Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

Oh, no. Such a lovely pipe! Pity.

:D

Excellent news. May it never be fixed.

God knows... Russians claimed they cleared the beach and were telling people to go to the beach for propaganda purposes - so they could claim that life in Mariupol is going back to normal and such photos like the one posted by Crnogorac3 were supposed to be "a proof" of that for the Russian public. It ended with a tragedy though - on June 3 two civilians - one of them an eight-year-old child - have been killed by a mine that was buried at Mariupol beach:

euroweeklynews.com/2022/06/06/8-year-old-child-killed-by-buried-landmine-on-mariupol-beach-in-ukraine/

"Despite the tragedy, the occupation authorities and propagandists continue to invite people to go to the beach. Beautiful photos and videos are more important than people's lives". added Andriushchenko"

And it's not just in Mariupol:

"Authorities in Kyiv also reported that three other civilians had died on Sunday, June 5, in the town of Lazurny, in the Kherson region. Similarly, their deaths were due to the explosion of a mine placed by Russian forces on another of the beaches in the area."

youtu.be/UV5_pK8BjY8

Until the new year, Mariupol will be a cleaner, more renovated and tidier city than Philadelphia, Detroit, Baltimore or similar hamerican cities.

@Crnogorac3, can Putin resurrect dead people too? Can he grow new limbs for people who are invalids now because of his war?

You're honestly sickening.


Sure, Russians will build a new city in a few months! lol 🤦 Whomever claims this must be either lying, delusional or a complete idiot.

Why don't you liberte your mind>? Before someone do it for you with nine gram of lead?

When you take by the military force a city in a foreign country is say that the city was taken not liberated. Learn English.

So as well as having an Ivy League education it turns out Dirk is also a military officer.

Why does the Russian side always attact these fantasists ? Is it the nihilism ? Attention seeking ?

Support for Ukraine does seem to be waning among Polish Americans - it's really a concern. Celebration of your Polish heritage is about more than a few parades and polka bands.

25-year-old Yevgeniya Semenenko has been killed in battle against the Russian Army.



I hope the cat is alive and well. We will somehow get over that ukropian banderite.

Poor bolshevised Russians aka 'Ukrainians'. They perished with the intention of turning the old Russian land of Rus into a leftard-nazi anti-Russia. They wanted to yet without their heads they were left.

t.me/intelslava/31246

twitter.com/AlexeyNemo/status/1537045062420398082

It is nice to know that Slaveno-Serbski Bahmut will soon be liberated from the vampiric ukro-nazi beast and that it will be added to the family of the liberated Kievan-Rus cities.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavo-Serbia

What a rubbish! What kind if nazi speak is that? Anyone with some knowldge of History would laugh at you you sound like a clown!

Anyone who uses this word unironically is broadcasting "I'm an ignorant sucker who falls for any BS that Russia Today spoonfeeds me!"

If you're gonna mess your pants in public at least have the common decency to be embarrassed about it....

Lvov



The demolition of that very monument will mark the end of the war.

The historical figure of stepan bandera has nothing to do with modern Russian myths about Bandera.... and "banderites"...

Again, you're just advertising what a Russian cvck you are....

russianpropagandabot.blogspot.com/2022/05/operation-novorossiya-history-of_9.html

You are hilarious!!

The Russians will never reach Lvov......... they couldn't even take Kiev!

@Joker
Exactly. But the people here don't want to admit it. I don't know why so many people here struggle with accepting reality when it doesn't fit their agenda. Whether one prefers CNN or Fox for news, the fact remains that Americans stopped caring about the Ukraine war and it's not talking about anymore in the media like it was back in February/March when it first started.

The only mention of Ukraine in the media is in relation to how it's affecting the American economy. People want it to end, definitely don't want more money to be sent there, and care much more about how much they're going to spend filling up their gas tank than what's going on in Ukraine.

Hell, even Ukrainians admitted that Americans care more about the Johnny Depp trial than the Ukraine war LOL

I'm sure it's different in Poland since it's right next door, but the fact is Americans have moved on and don't care anymore.


Oil and spreading influence. In the case of Ukraine, America has little to gain for a hell of a lot of money. At best, America will prop up Ukraine if it's sovereignty is totally threatened. But they can care less whether Ukraine regains the 20% they lost to Russia or not and in fact many are calling for them to cede this territory so the war can end.

