Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

They threw everything they've got at it too.

Apparently Pighozin's supposedly feared Wagner Group with their deaths head badges refused point blank to fight when they were ordered to advance into the line of fire. They sent junior orcs in instead.

If they want to kill their whole country's stock of good looking and wholesome 18 to 22 year old men, so be it, however I can think of better uses for them.

IF u wanna look up their telegram channels, feel free, i heard they got massacred in Severodonetsk, thanks to the the Ukri feint and counter smash, just like the Vietnamese VC did. the foreign legion played their part heard a georgian and aussie accent there.


keep your sick thoughts to yourself matey..

The Wagner group are finding it a bit different in the Ukraine - fighting a well disciplined professional army in urban terrain is harder than guarding some food convoy in open desert in Syria. Add to that they are all ripped off their tits on amphetamines and vodka and it's no wonder they are ineffective

Yes. They're used to firing off rockets at tribesmen who haven't got any of their own and hoping they'll flee. Many/most have never been on the battlefield. Those that have been in conflict just shoot unarmed civilians.

Hence them fleeing in Ukraine.

Apparently the russian desertion rate is huge and many more simply refusing to fight or shooting themselves in the foot to avoid russian mobilisation.


Far from sick. Only those uncomfortable with their own desires would find it so. Anyway, all armies have a tradition of it. The Polish and Russian armies are no exception. I won't even mention why Kyiv is a tourist attraction for some...

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I kinda agree, but kinda disagree, let's just say they never fought their own tribe that fighting to the death for their own land.. and yeah for them, different moral story when they face their own slavic tribe, instead of what they percieve as the other, the 'dirty muslim scum', so u are right in a way, the factor of fear is way different.


Oh do tell, i wanna hear this story..

If the only way to improve quality of life in Russia, is to divide national income by a population only half the current size, then... I don't think I want to live in a Russia like that. To me - depopulation is the biggest tragedy and the greatest possible humiliation. You may not believe that there's place for such thinking in an orc brain, but I do think that our best asset is our people.

Regarding the ethnic structure of the overall demographic picture - yes, Russians are still declining as a share of the population. The highest natural growth rates are in the republics of the Caucasus, and among the Northern peoples like the Chukchi (our eskimos). My non-scientific take on this is that these two peoples had enormous drops in population earlier, and this is Mother Nature somehow playing catch up. As far as what Russian-majority regions are still growing organically, it's: Moscow, Crimea (Sevastopol), Krasnodar (Krasnodar; Sochi). However, the drop in the population of Russians cannot be compensated by growth among Chechens, Ingush, and Chukchis. The lion's share of growth comes from immigration.

Before the war, the UN listed Russia as the number 2 emigration destination in the world after the United States. Throughout the 90s and early 2000s this flow was represented by millions of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians fleeing the other post-Soviet states back to Russia to escape ethnic discrimination. Then they were followed by millions upon millions of migrant laborers. Largest among these are Uzbeks, Azeris, Armenians, Tajiks, Kyrgyz, and Georgians. Kazakhs never came in any meaningful numbers because the economic situation there is arguably better than in Russia.

When the stream of former Soviet peoples inevitably dries up, Russia will have to look farther afield for people and this is always fraught with instability. However, Putin says that Russia needs a population of at least 400 million to be able to shape events in the world, and there's no way we get there without letting in some large numbers of Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, etc.

You had your chance with Medvedev, I admit he shouldn't let the Libyian resolution thru, for putin to distrust him. Oh well now u ****** and u will have decades of poverty for the cities and starvation for the provinces.. oh well. boo hoo for the ruskis.

@amiga500

Medvedev was hopelessly in love with America. It was difficult to watch his lapdog behavior. In Russia some of us call him "Dimon iPhone", because the guy cannot live without his Apple gadgets and saying something nice about America in between sentences.

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@bobko
ironic that what u say is he in love with the west as a bad thing, the only realistic hope of keeping up with the technological advancements of china , and yes the west. and setting up technological incubators, and trying to moderise the stagnant russian economy esp in Siberia,

but it's like cutting your own throat that you condemn him for that. Now that hope is gone forever.
Oh u live in USA right?

They're used to 'fighting' untrained, uneducated, ill-fed and poorly armed people from the poorest and hottest parts of the world.. Against the Ukrainian Army they just fled.


That drunken dwarf?

Another day..... another dead Russian general....

Say goodbye and do svidanja to Roman Kutuzov commander of the 5th army, who died like the genocidal dog he was in Donbas

twitter.com/UkrWarReport/status/1533473637981896705

You've gotta think that there are high ranking people in Russia who realize how out of control the country has gotten under the insane leadership of Tsar Vova the first and last and hopefully never again....

wow 28 nanometer, that's only like 10-20 years behind the west, u know we at 5-8nm now? lolzo even the chinese laugh at you for that **** weak ass crap.

Ahahahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahahaha... Oh... my... my coffee - wrong hole....

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Lot of black charred russian and chechen corpses in Severodonetsk right now, like the yanks in vietnam you guys got played so hard in urban warfare.. You can't even take one major city and this one was the easiest, how long before you morons wise up and get rid of Putin?

