Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

30 kilometers in 100 days... a blitzkrieg!

Russia also has zero moral, soldiers who don't believe in what they're doing and who would bolt the first chance they get (and are not letting contract soldiers leave in violation of their own rules).

Russia can bomb areas to smithereens and make them unliveable but they can't hold territory in those conditions

And Russia can't mobilize without risking rebellion from the cities

Lots of interesting intercepted communication here:

twitter.com/mdmitri91

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He has made his choice and he has chosen the losers :-)

Yes, it is. Every map shows that Russia is gradually conquering more and more of Ukraine as time passes by. Every day they're conquering new lands, occupying more territory, consolidating their gains, and most importantly holding onto what they've conquered. They've learned from their mistakes the first few weeks of the war when they were overconfident.


Probably rebuild them like they did with Crimea. They've already put their own people into the government after conquering it from the Ukrainians. They'll have plenty of time to worry about that later.

And yes. Without America, NATO really has no purpose. NATO is basically America with a couple dozen associates, not even powerful enough to be considered junior partners.

And actually, those "shopping lists" that the losing Ukrainians gave are directed to America since they're the only ones who could supply even a fraction of it.

I must say though, that shopping list is very indicative of the tiny hat tribe - ask for an unreasonable amount, complain, complain complain, keep asking for more and more, eventually the person relents and says fine and gives some stuff over, more complaining that it wasn't enough, complain complain complain, keep asking for more and more, eventually the person relents and says fine and gives some more stuff over... repeat...

And unlike the Ukrainians, the Russians are CONSTANTLY shelling them. They have 10-15x the artillery that Ukraine does and unlike the Ukrainians can sustain CONSTANT barrages. The Ukrainians fire one round for every dozen or so that the Russians do.

And guess what? Just like the "Reddit Rambo" base of foreigners and the other stuff that the west sent, guess what's going to be target number 1 as soon as those deliveries make it across the Ukraine border?

Russia is going to bomb tfo arriving shipments, and then send a couple missles at Kiev apartments just for good measure for pissing them off.


Urban warfare takes time. Keep in mind, that 30 kilometers is also 30 kilometers that Ukraine lost and Russia gained. Hell, Mariupol alone is some 3% of Ukrainian GDP that just got transferred to the Russian economy.


So? War isn't about "morals" it's about wiping out your enemy.

It is a pitiful amount and all you display from your posts is an adoration of a supposed macho man, who is actually very ill and may not be around much longer.


Your logic is flawed.
Russians destroyed Mariupol.There is no GDP to transfer.
You post like a Russian moron with no brain!

Why do you support Russia?
Did your family do well under Russian occupation?
Were they collaboraters?

I'm sure even if he passes he'll die with a smile that more and more of "malo rossija" is coming back home. I'm sure hell also reminisce on decades of punking the west, making them they're ***** at every turn. He's even now got Macron and Merkel working to help Russia PR-wise so they can eventually go back to business as usual.

He's lived a hell of a life, been very successful politically and financially and is a great role model for other men. If only half the men in the west had his tenacity and guts it'd be much different place, especially the UK, Germany, France, etc. even more than America.


Obviously once business and services are restored....


We do well regardless of where we're at. Our family has thrived under all sorts of governments, living in different countries, different periods, didn't make a difference.

There is no easy way out. Especially after Mariupol was taken, lots of documentation captured, and ukrainian plans to cut water supply to whole Donbass (while use French-produced and almost completely installed water desalination plant to supply minimal needs of troops and population of ukraine-controlled areas) revealed completely. US biolabs also added fuel to the fire. So, don't expect that russian troops will stop anytime soon, first natural "stable line of delimitation" is Dniepr river with full control over Dniepr-Donbass Canal system. But task of denazification (read - debanderisation) of Ukraine will not be solved if troops stop at Dniepr, remaining tumor will start to create metastases in a next second. So, read between lines...

yea. they need to secure that water flow.
i remember what those criminals in Kiev did to Crimea nature and agriculture by cutting water supply.
they destroyed agriculture on peninsula
its crime against humanity.yet nobody gave a monkey. funny how they now crying about food shortage in the world.
fkiin hypocrites

Russian troops have very high morale. Especially after market and residental areas of Donetsk was heavily shelled with 155 mm NATO shells from Avdyevka stronghold (not much less than Mariupol Azovstal catacombs was built there in last 8 yrs) with freshly delivered french howitzers. And then German TV coverage where it was declared that "Russians shelled Donetsk and cause heavy civilian casualties in this eastern-european city". Be sure, once Slaviansk will be taken, and situation with water supply at least somewhat eased for Donbass population, Avdyevka area will be under "very special treatement", I think not so much of them will survive to be hanged in Donetsk later.

