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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



pawian
7 May 2022  #1201

decommunized.

Lies. It is quite the opposite. RuSSists bring back old Lenin statues in the territories they are currently occupying. And they put old Soviet flags everywhere.

they die so soon these days...

Russists have to hurry to love their generals - they leave so quickly.... :)::):)

Paulina
7 May 2022  #1202

where would you draw the red line if you were advising

First and foremost my advice for Russia would be to make friends with NATO and Russia's neighbours. There's no surest way to be safe than to be surrounded by real, honest friends, rather than by scared and bullied former victims.

Russists have to hurry to love their generals - they leave so quickly.... :)::):)

Indeed!

Korvinus
7 May 2022  #1203

lecturing Russian General Staff

Yep The West would need to dedicate 3% of their income to fully counter Russia going full on wartime police state, war economy WWII style, war of attrition is a war that Russia absolutely can't win.

BTW how many generals did RU lost till now?

Strzelec35
7 May 2022  #1204

maf again i told you just how similar they are or polish people to russia and how nationalist and fascist they are deep down yet hypocritical. read the comment section here in polish to find out if you dont believe me:

facebook.com/106325766657/posts/10158941958511658/

Novichok
7 May 2022  #1205

First and foremost my advice for Russia would be to make friends with NATO and Russia's neighbours.

Playing stupid? Russia wanted to join NATO and was rejected. If you ask, I will tell you why.
Having hard time with that red line?

war of attrition is a war that Russia absolutely can't win.

As opposed to the brilliant US army that won in Vietnam and Afghanistan. That was sarcasm.
Before you say something equally profound, ask Putin what his objectives are.

PolAmKrakow
7 May 2022  #1206

@Novichok
No you retard, Putin asked Clinton if he thought Russia could join NATO. Russia never said they wanted to or would apply. Clinton laughed at him, as the rest of the world laughs at Putin now. Russia, is evil in the war of good an evil. No one wants Russia or Russians. Until the animals are dead, they will always be on the outside. You, like Russia are a dinosaur. The later being extinct and the former soon to follow. Happy gulag POS.

Paulina
7 May 2022  #1207

@Novichok, Russia never formally applied for NATO membership, even though there were some attempts at cooperation. In 1997 NATO and Russia agreed to form the NATO-Russia Founding Act and they also founded the NATO-Russian Discussion Council in 2002.

You don't have to be a member of NATO to be friends with NATO though. Look at Finland:

nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49594.htm

pawian
7 May 2022  #1208

that would have been their typical article before the russian invasion ;)

I suspect you have come back to your traditional lies and manipulations which you had abundantly littered the forum with before the RuSS invasion. That is why I would like you to prove what you have just written. :):):)

jon357
7 May 2022  #1209

Old news maybe since it was mentioned here 2 days ago, but very good news since it's now independently confirmed as of this pm that the Russian's so-called invincible T-90M tank "Breakthrough-3 tank, their newest and best has had its first outing and has been destroyed. They ave apparently 99 more to be destroyed and cannot replace them.

In other good news, the russians are being pushed back hard in the north east and are shortly to be out of artillery range of Kharkiv.

Ukraine is also attacking Snake Island, one of the ruSSists first targets and strategically essential to them. And Mariupol has not yet fallen.

Putler's 'victory parade' might be a little embarrassing this year, given that he's had no victories. Slava Ukraini. Heroyom Slava.

mafketis
7 May 2022  #1210

Meanwhile in Moscow, young women dance in the street while being filmed (completely legal) and cops with machine guns decide to arrest them.

This is what the Putin groupies here are in favor of.

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1523042585119367168

A few years ago, Polish firefighters helped put out massive wildfires in the Moscow areas.

Now, half of Siberia is on fire, and help is not wanted (sorry serfs the Tsar doesn't care about your lives or property).

Why does Russia hate other countries so much?

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1521157398840463374

Miloslaw
7 May 2022  #1211

Why does Russia hate other countries so much?

Because they have a huge inferiority complex.

Rightly deserved.

pawian
7 May 2022  #1212

Why does Russia hate other countries so much?