Yeah, but my warm, friendly filing towards you remains strong, solid as a rock even though you were spotted defending our eastern border, furiously waving

the rainbow flag:::))) But who am I to judge? Patriotism in any form is preferred over treason
Not for one moment did I take his insane anty-polish rants as his true feelings; I wrongly assumed he was tweaking, trying to raise your hackles with outrageous

rhetoric. Once I realized those were his true feelings, the old buddy was no more, even though some of his concerns were legitimate.
What is unexplainable is the source of hatred towards the country of one's birth. Or maybe Rich is hiding the essential facts of his origins?

I have a question for all the fans of Zbigniew Brzezinski here. If Russia without Ukraine is not an Empire, but only a regional power - then what is Russia without Poland and what can it be with Poland? I would think that Russia + Ukraine + Poland means Russia should become some kind of galactic hyperpower, but for some reason this is not how it worked in the past. Yes, Warsaw was the third city in the Empire during its existence. Yes, Polish industry was most developed of any region in the Empire. Yes, Polish scientists had a disproportionate output. But how come it only made us slightly stronger than the British, and probably still weaker than the Americans? Maybe Poland is not so important?

Johnny my friend, the Polish economy is the envy of Europe:::)))

Zbigs Dead. U know that right?


Sounds like a lot of blah blah because you know u made a fatal mistake and are losing a war against what you thought was a minow vassal/colonial state? And they are whooping your ass? Beautiful to see!

Look foward to all those parts of russia , esp siberia breaking away next! Then u will mention Madeleine Albright and her fans and her prescient quotes about russia being broken up into little pieces?

Even Poland can only prop up an otherwise poor country to some degree.

@Tacitus

The answer is that more land is needed.

Three Russians, reminiscing:
youtu.be/WgD57y4Tkng

How much of the world do you want under incompetent, kleptocratic and mafia-like Russian rule?

How would that make the world a better place?

What are some positive things that Russia has to offer the world (and why is it waiting so long to offer them)?

Information for club members only!


Preferably the world. That would be nice. But we will content ourselves with 1914 borders, maybe even sans Finland. They are good people in the end.

I don't recall our army attacking African tribesmen any time recently. Yet russia is doing just that. Massacring civilians too and raping women.


And there will be many many more before they get the message that they have lost.


There's no real reason they should have Siberia. The days of empire are over. For them, anyway...

I don't understand that some people feel the need to talk like that.(like you) There is a war on and I have been there for a second, close to those rusty Russian rockets and it is not that simple as it looks from the distance.

Yes Russian army doesn't live up to the hype but it doesn't mean its hoplessly weak.
Nevertheless Ukrainians are doing well, they need to do better, let hope they have some A in their sleeves.


Why would I be his fan? I think you frame your qestions here wrong.
Do you know anything about geopolitiks, Russian plan and so on? My brother gave me few interesting pointer and can share it with you if you want.


Nothing good. You shouldn't call yourself Russia, in fact you are Muscovities and your land is the GD of Moscow.
Belarus need to get back Smolensk.

Of course. That's why I'm here in the end.

Well, the plan was simple, take Ukrianie and make a puppet state, project your power into Europe, making EE (E Europe) Poland German colonies and to get western technology to make you keep up and be a significtat world power. Along the way push USA from Europe.

Your ores for Germany and EU, techologies into Russia and E Europe down and USA out.
That was a plan. I doubt it would work, you Muscovites are not know for restrain and you would just do somthing stupid to F it up (like annex Baltic states) and who would suffer in the end. Everybody.

The best way for all involved is to stop you now.
Good?

Which would lead very quickly to nuclear war, given that the Baltics, like Poland, are full members of NATO. Even a conventional war against a NATO state would be disastrous for russia, given that they're losing against Ukraine.

A very successful day in Sieverodonetsk. A disastrous day for russia.

As Sweden and Finland will soon be.

Oh come on, he was just a fig leaf for show for the West.


I hope that they're reading your comments in Berlin.


Oh, I do believe it. Who else would you be sending as cannon fodder to fight your wars, if you didn't have all those ethnic republics?

Polish men were being conscripted to the Russian army during the time of partitions. From among 200 000 recruits from Poland that were conscripted before 1855 to the Russian army only 23 000 came back, most of them as invalids or sick due to bad conditions in the Russian army. An irretrievable loss for the population of Poland.

Btw, one lady in this video cracked me up: "We can't allow this sh1t to spread!" ;D:

What countries do Russians want to conquer?:

youtu.be/k6FtYKjK6Jw

Or one guy: "Ask those guys" while pointing in the direction of "Z" and "V" banners...

@Cojestdocholery

Russian-German cooperation is a dream of a millennium. Every single precedent that exists is positive (please don't bring Molotov-Ribbentrop - I mean synergies between economies and peoples). From the time that they gained their name - Nemcy - those that can't speak our language - they have been our most favorite foreigners (I know this is common to us all). A succession of Russian tsars encouraged their immigration, until we had millions of Germans living in Russia, and occupying the highest positions in government. Millions of Russians, to this day, have Volga German blood. When the Baltics were taken over, it was the Germans that were allowed to act as caretakers for centuries over the boisterous local Balts. I don't think war and annexations are necessary, however, for Germans and Russians to work together. Their manufacturing genius and our abundance of resources is enough. Not to say anything of the ideas that could come out of such a cooperation.

@Bobko
russian-German cooperation is only you dream but not my dream. Dream on...