How the DEMILITARISATION is going visualised 👇👇👇

twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1536502420657913858

32 times 140... 4480

here are only officers, not ordinary soldiers

on this wall are pictures of 4480 killed Ukrainian officers

the number of soldiers killed must not even be mentioned...

If so many officers died, the number of dead soldiers is probably ten or more times higher. As Zelensky counts the losses...

@Crnogorac3

Zydensky and Co. made a few claims - 100 to 200 dead, 500-600 wounded a day, 150 dead a day, 10,000 total dead as of June, etc. They've been very quiet about casualties till recently.

Russia is reporting only like 3k dead (officially registered death and burial), but that's way less than total losses. The west says 15k-20k which sounds about right. Losses are split roughly down the middle - half Russian army, half DNR, LPR, Wagner, etc.

Typically in war though both sides will overestimate their kills and underestimate their losses so a third party estimate is likely to be more accurate. The western estimate of 15-20k Russia sounds right, but I think the Ukrainian figure is likely closer to 15k, not 10k (i.e. 150 avg a day dead reported figure x 100+ days of war).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Casualties_and_humanitarian_impact
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

Either way, Russia lost more troops than Ukraine there's no denying that. They were very foolish in the first few weeks of war. That overconfidence and hubris thinking that some 10k 20k troops or whatever were going to take over a fortified capital city got a lot of them killed.

What I'm really curious about though is what kind of hardware will Ukraine receive, when will they receive it, and how much. I would expect some supplies to trickle in gradually over the coming 1-2 months but I doubt it's going to make much of a difference. I expect the west to show token support, but no where near the shopping list that Ukraine demanded. E.G. How is USA going to give Ukraine 1,000 howitzers when that's entire stock and 300 MLRS when that's half their entire stock? Maybe UK will help out - they have 44 MLRS systems...

Everyone wants this war to end except Zydensky. He's holding onto a pipe dream that Ukraine is going to somehow get all this aid and recapture all the territory they lost. Maybe once FINALLY reality sinks in that he's in a terrible negotiating position, he's not going to get anywhere near the shopping list for his sugar daddies, and that the west isn't going to support him, maybe then he'll agree to cede territory and end the war.

All the main powers have different agendas here. France and Germany are already appeasing Russia to an extent since they want business to continue. USA no longer cares about this like they did in February/March, and well UK seems pretty adamant about continuing to help but there's only so much they can do. That and Poland seem to be the only allies that are really holding steadfast with Ukraine, but there's limits to what they can do and nowhere enough to push the Russians back to the border.

@Dirk diggler
You really dont know wtf you are talking about. Here, in Poland, where you can actually talk to soldiers that are involved, there is a much different opinion voiced by all. All of you Putin coxuckers are the same, never been to Ukraine, and dont know wtf you are talking about. But hey, your hero Putin looks great these days. Maybe in a couple of weeks he can get some work at the McDonalds replacement and take care of all the chocolate shakes just by standing with some in his hands.

If they're in Poland then clearly they're not involved, otherwise they'd be in Ukraine with other Ukrainian soldiers, fighting... not sipping iced lattes in Krakow.

And like I said, the only two countries that are really holding steadfast with Ukraine is Poland (for obvious reasons) and UK. Nonetheless, there's only so much those countries can do. USA has a greater military budget than like the next top 10 countries combined.

If anyone is going to send an amount of equipment that's going to make a real difference (basically prolong the inevitable, but no way recapturing the whole 20 25% that was lost) it'd be the USA. And well, in the USA, I can tell you that people are over this Ukraine thing and are grumbling even about the $40 bil that was given since that money could've been put to better use here especially with the stagflation we're experiencing.


What exactly did I post that isn't true, and what evidence do you have to counter it? Everything I wrote is backed up by a source. Furthermore, I was in ROTC which means I have more experience with military than just about every poster here who's never served.


No, of course not. I don't visit countries I don't want to see, unless I have to for work. Why would I want to see the poorest, most corrupt and unstable country in Europe? The only reason I can think of for going there is shopping since everything there is even cheaper than in Poland since people are living off $200, $300 a month.

The only former part Ukraine worth visiting is Crimea since it's known as a great vacation spot along the Black Sea, but that's a part of Russia.

@Dirk diggler
Again you prove you don't know anything. ROTC? LMFAO I have spoken to Ukraine soldiers and volunteer's from other countries who come to Krakow on weekend passes. See, its actually operating like a real military and soldiers do get breaks, along with those breaks they also come to Poland for training on new equipment. Your information is nothing more than government propaganda.

As for whats happening in the US, I am well aware of the attitude and how people a complaining over gas prices, yet the oil companies are having record profits. Newsflash...Freedom is not free. But of course every whining little biatch has to complain about something there. Need a rally, just look at the latest news and form some kind of group and have a rally.