Russist leaders propagate hatred as a means of controling their own society. And as a means of justifying their own pathetic incompetence. They say to Russians: Look - we can`t raise your standard of living coz that trecherous West is incessantly trying to destroy RuSSia so we have to build up our defences instead of providing sewage system to millions of households.

Crow
7 May 2022  #1213

Plan is great.

(sorry serfs the Tsar doesn't care about your lives or property

Boris, Biden, Francis or Sholz would care better of you. They will give many nice things to you. So be wise and get rid of Putin.

ahahahaha hahahaha hahahahah

ahahah

Paulina
7 May 2022  #1214

It looks like there's some awesome news, guys - all civillians from Azovstal have been evacuated according to Ukraine and Russia:

bbc.com/news/world-europe-61362557

"The operation began a week ago, co-ordinated by the UN and Red Cross, which have not confirmed the news."

ahahahaha hahahaha hahahahah

Are you alright, Crow? lol

Miloslaw
7 May 2022  #1215

Russist leaders propagate hatred as a means of controling their own society

Spot on!

Plan is great

Really?

Seems to be failing right now..... Go lick more Russian bums.....that is what Serbs are
created for.

Novichok
7 May 2022  #1216

Russia never formally applied for NATO membership,

Dear Paulina, no country "formally applies" until all the behind-closed-doors discussions are done and all the boxes are checked. Duh! Can you spell "humiliation"?
The talks another Russia hater here mentioned are called exploratory. It's like can we meet for coffee before will you marry me.

BTW, how are you doing with that red line for NATO eastward crawl? At least, is it west or east of Moscow?

Also, as a woman, what part of Putin's no is too hard to understand? Do you see any ambiguity in: No! Ukraine will not be in NATO! Not now. Not ever.

Maybe I am overlooking some fine print in the above but it sure doesn't look very complicated to figure out what he meant. Or should we ask Lyzko?

johnny reb
8 May 2022  #1217

Reality is starting to set in.
Russia's military industrial complex is in panic over low salaries, mass layoffs.

amiga500
8 May 2022  #1218

That is why I would like you to prove what you have just written. :):):)

Hah! You are not so expert in english as you think you are, Mr hot shot village teacher, please look up the definition of facetious remark in the dictionary, and you will see that I am exempt from your requirements :)

There was plenty of PO luminaries calling Polish Border guards dogs, heartless, cruel, inhumane etc etc and i'm sure that translated into the PO mouthpiece that is newsweak Poland, it sure made it onto Onet opinion pieces. But now they are all thankfully silent.

I wonder if after a year or two of war, and Polish peacekeepers are sent into Ukraine, under a NATO umbrella, there will be less political polsko-polska wojna?

Hope dies last. :)

PolAmKrakow
8 May 2022  #1219

@Paulina
Novi of course knows all the procedures for NATO membership, so he is obviously the expert on how membership is obtained. You know, even though we are watching the whole process take place with Finland and Sweden. This is a guy who just said "no" means "no" basically, yet supports a military that rapes women and children. Super intelligent and lends so much to the conversation.

Now, when Russia's army continues to have the wheels fall off, sometimes quite literally, we will get a great display of power in Moscow. The show will be spectacular, as all final shows usually are just before they get cancelled. This is likely Putins last big May 9th celebration, so a year from now we wont have to read all the @$$ licking Putin supporters writing. Like old Nazi's who hid in Brazil, the little Putin wannabe supporters, will find new places to post that are more supportive to restoring Russia from the $hi* hole it has become.

amiga500
8 May 2022  #1220

so a year from now we wont have to read all the @$$ licking Putin supporters writing.

Unf with Novi he will just switch from Putin to supporting Xi/China or North Korea or maybe even Nazi Germany. Anything to troll and get attention. Did you see Jon's post that in real life Novi is democratic party supporter, frequently FB posting anti-racist initiatives, pro migration stuff? cute kittens and flowers too. Massive Lolz

Novichok
8 May 2022  #1221

yet supports a military that rapes women and children.

