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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



gregy741
3 Jun 2022  #4021

We shouldn't be humiliating Russia,

he kinda means all those one sided narrative of western world.not necessarily supported by facts.aimed to demonize not to seek diplomacy
it cripple or close doors for diplomacy. and its not helping.gotta look objectively at situation and find a way out of this mess.

Paulina
3 Jun 2022  #4022

@gregy741, you don't know what Macron means. I don't know what he means exactly either. So stop inventing stuff.

Novichok
3 Jun 2022  #4023

and is destroying Ukraine and killing its people.

Nobody kills people with their hands up. Now, when your hands are on an AK, well...then you die. Drop it, and you won't. See how simple life can be if you (editorial) are not a moron or a hero, which is the same thing?

You see, only a moron ignores what happened in Crimea but decides to fight for "freedom" without a damn clue what it is. That's why I have been asking, over and over, what is Z-P and nobody here wants to touch it. Instead of specifics, I get that typical idiotic Polish poetry. Za ojczyzne being one example. Or because it's the right thing to do. If you (editorial) are THAT stupid...adios.

My only problem with the dead Ukrainian heroes is that I am paying for the stuff they beg for and "America" (aka US taxpayers) delivers.

Paulina
3 Jun 2022  #4024

@Novichok, if you don't know what "freedom" is then ask about it the Ukrainians who are fighting for it.

Nobody kills people with their hands up.

War criminals do. See: Bucha, Irpin, etc.

My only problem with the dead Ukrainian heroes is that I am paying for the stuff they beg for and "America" (aka US taxpayers) delivers.

That's because you're a sociopath. This is why there isn't much point for normal people to discuss with you. It's a waste of time, because you won't understand anything anyway.

gregy741
3 Jun 2022  #4025

so now kuleba admits ,that the issue of inability to export grain by black sea port of odessa ,was ukra planted mines in the port ,not Russia blockade.

twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1532766124894568455

Novichok
3 Jun 2022  #4026

,was ukra mines in the port ,not Russia blockade.

I think I was first reporting this little factoid here but I still love you for that post. The problem here is that if Z himself, on camera, admitted what you just posted, PF Russia haters will mumble something about photoshopping or that he had one too many.

Paulina
3 Jun 2022  #4027

kuleba admits ,that the issue of inability to export grain by black sea port of odessa,was ukra planted mines in the port ,not Russia blockade.

Russia was giving the impression that it's up to them: "Lift the sanctions and we'll unblock the ports":

euronews.com/2022/05/26/russia-offers-to-lift-port-blockade-in-exchange-for-sanctions-relief

So I guess it was both.

Novichok
3 Jun 2022  #4028

So I guess it was both.

Us were first and before Rs.

gregy741
3 Jun 2022  #4029

I don't need any Lapatina or Denisova to hate Russia

but she needs you.
miss denisova bough herself 9 mil swiss frank worth villa in Switzerland.and she need Bentley as well . so dont give up on her just yet.

twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1532858372608909312
twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1532858361942769667

Przelotnyptak1
4 Jun 2022  #4030

My only problem with the dead Ukrainian heroes is that I am paying for the stuff they beg for and "America"

I am sure the Ukrainians would gladly return your tax contribution of one cent or less, for one moment of silence, escape from soviet propaganda. Highly regarded association of political commentators,

expert diplomats trying to save humanity from the brink of extinction,
famous bloviators, P.F. members, would appreciate less drama and more reality because as a retiary, you probably do not pay federal taxes, so your tax contribution is a fat zero.

Novichok
4 Jun 2022  #4031

I will make my post mercifully short.

Z-P=0 and dying for a principle is moronic.

PolAmKrakow
4 Jun 2022  #4032

marketwatch.com/story/companies-that-exited-russia-after-its-invasion-of-ukraine-are-being-rewarded-with-outsize-stock-market-returns-and-those-that-stayed-are-not-11654258241?siteid=yhoof2

So at home, it seems leaving Russia has been decidedly smart for business.

