Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

That was a good one, maf,...hahahahahahaha..


Because Russia is doing its best to spare civilians and things it or Russia-friendly Ukraine will need later.

Killing and destroying is easy.

@Dirk diggler
You want to talk about corruption? You better look at your hearo Putin and all the Oligarchs! The picture of corruption is Russia and every Fing Russian. I have been there, and I know for sure you haven't. Had you, you would know you can not do anything of any value without payoffs. It is a country that more closely resembles the scum floating on the top of a dying pond.

Paulina said "no" so it will never happen. Hey, Vlad, did you read that?

It will be the number one destination for inward investment for some time. Aside from this illegal and unprovoked invasion the global food crisis is growing, increasing the importance of Ukraine.

Especially as russia is likely to be out in the child for decades.

By flattening cities, as Bobko put it?


Yup :)


I don't think he reads the internet, but maybe Medvedev after a few drinks will have enough courage to pass this message to him ;D

Your delusional proposal was offered to Poland in 1989-91 when ukraine was gaining its independence,, thankfully even the\ communist infested poland governments at the time said no to your imbecilic proposal. As many people on this thread have said you're living in the past. Not to mention you being a dumb as F mouthpiece for russian imperialism.

Not only did the Polish government fail to seize upon an opportunity to recapture Polish lands like Lwow, but they harmed the population by letting in 5 million ukrops creating a bunch of problems for the citizens which FINALLY people are starting to recognize and voice their concerns. Many Ukranian economists and even students doing their thesis write about Poland's successes and how Ukraine can emulate them. Problem is, at the end of the day it's still Ukraine. The brokest, most corrupt, most ****** country in Europe. Their GDP per capita is even lower than Albania. No wonder they come to Poland - a 3k 4k zloty a month job is like winning the lottery when you're making $250 a month.

The EU and IMF asked Ukraine to cut down on corruption. They promised they would, but they failed. It's too ingrained in them. They don't know how to operate without it.

They can't even a half decent army without the west giving them tens of billions of dollars. If it wasn't for the west they'd still be giving every soldier a rusty AK from 1972 and 10 bullets, with some WW1 and WW2 firearms even thrown in the mix LOL

Poland should've talked to Supreme Comedian-In-Chief Zydensky about it a la Anschluss. If he refuses, then option B is force a la Molotov-Ribbentrop. They were going to end up in Poland sooner or later anyway to drive ubers and work the cash register, might as well make it easy for them and just turn w Ukraine into a new malo Polska.


Totally different. Corruption in Russia mostly entails bribery, nepotism, preferential treatment on government contracts, etc. In Ukraine it's all about stealing as much government revenues as possible. Every faction wants their turn to loot the country and the past 30 years have been nothing more than the pro-west and pro-Russian sides taking turns to loot the country. One gets into power, they fire, jail, or even murder their opponents, put their own people in their place, proceed to looting the country, buy themselves a new Range Rover on a supposed $10, $20k government salary, and do everything to hold onto power so they can keep looting. The people get fed up and vote for the other camp, only for them to do the EXACT same thing. That's literally how Ukrainian politics have been over the past 30 years. It really is quite a comedy, hence why the country is literally now led by a comedian. LOL!!!

We are not crazy nationalists. Only about 5% are like you. Forget Lviv. It is Ukrainian for ever.

Another Polish metaphor. Hiroshima was flattened and 75,000 died within hours. That's "flattening".
In this case, 100% preventable. Z is paid well to fight to the last vertical Ukrainian, I guess.


Oh, but the euphoria and that feeling of doing something good. Irresistible and priceless.

Polkraina is now an established fact. Forever.

Indeed. The Polish inhabitants all moved to Breslau/Wrocław. In any case, it was only the city that was Polish: the region around it was less so then and not at all now.

Irredentism never works, as Vladolf Putler is finding to his cost right now.

It's going to be just like in the USA - press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish every time you call some business or government facility. Some cities are already 25%+ Ukranian including my home town Wroclaw. Every time I visited Poland there were more and more. 2 years ago and this last winter you literally couldn't walk down the street or in the mall or whatever without hearing Ukranian. And if you ordered a cab, uber, etc. 99% your driver is Ukrainian, get a coffee - Ukrainian barista, get a bite to eat maybe the waiter will still be Polish, but the busser and rest of the staff def Ukrainian, do a remodel - Polish foreman, all Ukrainian workers.... you get the point. I can only imagine what it looks like now that 5 million more came in. Proportionally, that'd be like if 40 50 million Mexicans just came into the USA within 3-4 months, Chicago, NYC, LA, etc all grow by 25%+ within 3-4 months, and even then it wouldn't be as bad as in Poland since USA is far larger.

It's the same thing as in the USA with Latinos but it's Poland with Ukrainians. America has some 90 million immigrants of which Latinos are the largest group. Difference is, USA is a big country and they're mainly in large cities and the southern states near the border. In Poland, it's every major city. And even in more rural areas people are hiring them for agricultural work since they'll work for a fraction of Poles.

Like with Mexico - you pay a Mexican dude $200 and hell be happy asf work 10 hours a day busting his ass. Well, in Poland you pay a Ukrainian 12, 15 zloty an hour and he's ecstatic thinking he just landed the best job of his life.

I'm not saying Americans and Poles would fill ALL those lower level jobs. Nonetheless, many undoubtedly would - students, young people with little experience, women as 2nd bread winners, whatever. But the Ukranians are all pricing them out of the market.

