news is a real phenomenon.

comments sections are the most valuable source of info. -always!

And of disinformation and fake news :)
You can always go to the Polish side of Facebook then - plenty of comments there :) I'm guessing it's the same on Twitter.

I wouldn't put too much weight to comment sections under Polish articles though, to be honest... I rarely read them, usually just scan a few first comments. Sometimes I read more if I'm interested in some issue, but who would read all those hundreds or thousands of comments... Especially that people often write there to vent, it seems

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3694

Especially that people often write there to vent, it seems.

i can assure you,that people would debunk 99% of garbage wp.pl spawn in matter of seconds.and they know this.
now its safe pushing ghost of kiev stories. and how nationwide and coordinated that was.all them in one day . scary ****. one would wonder all this stuff belong to one person. corposhaite

jon357
31 May 2022  #3695

comment sections

The Daily Telegraph BTL comments section is quite good about the russian invasion of Ukraine. It's subscribers only so that helps to keep the quality. There are a few fairly obvious paid Kremlin trolls there however they're called out. There are also a few airchair generals but there are ex (and perhaps not so ex) senior military there who know what they're talking about. A few very senior politicians too, often using a near pseudonym.

Meanwhile, there's street bu street fighting in Severodonetsk. As long as it bogs the orcs down, it is worth it.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3696

The Daily Telegraph BTL comments section is quite good

do you know nina jankowicz is pushing idea that comments and opinions should be also edited by "fact checkers" not delated or banned.- but edited,corrected by someone

basically the every info site should have right to edit comments

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3697

i can assure you,that people would debunk 99% of garbage wp.pl spawn in matter of seconds.

What people? Russian trolls? Konfederacja voters? :) From what I've noticed those are the only people in the Polish part of Facebook who support Russian version of events or are, at least, anti-Ukrainian.

now its safe pushing ghost of kiev stories.

Like this one?: lol

rmf24.pl/raporty/raport-wojna-z-rosja/news-duch-kijowa-bohater-czy-miejska-legenda,nId,5884226

I think you underestimate Polish media.

Crnogorac3
31 May 2022  #3698

A wonderful Russian peacemaker next to the torn flag of the former Bolshevik assembled construct of 'Ukraine'

t.me/intelslava/30449

mafketis
31 May 2022  #3699

A wonderful Russian peacemaker

yes.... quite...

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1531630071664058368

jon357
31 May 2022  #3700

@gregy741
The DT delete if they break their community standards (like here) and do occasionally remove the more obvious St Petersburg troll factory staff.

The tsunami of orc propaganda is shocking at the moment. Fortunately it isn't very effective; in fact some is extremely crass. It's quite obvious if you look at certain sites that they have a daily troll script. You can learn a lot about orcland by analysing that.

They often recommend a russian-American orc propagandist called Eva Bartlett/Baranieva, an American one called Lancaster and a British blogger called Phillips who all shill for the orcs.

Korvinus
31 May 2022  #3701

lying to entire population

Lying? WTF?
Dammit for the Russian apologists, Russians did invaded Ukraine without provocation and committed countless war crimes. This are indisputable facts.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3702

I think you underestimate Polish media.

and you just didnt understand what i was trying to tell you.and posted article that only prove am right.
just some quotes from it
"Okazało się jednak, że wideo pochodzi...z gry komputerowej DCS,""- nie okazalo sie,tylko ludzie zwrocili uwage.-
"Internauci zwrócili uwagę, że zamieszczenie nieprawdziwego zdjęcia Ducha Kijowa" - but not allowed on polish sites .oh no

GefreiterKania
31 May 2022  #3703

Slovak president, Zuzana Čaputová, visited Ukraine. She thanked Ukrainians for heroically defending Europe from Russia, compared Putin to Hitler and promised to deliver Zuzana Howitzers to Ukraine.

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-zuzana-czaputova-wysyla-ukrainie-haubice-zuzana,nId,6062529

Zuzana is huge and equipped with some heavy stuff...



EDIT: Oh, sorry - wrong picture. I meant this one...

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/155_mm_SpGH_Zuzana

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3704

a daily troll script.

I noticed some patterns in Facebook comments myself... For example, whenever someone was visiting Kyiv after the Russians withdrew from besieging the capital, whether it was some president or Angelina Jolie, such comments would appear: "What kind of war is that if people just drop by there like that? I have a feeling they're lying to us and it's some fake "war"!" Maybe such moronic comments wouldn't be that surprising in case of people from other parts of the world, who aren't getting too much information, but I've seen such comments also written by Poles. And you can't possibly live in Poland and not know that Kyiv isn't besieged anymore o_O Bizarre...

and you just didnt understand what i was trying to tell you.and posted article that only prove am right.