And like I said, regardless if it's $1 or $100 billion, Americans and increasingly politicians are calling for that money to remain here on account of the problems experienced stateside that weren't nearly as bad as in February/March. It's a stupid argument saying "oh it's not that much." I'm sure most people here could afford to donate $1,000 to Ukraine without it affecting their livelihood yet I highly doubt anyone would. No, instead they're going to keep it in their savings or spend it on something needed rather than just give it away, especially when their livelihood is diminished due to stagflation.

Also, a pocket doesn't necessarily mean encirclement, it means that a group is cut off which the few remaining Ukrainians are and even admit that bridges are blown with no way out, communication is very challenging, etc.

Just as with Mariupol, there were also a few pockets of resistance when the city was for all intensive purposes captured and occupied by Russia.

Severodonetsk is done - even Zydensky is calling them to surrender since their resistance is useless.

The Russians took it, Ukrainians launched a counterattacked that failed, and now Russians control 80% and are doing a mop up. No different than how Mariupol was taken.

news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-russia-tells-forces-in-severodonetsk-to-end-their-senseless-resistance-and-surrender-this-morning-12634178
bbc.com/news/world-europe-61786949


The ones that you have absolutely no counter for, that you cannot disprove let alone with any sources?

Just because you don't want to admit the reality that people stopped caring about Ukraine, they're not going to get the arms they want, have ran through the supplies they have and are nearly out of artillery, and are gradually losing more and more territory as the weeks go on doesn't mean it's not happening.

FYI - commissioned officers generally don't socialize with enlisted ranks.

They'll be in Poland for a while and never in Ukraine, seeing as how NATO said there's no way they're going to enforce a no-fly zone or put troops in Ukraine. I guess the Ukrainians will have to settle for the 4 whole HIMARs systems they were given LOL

But while you are there ask them if Americans still care about the Ukraine war. If they're being honest they'll tell you no, that they only care about it as it relates to consumer spending. Ask them about media coverage about the war today versus February/March. If they're being honest they'll tell you it went from being talked about nonstop, to shorter and shorter segments, to now only talking about it as a something that needs to end so the cost of goods can come down.


Uhh yea, lol...decreased imports means higher GDP - basic GDP formula and a higher trade surplus. A country importing less goods isn't bad for them, it's bad for the countries that were previously exporting those goods, causing a drop in their GDP. This is macroeconomics 101 lol....

economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/05/13/russia-is-on-track-for-a-record-trade-surplus

Yeah thanks to the decline in imports and Russian exports they're enjoying a record trade surplus, so yes, sanctions have failed - you're absolutely right.

As far as the consumer side, Russia has to find substitute goods for those imports, which is a good thing since they'll have to produce those goods domestically.

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/02/russia-economic-war-ukraine-food-fuel-price-vladimir-putin

Even The Guardian admits that sanctions have done little to stop Russia and only ended up hurting western consumers. At best, it'll make Russia's GDP decline by 7-8%, meanwhile Ukraine's GDP is expected to decline 35-50%.

@Dirk diggler
You don't even read before writing. You just start striking keys and go off with your rambling. As for Officers and enlisted, you are neither. Nor are you Ivy educated.

@GefreiterKania
I graduated with a JD from a top University on the east coast and know all too well the Ivy system. I also know the donkeys exist. However, writing styles, expressions, and forms of argument exhibited by this individual show absolutely no Ivy "tendencies". A poser, nothing more.

No you're right, because I dropped out of ROTC like I mentioned here before several times. I explained that the Iraq and Afghan wars were going on at the time and I wasn't going to put my life at risk for some Zionists just because they paid for my bachelor's.

Nonetheless, that still makes me have far more military experience than you who has ZERO. Yet you speak as if you had the knowledge of a 4-star general.


I never said I was. I do however have a bachelor's degree and an MBA from prestigious Jesuit universities. I wouldn't go to an Ivy league even if given the opportunity since they've become breeding grounds for the neo-bolsheviks and full of SJWs. Not interested.

