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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Bobko
30 Jun 2022  #5911

Then post a link to this interview

Internet challenged I see.

Editor's response to widespread criticism of even publishing the article:

pravda.com.ua/columns/2022/06/28/7355154/

The original article:

pravda.com.ua/articles/2022/06/27/7354838/

Both are Ukrainian-language pages to avoid accusation of sending to Russian resources, or inaccuracy in English translation. If you are super Poles like you claim, you should not need translation. Still, you could use Google translate to translate the entire page at once instead of copy text over, by first going to Google Translate's dedicated site and pasting the article link there to get a new translated link:

translate.google.com/

or by installing the Google Translate plug in for your browser.

Just entering the url into the little translation box on the normal search engine page will not give you a full page translation link.

GefreiterKania
30 Jun 2022  #5912

Putin invaded because of his "toxic masculinity" and wouldn't have invaded if he were a woman

I wouldn't be so sure. Toxic femininity can be every bit as vile and vicious as toxic masculinity. It is especially true with childless women in whom unfulfilled maternal instinct turns into something ominous and disquieting. The mass of bile keeps growing and then, when it's crosses certain treshold, turns into a black hole of evil, destroying everything that comes near.

No, Dirk... if Putin were a toxic woman, nukes would be flying in the air already.

gregy741
30 Jun 2022  #5913

Who are those people I don't know but I know that even more calls them on them being Russian stooges.

just read comments from todays news. first one i picked about ukra war.see what poles say .
wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-rosyjski-zolnierz-chcial-wrocic-do-domu-tam-jest-kij-zlamie-,nId,6125059
keep living your delusional life,.keep being stupid . i dont care
gotta love the latest news for polish people from polish media.
about 70 year old pensioner ,who russian soldiers broke her back. but she run away from them , got into car. drove to train station ,and traveled to lwow.

with broken back.
this kinda stupidity you being fed with. you "true pole"

Crow
30 Jun 2022  #5914

Serbia doesn't want to fall in line then they cant get into the EU. Simple.

Not that simple. Hungary is with us. Poland, too. Visegrad countries.

Soon this would become obvious.

The moment NATO open new conflict on Balkan, its the end of NATO. At least for countries of Visegrad, then also Bulgaria, Crna Gora and Macedonia.

We here know what exactly would happen in a cascade effect.

Poland would simple turn to its basic and primal strategic interests. Especially when is clear that Adriatic and Balkan remain only Poland`s option for warm seas of Europe, as always, after all, and what is most important that has consent from Russia. Russia always respected Polish-Serbian deals. So, no matter internal turmoils, Poland won`t mistake. Especially considering Sarmatian connection represent strongest lobby in Poland. You sow that when it comes to Serbs and Balkan, even ultra Polish Catholics reacts firmly pro-Serbian. They actually lead the pro-Serbian movement.

Crnogorac3
30 Jun 2022  #5915

Ukrainian forces left the town of Pryvillya and likely will leave the other towns around the near vicinity of Lysychans'k to avoid encirclement.

l

How precisely they're beating them.

t.me/romanov_92/20797

This is what Ukrainian defense boils down to. Running away until a grenade blows you up.

Crow
30 Jun 2022  #5916

German Chancellor Scholz laughs when asked by journalist how G7 countries plan to guaranty safety of Ukraine >

People, this EU and that NATO are f****ng and lethal joke. Lethal, because unfortunately many would die allover Europe before it became obvious to all they are joke.

Cojestdocholery
30 Jun 2022  #5917

keep living your delusional life,.keep being stupid . i dont care

you do, otherwise you wouldn't post here so much rubbish.
What you are talking about - media?
Look you support Russia against Poland. That is main point here. I see you live aborad. Never come back traitor and no excuses if you are going to be taken to task for your treason.

Running away

Oh shut up you psycho!