Crimea? Been there, and its not even as nice as Chicago's lakefront. Millions invested by Russia? Not really. Still a cheap version of the Jersey shore only with Russian accents. But the drunken stupidity is just the same.

Stagflation? Blame COVID, not the war. COVID and the lockdowns are the cause, and its just beginning. 40 Billion is nothing for the US to give, its just a matter of turning on the printing machine. Maybe another round of stimulus for the US is in order? Yep, that worked, and so did all the unemployment extensions and benefits. The US needs to stop blaming everyone else, and start looking in the mirror.

Ukrainian forces are within 10km of Kherson. Perhaps even less.
Drone supported artillery and tank shells are continuing to target the occupiers.
Meanwhile Russia can't even take Severodonetsk after 110 days.

Yeah, ROTC. That means that the staff sergeant who's been in the army for a decade or two still has to answer to me, a 22 year old still wet behind the ears fresh out of college since I'm a commissioned officer and he isn't.. Do you have any military training? Hell do you even know basic assault tactics like slicing the pie or NATO symbols for units?

But of course we have a 4 star general over here...


I did... just watched the news for a half hour... passing references about the war in relation to the US economy, not even a 1 minute segment devoted to the war. In February/March you'd have live updates and they'd be talking about it nonstop on every channel. Not anymore. Americans have moved on to other things. No one cares anymore. In fact, the only thing people in the USA care about in relation to the war is NOT sending any more aid to Ukraine. And it doesn't matter if it's $1 or $40 billion, right now Americans believe that money needs to be spent here instead. The economic situation was nothing in February/March like it is today.

Besides, the USA has already given far more aid than anyone else and what did it get Ukraine? All those javelins, artillery, etc. Sure, they saved their capital which was arguably the most important. However, now they've used up much of that aid and are demanding billions more because they're gradually losing more and more of the east and south and are way too broke to address the issue themselves. Well, USA isn't going to be so generous this time around, I can promise you that - hell just watch the news lol.

Ukraine is like a needy young girl that gives you a kiss but won't put out. Well, sooner or later the sugar daddy is going to move on, especially when he has other concerns on his mind. That's an apt metaphor for this situation.

The USA might send some token aid, but they're not going to get the billions they want or anywhere near the 1,000 howitzers, 1,000 drones, 300 MLRS, etc. that they put on their shopping list.

Poland, UK, etc. might send some stuff, but even if they're very generous it's no where near what the Ukrainians are asking for and what would make a real difference on the battlefield. Only the USA has enough equipment that could really tip the scale again but they're not going to.

Ukraine isn't going to join NATO either, NATO isn't going to enforce a no-fly zone, and NATO isn't going to send troops to Ukraine either.

Hell, even the Ukrainian officer admitted in an article I referenced earlier that the Johnny Depp trial is more interesting to Americans than the Ukraine war.


COVID was over long in the USA before inflation started to really hit. COVID is no longer a concern in the USA - no one wears masks even in the stricter states. Stagflation was caused by the some $10 trillion printed during COVID which increased prices, then the "sanctions" which even politicians admit are having little to no effect on Russia and most certainly didn't and won't stop them from continuing the war, but which made gas prices rise and thus every good go up even more so in price. That's what's on American minds - how much am I going to spend at the gas pump? How am I going to manage my food budget when everything doubled in price? ... even "Why did Johnny Depp win" is more important to Americans than the Ukraine war at this point. But maybe that will change if Russia launches a nuke or something. Otherwise, people don't care anymore.

I'm sure it's different in Poland though since it's happening right next door. Polish people feel it everyday since the country has been overly generous to a fault causing a whole host of problems caused by overcrowding and stretched resources.

Meanwhile, Russia enjoys more revenue thanks to rising oil prices than they even expected to get with no sign of slowing down. If anything since they're making even more money now on oil they have an added reason to continue the war so prices don't go down and stabilize.

That's why people are calling for this war to be over, for Ukraine to negotiate and even cede territory if need be,


Russia conquering Ukraine has nothing to do with freedom in America.

Still waiting for you to disprove the things I wrote i.e. Ukrainian/Russian losses, USA caring less and less about Ukraine with media not even talking about the war unless it's in the context of US economy namely inflation/high gas prices, Germany and France eager to strike a deal with Putin so business can return to normal (France is even offering to be a mediator in negotiations), that Ukraine isn't going to ANYWHERE near the shopping list they made for their western sugar daddy, discussions during Davos about Ukraine negotiating peace even if it means ceding territory, etc.