Soon it's going to be for more white collar professions. Why should a company hire a Polish programmer and pay him 10k, 12k or more zloty a month when they'll have a thousand Ukrainians that will do it for 5k.

Poles learnt it long ago. Now it is time for RuSSists to gain this precious knowledge. They will have to one day to avoid the collapse of RuSSia. So why delay the inevitable and prolong that agony?

RuSSists, if you want to have Western sanctions lifted, you have to:

- withdraw from the territories you illegally acquired through the war
- pay full compensation for all the death and destruction you caused in Ukraine
- hand over your war criminals to the Tribunal in the Hague.

If you don`t, sanction will remain in force for years. You know what that means. The RuSSist bear will be forced to perform in the Chinese circus.

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Yup, increasing oil revenues and a high yet stable ruble.

The west is already telling Zydensky to start negotiating with Putin and offer up territories because they're sick of propping up his excuse for a military and know that any additional billions in weapons and aid only prolongue the inevitable.

Ukraine is never going to be able to regain the territories they already lost. At best, they can start negotiating so they don't lose another 20%.

bild.de/politik/2022/politik/putins-schlimmster-soeldner-von-scharfschuetzen-getoetet-80340272.bild.html

...Vladimir Andonov is said to have fought in Donbass as early as 2014 and murdered prisoners of war and civilians there - for which he was nicknamed "Executioner". Now the member of the notorious Wagner group is dead. Apparently shot by a Ukrainian sniper. ...

....can't help it....he really looks "mongolian".....

Another day, another strategic fire.. (or a few it seems). Today's biggest was the Zagorsk Optical and Mechanical Plant near Moscow....

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1534590214039031809

this guy says the FSB started fires (by Surkov loyalists) all have the same signature, a particular accelerant and usually starting on the roof (sometimes with executions before the fire...

twitter.com/PutinHasNoPenis/status/1534594314721976323

@Bratwurst Boy

Maybe he looks Mongolian because he is, BB? Buryats were not heavily differentiated from Mongols until recently.

BS. The USA isn`t. You are seeing things which don`t exist. :):)


That is your personal opinion which we don`t agree with. :):) Pozhyviom, uvidim. You see? I even started using RuSSian so that you could understand me better.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

Muscovites in the voting determined that the area near the U.S. Embassy in the capital will be named "Donetsk People's Republic Square".

A weak response to name changes worldwide affecting the addresses of orc embassies.

Russian this time :)


lol

I bet Americans are like:




My thoughts exactly :))

That not give the right to any country or a falied state like Russian to attack Ukrainie.
By the same token you being a pathetic and stupid, a personj that gives a bad names to Poles, to shoot you down. You can enjoy freedom of being a piple on Putin dick.

Yes, it is a terrible blow to Americans. I wonder if Biden will resign from office after such a defeat. buhahahahaha hahahahah hihihihihi


lololololol

And a Chechen has just taken a very important position

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1534596035162546176

Is Kadyrov maneuvering to take Putin's job?

Will he be the first(?) muslim leader of Russia?

The country is set to be 30% muslim within 15 years (maybe faster)

....they are really not Europeans!


I don't get why so many neo-Nazis support Putin and his "fight against degenerate Europe"....there is not much "white" or christian whatever about Putin's empire!

That's what happens when Country A shells the people Country B feels an emotional connection to.

I would have preferred another name, too. For example, "Monica Lewinski Square". It's also weak, but it looks more compact and is better remembered by any English speaker. ;)

Unfortunately, such a person doesn't exist. If he did, he'd undoubtedly be an awesome ruler. Far better than Supreme Comedian-In-Chief Zydensky


Actually, Kissinger did. Biden also encouraged it in a low-key manner. As well as Macron. A call between Scholz and Putin didn't have the Russians retreating all the territory they've gained as one of the three main points on the agenda.

Even Comedian-In-Chief Zydensky admitted that leaders are pressuring him to cede territory and start negotiating. In fact, Zydensky said he wants the Russians to go back to "pre 24 February" territory, meaning he's ready to formally give up Crimea which was lost 8 years ago with no chance of Ukraine getting it back.

In late May, President Yidensky said he was ready to negotiate with Putin, but clearly Putin isn't ready to negotiate with him as there is no need to since the Russians are gradually taking more and more land, thereby increasing their already strong negotiating position if and when negotiations do finally happen.

Eventually, the west is going to get sick of President Yidensky's 'oy vey'ing' and 'gibs me shekels' and will tell him he needs to start negotiating or they're not going to send any more aid. They already know that sending more aid is just prolonging the inevitable. Ukraine is going to lose a bunch of land one way or the other. Question is how much? Crimea's already done with - that's a guarunteed loss. Question is, will the Donbass area be given to Russia or not in exchange for them leaving.

You are an immature child or a Russian, that would explain you BS.


Oh is that is totally different corruption it is Russian corruption there is no othe rlike it. It acculy very befecial to verybody involved and move country upwards in it devalopment, In fact Russian corruption it is only feature of the Russian state they created themselves, any other thing they either bought, stole or emulated from others.

It would be the only Russian cultural creation. Need to be protected.
Funny that Russian that is not even a nation desicided to attack Ukrainie, their nation finlly woke up. Poles were waiting for that for long time.

We need to make sure that Ukrainie wins this war.

Yes, he should. RuSSists deserve it. Decent Russians don`t but they will have to, too. :):):)

@Dirk

...my question (post #13,347) was also for you....is that common homo-hate and jew-hate really enough to support muslim Asians against white, christian Europe???