At least Jesuit schools tend to still be conservative plus they gave me some grants, reduced tuition, etc. I will do my PhD at a Jesuit university as well when the time comes.


Then it should be easy for you to disprove the following, especially as a JD who's supposed to be good at arguing, yet all you do is repeat lame ad hominem garbage with zero substance:

Yet you call me an idiot? You've contributed NOTHING to the discussion except nonstop name calling. Absolutely nothing of substance... Yeah you're a real Rhodes scholar... and also I forgot, a 4-star general...

Regardless, here are the FACTS. which you cannot disprove and thus resort to ad hominem attacks since that is your only retort:
1) Ukraine is losing territory, they've now lots Severodonetsk which even Zydensky told the last remaining pockets to surrender since resistance is senseless
2) Ukraine is going to get very limited help at best, NATO said no no-fly zone, no boots on the ground, and will not receive anything near that shopping list that they gave to their western sugar daddies. The list they gave would involve basically transferring half of America' stock of MLRS and all the howitzer's to Ukraine, not going to happen... meanwhile the other countries can't come close - 2nd biggest power in NATO has a total of 44 MLRS and 89 155mm artillery

3) Americans don't care about the Ukraine war and have moved on, they are more concerned with the cost of living then sending billions to a country most can't even find on a globe. In fact, the Johnny Depp trial was BY FAR more important and more talked about in the USA than the Ukraine war, which even a Ukrainian official admittied.

4) There are increasing calls for Zydensky to negotiate even if it means ceding territory i.e. Davos summit, US politicians, and even France and Germany want things to end favorably for Russia so they can get back to business

5) The sanctions have done NOTHING to stop Russia's attacks. In fact, they've had the opposite effect of boosting Russia's oil revenues and overall exports giving them a record trade surplus, while creating huge cost increases for western consumers, as numerous respected media outlets including business and economics focused ones admit.

Meth problem. You post like a broken record.

@Dirk diggler
Again, you do not read before going off. Had you read my other posts dummy, you would have learned where I agree on a few points. But you are to ignorant to take the time to read. Your Jew hating colors all your arguments as childish, that's all you have? Sanctions are not designed to stop attacks. They are designed to defeat the enemy in the long term by starving them of the resources needed for a sustained war. Those tactics are working.

Your GDP argument earlier was funny though, considering every US company that pulled out of Russia is experiencing unexpected growth. Even in a bad market, revenues are up for those companies. The ones that did not? Not so well.

A JD does not allow me to "disprove" anything. Had you received a real education, you would know that argument is based on "proofs" there is no such thing as a "negative proof" because it would not exist. Disproving can not be done on a persons "opinion'. What I can prove is that more Russians are dead than Ukrainians. That is a generally accepted fact. So, lets argue facts shall we, not opinions.

Not a four star general. I did however study Military Justice in my free time after University as it fascinated me, and through that study I met a lot of very well trained military men and women who were lifer's. Unlike you, they provided a lot of valuable information and continue to be resources today. Now isn't it time for you to go get a taco or something, southside atmosphere must be great today.

Removal of the disgusting occupation symbols

t.me/intelslava/31213

🇺🇦 Ukraine, goodbye!

The guys from the village of Shevchenkove (Kharkiv region) know a lot about denazification

t.me/intelslava/31214

Residents of the village of Osipenko, Berdyansk region, got rid of the Ukrainian past and installed the flag of the Russian Federation on the building of the village administration

Now Russia is here forever!🇷🇺

That would mean Russia being strong forever.....but as we all know world history doesn't work that way!

Not sure Jesuits approve of neo-nazis though, or are you mentally unwell like novi, in real life all pious and lefty, but have a split personality on PF where you manifest your inadequacies through anti-semitic vitriol.?

Even if Ukrainians don't get any help at all, as long as they are willing to keep fighting, Russia is not going to win this war. They won't defeat an 800,000 army and occupy a 40 million country. They simply don't have enough forces. That's why the entire trollnia Putina is trying to convince people that Ukraine is losing badly and Russia is on a sure way to victory; neither is true.

@GefreiterKania

Yes, Ukraine can continue fighting. The price is lives. They showed they can delay events in Mariupol, now they are showing this in Severodonetsk. The price, again, is human lives. If you don't have enough guns, enough shells, enough armor, enough mechanization - the way you buy time is by throwing meat into the grinder. Odd that Ukrainians have adopted this famously "Russian" tactic.