The absolute stupidity in posts over the last 12 hours is unbelievable. Take these arguments into a courtroom, and there is no jury in the world that would reach a verdict for Russia outside of one in Russia where they would fear for their lives to give a verdict that displeased Putin.

Novichok
4 Jun 2022  #4033

Juries in Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan would be back with their verdicts just as fast.

gregy741
4 Jun 2022  #4034

outside of one in Russia where they would fear for their lives

really. wasn't US threatening judges of International Criminal Court and their families with death,over attempt too prosecute US war crimes? remind me of this story. forgot details.

Novichok
4 Jun 2022  #4035

Hey, Russia haters, a warning...This video is about the Red Army in Berlin. Yeah, the same army that liberated Poland.
youtu.be/zmVJTWMIlQg

PolAmKrakow
4 Jun 2022  #4036

@gregy741
Remind me again what makes you Polish? Oh yeah, youre not, once a liar always a liar. But thanks for responding.

@Novichok
I agree with you that those juries would come back that way. Look at the leadership in those countries. Everyone fearing for their lives. And while the Soviets did free Poland, they then enslaved Poland for 50 years or so. They are no better than the Nazi's and in fact did more damage to regular Poles than the Nazi's in my opinion. Russia is and has been a backward country since the revolution. Nothing has gone right because of their leaders.

I think Bobko mentioned the rise of China, Taiwan, Japan and others and credits their leaders for it. Those countries have thrived due to favorable trade agreements with the west, specifically the US. More growth by way of stupid decision making by the US over some WW2 guilt with Japan, and the desire for cheap goods while turning a blind eye to other issues in China. American leadership has been that of a pussy for the last 30 years with the exclusion of the events after 9/11.

Poland now, in many respects with their social programs and spending is unfortunately setting themselves up for a debt problem in a few years that young Poles will just say WTF to. All of this said though, Russia and Putin are still an evil and unworthy of leading anyone or any country. The war in Ukraine is illegal and founded on BS. The trolls here trying to justify this war are absolute idiots wasting their time when clearly the vast majority of PF members prefer to live in a democracy, as flawed as they may be. Happy gulag biatches!

Velund
4 Jun 2022  #4037

if you don't know what "freedom" is

Maybe you can tell us, what freedom is, and why Russians cannot fight for it while Ukrainians can? ;) Maybe you even can give us link to seller of some caliper, that by simple measurement can distinguish russian, ukrainian and pole? ;)

Russia was giving the impression that it's up to them: "Lift the sanctions and we'll unblock the ports":

Putin said that the cheapest way would be to transport the remaining Ukrainian fodder wheat through Belarus to Baltic ports. In any case, this wheat will never be used for bread in Africa, it is needed to ensure that pork meat in Europe does not jump to 60+ eur per kilogram after a short and deep price drop caused by the mass slaughter of pigs with nothing to feed them. So there's nothing wrong with Baltic ports, consumers is in the same region. But for this, sanctions should be lifted from Belarus.

As for the Black Sea ports - he said that the corridors will be provided as soon as Ukraine removes sea mines so that ships can pass safely.

Cojestdocholery
4 Jun 2022  #4038

why Russians cannot fight for

Russia can and should fight for it. Take on Moscow and St.Petersburg and all those scummy 'elite' of theirs. Fight for your freedom all you can.

Hey, Russia haters, a warning.

Hey Russian shill, a warning never tell us your real name.

Wow Russian propaganda is working overtime here. The war most be going really bad for them. Maybe they feel first soft touches of sanctions settling in, or both.

gregy741
4 Jun 2022  #4039

word is that only 4 launchers of game changer weapon will be sent to ukraine,
twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1532881649968590848

The war most be going really bad for them

you know what the brutal truth here??
the more Russia is successful in Ukraine the less chances of nuke war. and Poland in on the front line. think about it.
you give ukra real game changer and Russia start loosing,,you better dig yourselve a bunker in warsaw

pawian
4 Jun 2022  #4040

Nobody kills people with their hands up

RuSSists killed and tortured unarmed civilians, including children, in Bucza and other places so your theory is false, unfortunately.