I did understand and by posting that article I proved you wrong :)

nie okazalo sie,tylko ludzie zwrocili uwage.-

Firstly, how do you know who did that?
Secondly - what does it matter? lol Well, yeah, it is possible that, for example, those were gamers who played that game that noticed it. Are you a gamer and you took it personally or sth? ;D

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3705

Firstly, how do you know who did that?

ppl in twitter,and other places where comments are allowed
so you see how it works.
media didnt retract from kiev ghost story and admitted it was fake,but were forced by readers.who started pointing inaccuracy ,such as cgi images ect.

it become so obvious and ridiculous ,they couldn't hold to it anymore
see power of readers knowledge and brains vs media liers
but if you disable comments... hmmmmm

jon357
31 May 2022  #3706

written by Poles

Perhaps russians pretending to be Poles or traitors for the orcs.

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3707

ppl in twitter,and other places where comments are allowed
so you see how it works.

Maybe it does work in places like Twitter and Facebook (social media) where you can comment directly on some profiles of journalists. But I really doubt that journalists are reading all those comments under articles on news sites... There's just too much crap over there.

I guess you can always write an e-mail to a newspaper to inform about such stuff.

media didnt retract from kiev ghost story and admitted it was fake,but were forced by readers.

How do you know they had to be "forced" and not simply informed?

Btw, I personally don't advocate disabling comments under articles. I just think you overestimate their impact a bit.

Perhaps russians pretending to be Poles or traitors for the orcs.

Yeah, probably...

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3708

Russians did invaded Ukraine without provocation and committed countless war crimes. This are indisputable facts.

Yes, it's disputable.
Russia said that Ukraine must be neutral. Ukraine behaved like it didn't get the memo. Hence, Russian tanks and artillery in Ukraine.
Case closed.

cms neuf
31 May 2022  #3709

Russia isn't in a position to send "the memo" to independent countries

If a drunk rapist nazi put a memo on my desk I would ignore it

Just like when the super in your crappy apartment block left you a scrawled note not to leave your empty vodka bottles in the communal cucumber garden

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3710

yes.... quite...

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1531630071664058368

OMG... You know what, gregy741, you're right - comments are pure gold... xD

lmao

Thanks for the laugh, maf ;D

Korvinus
31 May 2022  #3711

Russia said that Ukraine must be neutral.

On what grounds?

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3712

OMG... You know what, gregy741, you're right - comments are pure gold... xD

hahahahahahaha told you

mafketis
31 May 2022  #3713

Truth and reality... on some of the more frequent Russian lies about Ukraine....

twitter.com/DietmarPichler1/status/1531707255778942977

Paulina
31 May 2022  #3714

Ukraine behaved like it didn't get the memo. Hence, Russian tanks and artillery in Ukraine.

That's disputable.

hehe

Korvinus
31 May 2022  #3715

And despite receiving dozens of millions of refugees :

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1527257234941652992

Poland is becoming richer while ru, poorer and weaker.

gregy741
31 May 2022  #3716

ukra Nazi literally shites his pants when Russian troops start checking his tattoos.. absolutely hilarious
twitter.com/Youblacksoul/status/1531709284685324288
job bladz gawno
patamu szhto abasral
hahahaha

Korvinus
31 May 2022  #3717

Polish MOD just announced co-operation with Hyundai Rotem to mass produce K2PL in Poland

twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1531594614544732160

PT-91 will probably go to Ukr, since the plan is to get rid off T-72 variants, now that we got rid of every vanilla T-72s that could potentially be upgraded to PT-91 standard.

And considering that, for some reason, procuring 125mm ammo was always a giant fu*cking headache for Polish Army, getting rid of this type of tank right now might turn out to be "killing two birds with one stone" type of situation.

IIRC we'll also retire Leopards when we have a big enough number of K2 tanks. Otherwise Polish army will have to deal with 4 kinds of tanks in the future: Abrams, Leopards, K2 and PT-91, which is ridiculous.

Novichok
31 May 2022  #3718

And despite receiving dozens of millions of refugees...

...Poland is becoming richer

BS. If that's the case, invite all of them.
You know, of course, that what you said is stupid but it felt so good, didn't it?

Novichok
1 Jun 2022  #3719

Russia isn't in a position to send "the memo" to independent countries

Yes, it is. They did. Ukraine and the master manipulator ignored it and that's why Ukraine is in ruins and Poland has 4 million new residents.

I hope you will continue enjoying their company since they are not about to leave - if ever. Actually, they will stay and multiply forever.

Remember how you didn't want to help Merkel with her foreign visitors? Now it's your turn to get the finger from Germany. I hope they will do just that.

Velund
1 Jun 2022  #3720

Yes, it is. They did.

From what I see here, it was only preliminary caresses...


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