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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



PolAmKrakow
6 May 2022  #1051

@pawian
When the Russians run out of tanks, missiles, and other ordinance they will attack NATO with sticks and stones. This will be about as effective as the attempt to take Kiev. More fertilizer will be added to NATO lands in the form of Russian soldiers, and wheat will be planted to replace the wheat being stolen by Russians in Ukraine now. Putin will then be put on trial as a war criminal and subjected to public hanging. It will be a beautiful scene.

Korvinus
6 May 2022  #1052

Project "Russian Collapse" has failed,

You vatniks are so impatient people. The sanctions have only been in place for 60 days (most packages even shorter than that). Let's see what happens after a year or two. How many factories will still be operational without sanctioned components, how much oil will be extracted without the know-how of Western companies.

Sanctions introduced after the annexation of Crimea contributed to shrinking Russian GDP from 2059 billions $ in 2014 to 1483 billions $ in 2020. A quarter of economy evaporated over 7 years.

Those sanctions weren't lifted and countless more were added. Most European countries will resign from resource imports from Russia within the next 2 years. Still years before pipelines to China can be finished.

Cherish the current value of the ruble, heroicly restored thanks to losts of financial mumbo jumbo. Soon it will deteriorate with the rest of Russian economy.

Velund
6 May 2022  #1053

A quarter of economy evaporated over 7 years.

Are you sure that all that decline is really "evaporated economy"? As I can see, many of changes is just stopped manufacturing of disposable items, i.e. grinding of natural resources, from ore right to dumps, just to show bigger numbers in bankster computers. And replacement of expensive imports with cheaper domestic equivalents.

Yes, "liberasts" publicly crying that upgrades of their iPhones come slower and slower... Most normal people just laughing about this.

GefreiterKania
6 May 2022  #1054

Meanwhile, russian soldiers who received orders to go to Ukraine are suing their army...

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10787001/Russian-soldiers-challenge-illegal-order-fight-Ukraine-sacked-refusing.html

... xD

pawian
6 May 2022  #1055

Yes, and Bobko or another RuSSist here nonsensically claimed that RuSSia can mobilise 18 million men. It seems they and probably the current RuSSist leadership forgot what happened in 1917 when Russians didn`t want to fight in the already lost war. REVOLUTION! hahaha

Putin will then be put on trial as a war criminal

RuSSists have no choice if they want to have sanctions lifted.

jon357
6 May 2022  #1056

The sanctions have only been in place for 60 days

Exactly. It's barely hot them at all yet. When it does, they will feel it.

russian soldiers who received orders to go to Ukraine are suing their army...

If they do a GM (russia said they won't, which of course is an indication that they will) it will involve closing borders. A lot of russians of military age have fled russia since they know that a horrible screaming death awaits them in Ukraine while Putler relaxes with his pole-dancing whóres in one of his palaces or superyachts.

There are some unconfirmed reports that the shiny new frigate 'Admiral Makarov', a key part of the russian Black Sea Fleet may have been repurposed by Ukraine as a submarine. I hope this is true.

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1057

And replacement of expensive imports with cheaper domestic equivalents.

I'm not sure if I remember it right, but I think I've read in one article that one of the reasons for poor condition of Russian military (old tanks being used) were sanctions imposed on Russia after 2014. Russia had problems with producing new military stuff and instead had to focus on renovating what was already in use or sth like that. It's not this article, but it gives you some info about those sanctions:

armscontrol.org/act/2014-09/news/us-eu-sanction-russia%E2%80%99s-arms-sector

So, wasn't Russia able to replace Western components with cheaper ones for 8 years?

And here's an article about the impact on Russian military industry of 2022 sanctions imposed on Russia after the invasion on Ukraine:

money.pl/gospodarka/wielki-problem-putina-rosjanie-niedlugo-moga-nie-miec-czym-walczyc-6758607150824064a.html

pawian
6 May 2022  #1058

have been repurposed by Ukraine as a submarine

:):):)
Won`t Americans consider it a violation of US -RuSS treaties on the amount of submarines each country can possess? If I was Biden, I would protest against such illegal strengthening of the RuSSist underwater fleet....

hhahahaha

Bratwurst Boy
6 May 2022  #1059

Meanwhile, russian soldiers who received orders to go to Ukraine are suing their army...

They will need asylum....

EU countries should give asylum to Russian deserters: Charles Michel

euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/06/ukraine-war-eu-countries-should-give-asylum-to-russian-deserters-says-charles-michel

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1060

@BB, I agree with Charles Michel.

'"If you want no part in killing your Ukrainian brothers and sisters, if you don't want to be a criminal, drop your arms, stop fighting, leave the battlefield," said Michel, who represents the bloc's governments.'

Especially that family members of oppositionists are being conscripted and forced to fight in Ukraine (of course in the areas where the worst fighting is taking place).

Miloslaw
6 May 2022  #1061

the shiny new frigate 'Admiral Makarov', a key part of the russian Black Sea Fleet may have been repurposed by Ukraine as a submarine

HaHaHaHa!!!!

If I was Biden, I would protest against such illegal strengthening of the RuSSist underwater fleet....

HaHaHaHa!!!!

jon357
6 May 2022  #1062

I would protest against such illegal strengthening of the RuSSist underwater fleet

Soon they will have nothing left.

Did you hear President Zelenskiy's address last night? It was one of his best.

Bravery is rightly believed the first of human qualities as it guarantees all others.
Thank you, Britain!
Thank you, Boris!
Thank you all!
Glory to Ukraine!

president.gov.ua/en/news/zvernennya-prezidenta-volodimira-zelenskogo-do-uchasnikiv-bl-74821

Crnogorac3
6 May 2022  #1063

In Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, the occupiers are replacing road signs. They remove signs in Ukrainian (with transliteration in English) and replace them with those in Russian.