Crnogorac3
30 Jun 2022  #5918

l

Russian invasion forces have captured Vovchoyarivka and are fighting for Maloryazantseve and Verkhnokamyanka.
Days after "withdrawing to much better defendable positions around Lissichiansk", the Ukrainian army is on the brink of losing all of Luhansk province to Russia.

twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1542162281462652934

Jihadi Julian has been warning the Ukrops for a long time that their tactics are stupid, suicidal and that they are losing the war. Taught by the Syrian experience, he knows how the Russians wage war and that they will keep grinding them down like this until they take everything they want, and Julian was campaigning for moderate jihadists in Syria convinced that SAA, Russia and Iran will tire, become spent, that NATO weapons will turn the war around, but experience is the best school, they say. His proposal is also probably "sign the deal Zelensky" or save what you can, you will lose badly if you continue. However, Kiev nobody is asking anything.

PolAmKrakow
30 Jun 2022  #5919

Russia just evacuated Snake Island after getting blown up again last night! lmfao

Tacitus
30 Jun 2022  #5920

Oh dear, those maps again?

AntV
30 Jun 2022  #5921

@Tacitus

:D But, Crno is right, isn't he? I read in the same about Luhansk being on the verge of being lost to Russia in Wall Street Journal.

Tacitus
30 Jun 2022  #5922

Russia has been close to taking Luhansk for some time now. The Ukrainians are by all accounts fighting a skillfull delaying battle. They forced Russia to use all its' reserve in order to take some insignificant villages and small towns, all the while avoiding being encircled. More than 4 months of intense fighting and Ukraine is still holding on to Donbass. Remarkeable.

PolAmKrakow
30 Jun 2022  #5923

Even if any of these Russian trolls or POS are right, and Russia is incrementally gaining ground. Ukraine is just now getting weapons to really fight back. This war is far from over, and Ukraine has not lost. Russia has lost 25% of its entire army and they have not won anything. They are running out of smart weapons, and will not be able to keep up the fighting like they have for much longer.

Russia will never win the financial war, or the PR war. As a country they will be a pariah like never before. The Cold War days will look like a holiday.

GefreiterKania
30 Jun 2022  #5924

More than 4 months of intense fighting and Ukraine is still holding on to Donbass.

Exactly. All this time, all the forces thrown into the war, all their modern missiles stocks depleted and the "2nd army in the world" (lol!) can't even take Donbass. From the military point of view the "special defeat" cannot be considered anything else than the greatest embarassment in military history. Even Italians in Greece in 40/41 didn't embarass themselves as much (and had much lower losses).

And whom is the "2nd army in the world" fighting??? A corrupt, poor, post-Soviet republic, with a ragged rabble of an army, armed ad hoc with random equipment from all over Europe. :D Imagine if they had to face a regular NATO army like Slovaks or the Portuguese - no chance. I won't even mention Finns or Poles, out of pure pity and fair play. As I said, imagine all the nukes suddenly disappear - how long would Russia last? A rhetorical question. All the churches in Russia should conduct special services in honour of Holy Nuclear Weapons every day, because that's the only thing that saves Russia at the moment.

Paulina
30 Jun 2022  #5925

Internet challenged I see.

No, but I have no time to look for links every time someone claims something - if you claim something and you've read the article then you should be the one providing the link to that article.

if Putin were a toxic woman, nukes would be flying in the air already.

I doubt it. Statistically men are more suicidal, after all. You are a good example of this with your "Ahhh, I have enough of this, let nukes fly!" lol ;)

If you are super Poles like you claim, you should not need translation.

Eh? Poles don't live in the "Stargate SG-1" world, so we need translation just as everyone else :))) I also know how to use Google Translate, it's just I was hoping that there's a proper English translation of that article.

Tacitus
30 Jun 2022  #5926

The Russians habe apparantly lost a landing craft near Mariupol through one of their own mines.

Makes you wonder if they'll have a Black Sea fleet left when this war is over.

Bobko
30 Jun 2022  #5927

so we need translation just as everyone else

I meant that the languages are similar enough you should be able to read it without translation - if Cyrillic letters do not break your brain.

It's exactly the lack of knowledge of Polish vocabulary that leaves most Russians guessing at the meaning of many Ukrainian words. The grammar is however absolutely more Russian, than Polish.