Actually, Russia just started the offensive around Severodonetsk in early May and reached the actual city and began assaulting it by the end of May. They control the vast majority of Severodonetsk with only a few pockets of resistance left mainly in the chemical planet.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sievierodonetsk_(2022)

Thats the honest feeling of the majority Americans right now. Biden has screwed up the economy so badly its all ppl are talking about. And why are we giving away our missile stockpile? Its not surplus! The EU hasnt done crap, they have plenty of money and just want stupid Biden to pay for it all.


What happened to all of Bidens sanctions? LOL They stopped talking about it because it totally backfired.

None of this BS would of happened if Trump were still in office. Ill take a few mean tweets for $2.00 per gallon.

Fentanyl Joe says hes running again in 2024...LOL

Probably not directly but the welfare of the USA as a state is definitely at stake. If Russia is allowed to take Ukraine and, in the future, create something resembling former Soviet Union that will definitely encourage China to take Taiwan and become even more aggressive in the Pacific. In such multipolar world it won't be very difficult to imagine dollar no longer being an international exchange currency - what Russia did with rubel and gas/oil transactions is just a tiny example of what might happen; after the victoriuos war, together with China they will have enough tools to turn dollar into toilet paper. No more cheap gas, food and everything for Americans - goodbye American Way of Life (whatever that means). $40 billion is peanuts money compared to the possible cost of the new multi-polar world that Russia and China dream of. Being the only global superpower is costly but not being the only global superpower can prove ruinous for the USA. Why do you think America has been conducting all those wars all over the globe? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Get real.


...which are actually not "pockets" because they are not surrounded completely by Russian forces.

The guy that wants to "revoke" the independence of Lithuania now says Russia should "revoke" the independence of Latvia, Estonia (and Ukraine).

He thinks that would mean that they are no longer members of NATO since the alliance doesn't accept countries with territorial disputes.

Anyone still think Russia intends to stop after Ukraine?


Mariupol is going to be a black hole of debt and not generate anything for quite a few years now... the city is a pile of rubble with a fraction of the population and probably massive disease outbreaks....


Dog meat is delicious!

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@Dirk diggler
"22 year old still wet behind the ears" and this says all I need to know. You make it clear in your idiotic comments.

@Joker
Biden, and Fauci screwed the economy, along with every left wing nutcase who wanted lockdowns. This was because of COVID. Trump in office would have been him giving Putin a BJ before he went into Ukraine, US leaving NATO, and probably a civil war in the US. DeSantis is the only hope for USA moving forward.

40 Billion in aid to Ukraine if put into the US instead would do nothing for the economy. 40 billion in Ukraine creates a lot of reconstruction jobs when the war is over. 40 billion supports the military industrial complex that has to be fed in the US.

@PolAmKrakow
Looking at the news today, it seems the orcs attacking Severodonetsk didn't expect such strong resistance.

Massive casualties on their side and plenty of orc meat for dogs in Donbas to chew on.

@jon357
I am on Rynek now, and a lot of US soldiers here. Going to have a nice chat with as many as possible, while I have my coffee to see what they are willing to talk about. Usually able to glean some interesting info. Going to see how many of these fine officers went to ROTC for sure!

AMERICAN/CZECH MERCENARIES AMBUSHED AND KILLED BY SPETSNAZ NEAR SLAVYANSK (18+)

WATCH

"🃏☠️The Joker and his friends did not survive the meeting with the special forces.
Group of special forces of the O group successfully ambushed a car from the Czech Republic near Slavyansk. The mercenaries have been destroyed, and we have no casualties.

#exclusive from the front."

bitchute.com/video/AiZ3EP6WQs0z/

Rubbish from 'bitchute'

Joker's' buddies?

Get a load of these "Call of Duty" players. Disgusting at 3:35 in the video they show their "toilet"--a room where they just $hit on the floor. Ever hear of digging a latrine, morons? Near their food preparation area, too. Yeah, these experts will go far. 😏

youtu.be/DPHHIbG-O6M

russia supporters always get nasty when their side is losing.

The same when Serbia lost so badly.

Fortunately for the world most people aren't so inadequate or deranged.

And now Serbia will not be buying Russian oil starting in November. A little thing called EU membership in the balance. Either support and participate in sanctions or you dont get into the club. Scratch another country off Hitlers, er I mean Putins list.

As of May 24, imports to Russia declined by 89%....

Sanctions have failed, baby!!!!!

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1536939144261226496

Let them eat rubles!

Nord Stream starts to fall apart.
rbc.ru/politics/14/06/2022/62a8c4249a7947e93cf62d72?from=newsfeed

Gazprom previously announced that it was forced to reduce pumping through the Nord Stream due to a delay in the repair of units. Siemens explained that they are being repaired in Canada, whose sanctions prevent the return of turbines

Liberated Mariupol



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Is the beach already cleared of mines?