Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

Russia has stated a lot of things but: a) they are not stupid enough to believe their own propaganda - it's aimed at people like you; b) none of what they stated justifies the use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine. Sorry, gregy, you will have to try harder.

@gregy741
Their stating that just so they can use nukes legally... come on.

Check the list of NATO members: who exist vanished after joining it? Only state one can think of is Ygoslavia, and that stopped existing wether NATO existed or not. They should stop scapegoating their problems abroad...

Yet Serbia&Serbians still exist, no matter how much they cry wolf

So in other words, Russia would use a nuke even if it goes completely against their own doctrine?


I mean the war itself is already illegal under international law and Putin can do in Russia everything he wants.

first of all. you gotta understand ,there are different purpose nukes.some are merely designed to bust bunkers. not every nuke has strategical use of wiping population.

you run out of weapon and enemy army is at your gate,they will use it. maybe small ones first.
there is no good end for ukra in this war.the sooner they negotiate the better.
i dont know if using nukes is illegal. dont know whats the legal side of it.
there is Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons,but its voluntary

Aussie PM visits Ukraine.
Good behind the scenes reporting of what it takes to organise a state visit
abc.net.au/news/2022-07-04/anthony-albanese-visit-to-ukraine-secret-revealed-social-media/101205090

When has Russia ever honored agreements that come from negotiations?

There's no point in negotiating with proven liars with no honor.

How should someone negotiate with Putin at this point. He has not only broken every treaty and agreement he signed, he also broke treaties that had long been in effect before he came into office. His signature below a treaty would have the same worth as Ribbentrops' after 1941.

@gregy741
All nukes have at least 15% radiation fallout. There is no such thing yet as a pure hydrogen fusion bomb. H bombs are still currently a mixture of fusion and fission. Russia will not use one as it will effect their own citizens. They are currently dealing with the idiots sent into the red forest who came back to Russia sick from radiation poisoning. They dont want more to deal with.

@Tacitus
Yeah, but as shown, Putin&Co does not care about morality, laws or international laws but, he has to rationalise it somehow to "sell" it to the broader public and for his yappies to tout it dutifully everywhere regardless wether it's beliaveable, legal or not. They are using it as a signal in a form of submarine warfare to catch any hostile elements, they want people to oppose so as to find them, eliminate them or remove them from public eyes.

Standard commie tactic, they don't care that their lying. They are looking after honest truthful and strong headed young Russians everywhere possible to secure their powerholding.

They will lose the moment it's being questioned and rest of population becomes un-cooperative. That's why they try to instill fear and act as if they strike fear or scare outside forces, the moment Russians know that her neighbours are not afraid of Kremlin, ordinary Russians might stop fearing the Kremlin... it's very simple

fission material is only used to ignite fusion hydrogen chain reaction.
radioactive fallout comes from material from bomb. Hbomb has very little uranium /plutonium material. majority of material is "pumped up"hydrogen
almost zero fallout, hydrogen dont decay,thus dont produce radioactivity.
thats why fussion energy is ultimate green energy. no waste , side product is deuterium and helium

bro. you mixing blast radiation( waves of electromagnetic photons-gamma ray or x ray) with decaying of radioactive material.
go back to primary school learn the difference than discuss

@gregy741
There is no such fusion bomb as you explain it. It is theoretical only. Now discuss. And even if Russia had the breakthrough theory and made such a bomb it wouldnt be used in Ukraine. There is no threat to Russia's existence from Ukraine, only from itself.

well,imagine if ukra start winning big time, and stand at the gate of Crimea. well ,i dont know
it is you guys who support NATO ,saying that Putin is crazy and dying.
there was strange incident in Russia, some guy who had nuke codes committed suicide. flipping scary times

Why does the almost bankrupt Russian state waste money on trolling low usage message boards like this one ?

What am I missing ?

@gregy741
If the nukes get flying it is what it is. One nuke will make it rain more of them. Putin is a lot of things, but he does not want to be the one who ends Russia as it exists along with most of civilization. We got a long time before this is over.

All who say something that justify Russia are trolls and all who are pro-EU and pro-NATO are not trolls.

I thought the same! It was an interesting experience which taught me much....about humans....not at least Poles and Germans, heh:)


Pro-Putin artists, who openly support this invasion have still a difficult stand in Germany and even get often shunned....but it's more complicated with whole companies.


Maybe "venting" is a better word for that anyhow.....better than "hate"!

A good sign. Russians in Kherson looting truckloads of Ukrainian civilian goods.

twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1543878530508787712?t=qWBkXLIFkcZD-5Y98jTjMA&s=19

My opinion is that they are taking what they can get before they are forced out.
Ukrainian forces are within sniper range of Kherson.

NUKEMAP online simulator / select targets and effects



> youtube.com/watch?v=fKuA0c3OBiU

> nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

If we accept the fact that Putin has gone abit strange in the head then we must accept the possibility of him using (wanting to use) nukes in the end....

No matter rational things like treaties...consequences....reasons.

The biggest hope is that the people around him think more clearly and stop him in time.....a coup. After all its them and their families too who will pay the price of the worlds revenge.

Not only plan, but also cox and meth. ;) Probably it will be mixed together in August. ;)

In russian drug-addicts slang:
Plan - marijuana
Cox - cocaine
Meth - methamphetamine

It would take more than that to make dying Putler's foul brain to work.


Hard to imagine any orchestra or opera company doing r*ssian stuff at the moment. There wouldn't be the audience for it.

@Crow
Belgrade go boom

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Names and the amounts.

@Velund
Even tho I am very anti-addictions

I must say that's most positive side of you I have seen so far, the humour bit without being nasty.

Cudos

Almost none.

People were very particular about cultural performances during wartime, as they are now during r*ssia's illegal invasion.


No such thing. That's a lame conspiracy theory from the crazier sort of Americans.


It isn't 'occupied'by England or anywhere else and in case you haven't noticed, more than half the people there support the status quo. You'll not find much Shakespeare among the green ones and you'd not find any Byrd at all among the orange ones since he was a composer of religious music that they don't like. Probably plenty at the Catholic cathedral though

Also contacts of person who should pay me and Bobko our hard earned rubles... ;) ;) It is not easiest thing on earth even to read this thread. ;)

You must be relieved that Russia aka Russian Federation is not involved.

So don't.

I will make it easy and maybe even pleasant for you and Bobko. Here we go:

Russia is winning and the global cabal is losing. Also:

PF Russia haters are getting ulcers while bottom fishing for more insults.

Feel better now?