PolAmKrakow
30 Jun 2022  #5928

@Bobko
All the repurposing of Russian war ships into submarines is really a rather sneaky way to increase the Russian advantage in numbers of soldiers killed and wounded. I understand they want to keep the lead and all but, sacrificing a ship to do it, is a little extreme if you ask me. But wow, what a strategy. Surely no one could have anticipated that one. Impressive Russian thinking for sure.

Bobko
30 Jun 2022  #5929

@PolAmKrakow

Better than the Polish submarine fleet, where all the wives and kids come to bid their husbands and fathers an eternal farewell before every new departure.

You did read about this, right? The abysmal state of Poland's sole submarine?

Paulina
30 Jun 2022  #5930

Imeant that the languages are similar enough you should be able to read it without translation - if Cyrillic letters do not break your brain.

Not really, it's a foreign language. The most similar to Polish language are other Western Slavic languages - Czech and Slovak. I know Cyrillic alphabet and I understand Russian to some extent, but, still, I'm not able to read an Ukrainian news article just like that. I actually understand Russian better, because I've studied it at school and I had more contact with it. Poles have to learn Ukrainian in order to be able to understand it, just like Ukrainians have to learn Polish in order to be able to understand it, even though there's apparently a lot of common vocabulary.

For example, I can read/understand this short article in Russian without putting it through Google Translate:

m.lenta.ru/news/2022/02/26/delete/

It's an article from February about Russian Roskomnadzor telling 10 media outlets to stop writing about civillians getting killed on Ukraine due to the shelling of the Russian army.

Wow, even InoSMI got a warning?? lol Who would've thought lol

PolAmKrakow
30 Jun 2022  #5931

@Bobko
LMAO, I dont GAF about the lone Polish sub. That was not the topic. The topic is Russia and the destruction of yet the third ship. Your military is a joke. You can't even beat Ukraine! Second best military in the world? More like outside of the top 5. I think Russia would struggle in a war with New Zealand at this point! lol

GefreiterKania
30 Jun 2022  #5932

lone Polish sub

Subs are pointless in the Baltic anyway. They should scrap it and buy some more anti-ship rockets - cheaper and more useful on the shallow lake that the Baltic Sea is.

jon357
30 Jun 2022  #5933

The Russians habe apparantly lost a landing craft near Mariupol through one of their own mines

Excellent. Hopefully with heavy casualties.

And they've fled from Snake Island with their tails between their legs. It had been regained by Ukraine

Novichok
30 Jun 2022  #5934

And they've fled from Snake Island with their tails between their legs.

Russia is winning.

Crow
30 Jun 2022  #5935

and NATO and EU losing.

God punished them for Maiden and ruination of UKRPOLBAT. Simple, released banderists in new nazi Ukraine couldn`t coexist with UKRPOLBAT.

Bratwurst Boy
30 Jun 2022  #5936

Russia is winning.

Lavrov is talking about a new Iron Curtain.....that isn't the talk of a winner!

Especially as the shock about such a thing is limited in the West. It sounds more like the pouting child threatening to seal itself in it's own room....most people could live with that if they leave the rest of the world alone at last.

(Interesting fact...Lavrov himself has family living the good life in the West...will they all be forced to come home to Russia in that case???)

But maybe in the end it might come to that....

Miloslaw
30 Jun 2022  #5937

@Bratwurst Boy

Nice post!

Novichok
30 Jun 2022  #5938

It sounds more like the pouting child

...who took 20% of the land and even more of the resources that came with the land.
From my POV, anyone who is against the globalist mafia, perverts, and woke intellectuals is a hero and a friend of mine. God put Putin on this earth for a reason.

Bratwurst Boy
30 Jun 2022  #5939

God put Putin on this earth for a reason.

Curious....last week it was all about to liberate Ukraine from them Nazis....what happened to that?

Miloslaw
30 Jun 2022  #5940

God put Putin on this earth for a reason.

Neither you or I believe in God, so that is a daft comment.

If we accept that there is some sort of universal power then Putin's reason for being is to make us all understand that freedom is invaluable and that dictators like him have to be crushed.


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