Poland in on the front line

Yes, we know. We have been for centuries. So we are used to it.

think about it.

No, darling, YOU think about it. To influence and possibly change the Polish attitude towards helping Ukraine, you would have to strike us with nukes. Otherwise, forget it. But you know what will happen later.

meat in Europe does not jump to 60+

It can even jump to 100, I don`t care, we will eat less meat, good for health. But this stick has two ends - it means that Europeans will pay more for meat while RuSSists will eat grass and tree bark.

Velund
4 Jun 2022  #4041

Take on Moscow and St.Petersburg

Why not Warsaw and London? And for freedom from WHAT we should fight for in Moscow?

For now, as I can see, there is already more "basic" freedoms like freedom of speech in Russia, compared to Lithuania, for example (will not try to tell about other places, but I lived in Vilnius some time not so long ago, before Coronavirus madness, so looked around).

pawian
4 Jun 2022  #4042

freedom of speech in Russia,

buhahaha
Yes, there is, like in that old communist joke. Talking to a Soviet Russian, an American brags about his freedoms, that he can freely critizise President Reagan and nothing happens. The Russian says there is the same freedom in the USSR - he can also freely abuse President Reagan and nothing happens. hahahahahaha

but I lived in Vilnius

When it belonged to the USSR, in 1980s? hahaha

Velund
4 Jun 2022  #4043

while RuSSists will eat grass and tree bark.

Baboons in the wild usually have higher IQ...

It is hard to imagine that people in leading exporter of wheat will have to eat grass. More likely someone in EU will eat less, if there is any problem with yield, but we will have our slice of bread with slice of pork meat on it (sheep meat will be reserved for muslims). This is not a matter of price, feel free to make porridge from dollars, if you prefer money. ;)

pawian
4 Jun 2022  #4044

It is hard to imagine that people in leading exporter of wheat will have to eat grass.

You will when your government decides to export it to cover the falling losses from oil and gas export. Ha!

PolAmKrakow
4 Jun 2022  #4045

@Velund
You are now Russian retard number one after saying Russians have freedom of speech. That is like saying that slaves in the US had the right to leave the plantation. Of course they did if they wanted to be hunted down, killed or beaten. Same in Russia. That is all you are, a modern day slave to a dictator in a country no one gives a F about other than the fact that it has nukes. If not for that one thing, Russia would disappear from the map, and all Russians and Putin know this.

gregy741
4 Jun 2022  #4046

strike us with nukes. Otherwise, forget it. But you know what will happen later.

i do. i see it now!!!!!!
the whole world will unite to fight Russia under command of macierewwicz!!! and duda!!!
the other option is,Poland allies will do what they did in 1939.
hold on Poland,we are sending you a game changer!!!!
imagine fighting under command of blaszczak .offs
will this nation ever learn

Velund
4 Jun 2022  #4047

when your government decides to export it to cover the falling losses from oil and gas export.

What the reason to sell something for "toxic" currencies? We simply not need so much western currency now, with all that limitations in trade. And it is stupidest way to accumulate any reserves in eur/usd today. As Mishustin said recently, we have more than enough dollars now, and will need even less later, once trade with BRICS countries will be completely moved to national currencies. Other thing was said as well - under no circumstances government will allow to export more food, than is safe for internal food market.

cms neuf
4 Jun 2022  #4048

No food export. Wait whaaaat ? How will I live without my sprats and grey/brown "cheese"

Joker
4 Jun 2022  #4049

No food export. Wait whaaaat ?

And Czerwony Jablosko opening up anytime soon!

PolAmKrakow
4 Jun 2022  #4050

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