M

Snigirevka, the first city in the Nikolaev region that the Russians have taken since the beginning of the special operation...

t.me/boris_rozhin/47085

Russian tank working smoothly and undisturbedly...

youtu.be/t4uHWPH5JkI

Nowhere are the Javelins to answer...
There aren't any of them lately...

s

youtu.be/z3G55tuHrxk

Holy Mary Mother of God,
have they lined them up.

twitter.com/NovichokRossiya/status/1522302261346582530

Meanwhile, russian soldiers who received orders to go to Ukraine

They captured one platoon...

A day of mourning at the dormitory for the team
"Slava Ukraini".

jon357
6 May 2022  #1064

They captured one platoon

And killed 26,000 with many more to join them...

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1065

Russian tank working smoothly and undisturbedly...

Thank you for showing us one Russian tank working smoothly and undisturbedly ;D

youtu.be/z3G55tuHrxk

Why are those tankers covering their faces? Are they ashamed of something?

Bratwurst Boy
6 May 2022  #1066

@BB, I agree with Charles Michel.

*nods*

Me too....we should make it easy for them to desert!

Tarring them all with the same inhuman Putin-Orc-brush won't encourage them....

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1067

In Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, the occupiers are replacing road signs. They remove signs in Ukrainian (...) and replace them with those in Russian.

The Nazis were doing the same in Polish territories they occupied - they were changing the names from Polish to German.

cms neuf
6 May 2022  #1068

The tank crews need to cover their faces - IG and FB data is being collected and Schengen visas will never be available to these murderers, even in 20 years time. Holidays on Lake Baikal for the rest of their lives

jon357
6 May 2022  #1069

The tank crews need to cover their faces

Facial facial recognition software is working very well in this war. Many of them have been tracked down already.

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1070

@cms neuf

@jon357

Nice :)

👍

johnny reb
6 May 2022  #1071

Facial facial recognition software is working very well in this war.

Yes, run by the Americans who give the info to Ukraine.
How do you think all those Russian generals were found and killed ?
Same with Russia's flag ship that the Ukrainians sunk.
Where do you think the information came from to help sink it.
If you said, "from the Americans," you would be correct.

cms neuf
6 May 2022  #1072

I saw one of them was an Electronic Warfare general - sounds fancy but in reality he is just the poor sap who has to make sure Rich and Crno"s 20 year old Dells get mended and supply them with bitter coffee

jon357
6 May 2022  #1073

Nice :)

Indeed. Very very nice. And one of the best things is that the main facial recognition software that they're using to track the orcs down, FindClone, is actually from a russian company. Poetic justice.

And more good news is that it's confirmed, the Admiral Makarov is on fire about to join the Moskva on the sea bed, after having been located by an intel flight from the U.K. The media yesterday described it as "the juiciest prize in the Black Sea". That prize has now been won.

johnny reb
6 May 2022  #1074

Oh the irony.......
Russia is screwed right now in building anymore ships of that size.
Throughout the Soviet era and for years after the USSR's collapse, Russia acquired its big marine engines from Ukraine.
Poetic justice.

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1075

Yes, run by the Americans who give the info to Ukraine.
How do you think all those Russian generals were found and killed ?

Yup:

o2.pl/informacje/tajemnica-sukcesu-ukraincow-klucz-lezy-za-atlantykiem-6763100667489088a

Glory to USA! :D

the main facial recognition software that they're using to track the orcs down, FindClone, is actually from a russian company. Poetic justice.

That's nice... But there were Bosch made parts found in Russian tanks destroyed in Ukraine and Swedish companies were selling components to Russia for production of it's nuclear weapons... The same nuclear weapons with which Russia is threatening the destruction of Western cities now! The EU has to stop with this sh1t.

jon357
6 May 2022  #1076

Glory to USA! :D

Yes. Thank you President Joe!

The EU has to stop with this sh1t.

Exactly. Have you been following the scandal about kill switches? Certain armaments (Exocet missiles) sold by France had kill switches to be used of a buyer every went to war with them. They didn't however tell their allies when Argentina invaded the Falklands and British citizens were killed by French Exocet missiles that could have been switched off.

The implication of the story (and the reason it's in the news now) is that weapons supplied to russia by certain European countries who were arming them even after the invasion started may have kill switches now and could be prevented from causing damage to targets in Ukraine. The two governments involved in supplying russia are so far keeping schtum on this, despite the casualties.

It seems that continued profit for their arms companies I'ds worth far more to them than freedom or Ukrainian lives.

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1077

@jon357, no, I haven't read about that kill switches scandal...

The two governments involved in supplying russia are so far keeping schtum on this, despite the casualties.

The governments of which countries are those?

jon357
6 May 2022  #1078

which countries

The original reports were about French missiles with the implication that other arms suppliers to russia are doing the same.

It's worth reading about. Very sad if true.

Novichok
6 May 2022  #1079

The US, by providing the means and the information, is co-responsible for the murders of Russian generals. I would not be surprised if the FSB started doing this to those they don't like in Western "democracies". They could use Polonium 210 or Novichok, for example, or the Lee Oswald approach.

Paulina
6 May 2022  #1080

@Novichok, don't be ridiculous, those are not "murders". Those Russian generals were killed on a battlefield during a war on a foreign, hostile territory (invaded by those Russian generals), not in Russia in their beds at home.

I would not be surprised if the FSB started doing this to those they don't like in Western "democracies".

That would be murder. Assassination even.


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