Why don't you keep your mental disorders private and quit projecting... Where the fu*ck did I say that I support anyone who rapes women and children? Look up "support" before using the word again.

he will just switch from Putin to supporting Xi or Sholz/Macron

Just to prove you right, here we go...I am impressed with those who put their countries first. That includes Putin, Xi, Sholz, Macron, and Orban.

Now you can claim that you can predict the future. Nostradamus 2.0. No, Biden is not on the list.

amiga500
8 May 2022  #1222

Russian generals ducking for cover according to u.k defence minister.

"Russian generals are "turning in on themselves" because the war in Ukraine is not going to plan, the defence secretary said today." "There is a point of tension in the system. As much as they respect the former KGB man [Putin] for being a strong leader, the Russian general staff are going to be made scapegoats for his mess.

"He [Putin] would be foolish, potentially, to blame Gerasimov and the other generals for what is predominantly a politically, emotive-driven invasion defying all logic. It's a political decision he took, not a military one, and he needs to wear that decision."

archive.ph/9Z8jN#selection-1035.0-1049.260

Reminds me of that meme where putin asks the russian generals.
P: General Gerasimov, Tell me how the war is going in one word
G: Good.
P: Excellent! Now tell me how the war is going in two words
G: Not good.

Novichok
8 May 2022  #1223

because the war in Ukraine is not going to plan,

They learn quickly. The US morons needed 20 years. So who is smarter?

mafketis
8 May 2022  #1224

, as NATO, the snake, crawls east

Putin propaganda that assumes that countries bordering Russia should simply accept that Russia will periodically invade, break and steal stuff and kill citizens.

NATO was invited East because the coutnries that know Russia best.... don't like being periodically invaded, broken and stolen from or having their citizens killed.

Why is this so hard to understand? Neither Russia nor you seem capable of grasping this simple idea....

Paulina
8 May 2022  #1225

A journalist Dean Kirby was able to identify 66 filtration camps in Russia to which Ukrainian refugees are being sent under duress, many from Mariupol:

o2.pl/informacje/wzial-pod-lupe-tzw-obozy-filtracyjne-wyniki-sa-szokujace-6766549753375552a

In English:

twitter.com/deankirby_/status/1522853987099324416?s=20&t=IEIf4PUvxobH2mpPVBzFzw

"Russian activists have also told me that while Ukrainians who want to get out of Russia are able to walk out of the camps, their remoteness and lack of money or documents means they face an almost impossible task to leave the country."

amiga500
8 May 2022  #1226

how is kalingrad being supplied with supplies food, consumer goods etc at the moment?

jon357
8 May 2022  #1227

"Russian generals are "turning in on themselves" because the war in Ukraine is not going to plan

And bizarrely being sent to the front due to russia's poor command structure.

And here is a lovely clip of a russian transport helicopter being neutralised by Ukrainian drones on Snake Island last night:
twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1523194469771841538


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Atch
8 May 2022  #1228

I see that all the women, children and elderly have now been evacuated from Azovstal.

I believe that Putin cooperated with the evacuation because he will now wipe out the Azovstal plant entirely- a small nuke would do it. He didn't want to risk nuking civilians - not yet anyway - but he could chance his arm with soldiers. An added confirmation that it's possible is Russia's denial on Friday that they will use nuclear weapons. As we all know, they're bare-faced liars. The moment they deny something, you know they did it or intend to do it.

It would be easier to just leave the soldiers to die of starvation, dehydration, gangerene and sepsis and of course the Russians would enjoy that very much but Putin needs something for 9 May.

Any views, anybody?

johnny reb
8 May 2022  #1229

Yes, Putin will change his "Special Operations" statis to War statis which will allow him to call up his reserves.

PolAmKrakow
8 May 2022  #1230

@amiga500
Tearing little guppies apart can be fun sometimes. But I will try not to make a habit of it. Bullies need to be bullied back or they will abuse people. Old men who can not do anything personally are typical of online bullies.

@Atch
Putin is running out of options. He has to do something drastic because Russia can not sustain the losses much longer. They do not have a force big enough to occupy or hold temporarily the regions they are in now. Eventually Ukraine will over power and take them back.


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