However, even this has diminishing marginal returns. Ukraine is losing its best now, and those coming to replace them are of necessarily lower quality. Kind of like how the Wehrmacht of 1941 and 1944 were two different animals. Many of the loudest voices for Ukrainian independence and pride have died over the course of the last 4 months. Many more will die as the war continues.

Russian soldiers meanwhile, are on a reverse trajectory of improving morale. From the convoluted and overly-political goals drilled into them from the beginning, which poorly matched realities on the ground, they now have their own motivations. Simple motivations. Motivations like, "I will make them pay for Sasha", "I will make them pay for Sanya", "I will make them pay for Mishka".

They never really needed anything more straightforward than «Че-то хохлы развыебывались» (those khokhols have forgotten their place). But now, they have even simpler motivations.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT : A week ago our team ended up isolated in the middle of a Russian Offensive. Bama and Hate, 2 of our American brothers, were captured.

We have not since heard anything about their well being. The information was confirmed by the Ukrainian intelligence.

twitter.com/TFBaguette/status/1537001641114746880

........ confirmation of what has already been said has arrived



Let the paratroopers liberate them. :)

It has been revealed who the two captured hamerican degenerates are.



t.me/boris_rozhin/53779

Free people's republic courts will fairly judge them for their aggression and participation in a joint criminal enterprise on the holy Russian land.

More ad hominem from a person who can't otherwise provide a substantive counterargument... how did you even get work as a lawyer? Calling someone stupid, idiot, etc won't take you very far in a case. And I'll have you know I live in arguably the most prestigious wealthy suburb in the metro area.


Unlike you, I'm posting facts, not ad hominem attacks or an abysmal understanding of economics and finance.... Facts such as Ukraine has lost 20% of its territory and continues to lose more, how Zydensky asked the last holdouts in Severodonetsk to surrender, that Russia is making more money off oil than even before the war, that the media no longer talks about the Ukraine war, etc. All these are easily verified facts.


ROFL!!!! Unexpected growth? Revenues are up for every company? BWHAHAHAH!!!

Have you not been paying attention to markets lately? Almost every major company's shares have gone down some even by 20, 30% over the past month - those same major US companies all had operations in Russia. And you're talking about revenue?! LOL! Dude, do you know what an income statement even is? Revenue doesn't matter ****. Revenue can be up for many companies which is meaningless since it's totally offset by skyrocketing COGS, interest, etc. thereby reducing net income, resulting in lower EPS and thus why shares that have fallen by 10-30%+.

And besides, those companies leaving will have a minimal impact on Russia's GDP. Macroeconomics 101...

Why don't you talk about Ukraine's GDP, which unlike Russia is going to go down by a third to half. I guess it's a good thing you went into law, which even that surprises me, and not finance or economics lol.

President Zelensky to you.

In the Kherson region, they confirmed that from September 1:

1. Education will be transferred to Russian standards.
2. Training will be in Russian.
3. They will study according to Russian textbooks.

There is no teaching about countless genders in Kherson schools.
From now on, Russian history, culture and literature are taught.

youtu.be/eMbvDUVk5e4

Wonderful song, dear Russian girls.

Fine... Supreme Comedian in Chief and President of about 80% of Ukraine, Yidensky.


It was bad... A couple weeks back I posted some pictures that kids were drawing in Ukrainian schools.... lesbian couples with beards... the usual western degenerate type stuff...

I find it hillarious how all these corporations change their logos in June to gay rainbow flags, but they only do it in western markets. If they did it in their middle east markets or africa they'd be finished.

They are fighting any way they can against technically superior invaders. As a Pole I can relate.


Ukrainian Army's losses aren't anywhere near those of Wehrmacht between '41 and '44.


Exactly the same is true for Ukrainian soldiers.

"Those khokhols" are defending their motherland from a treacherous invasion without declaration of war. Again, as a Pole, I can relate. If they keep fighting (and they will) and the West keeps aiding them (and they will), there's no way Russia is winning this in the long run. Of course, you won't agree, so we will have to wait and see who was right.