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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



jon357
8 May 2022  #1231

a small nuke would do it. He didn't want to risk nuking civilians - not yet anyway

This is possible. Commentators, including those who hold armed forces roles or political office, have gone from saying that this is highly unlikely to suggesting that it is a possibility. Putler knows however where such an escalation is likely to lead. One tactical nuke is quite literally world-changing.

A General Mobilisation is possible, however it would take months to recruit and train troops, and of course russia still uses paper records, blazing merrily in their army recruitment centres

Paulina
8 May 2022  #1232

Any views, anybody?

I remember reading that Russians need that area (not Mariupol itself) to cut off Ukraine from the sea. Still, to hold that area they'll have to occupy the city. It wouldn't be smart to contaminate the area you have to occupy with nuclear fallout.

One tactical nuke is quite literally world-changing.

Yes, nukes haven't been used in a conflict since WWII. I think it's rather unlikely that Russians would use a nuke to kill off a remnant of defenders in a city that was pretty much taken already anyway. It would be like killing a fly with an RPG-7. Pretty insane. Not to mention, as you already wrote - world-changing.

pawian
8 May 2022  #1233

.I am impressed with those who put their countries first. That includes Putin

That is funny you really believe it. It is Putin who is actually turning his own country and people into wasteland.

Crnogorac3
8 May 2022  #1234

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DAMN!!! THIS AFU VEHICLE NEVER MADE IT TO ITS DESTINATION: AMBUSHED BY SPETSNAZ (18+++)

bitchute.com/video/HVuuV7ezojZI/

MORE AMERICAN MERCENARY CASUALTIES IN UKRAINE

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Hamerican szahids of the international LGBT+ George Soros brigades fertilized the lands of Novorussia successfully.

NEW HORRIFIC AFU LOSSES - 5/8 EDITION (18+++)

bitchute.com/video/XL8j0ebMghtL/

It would be easier to just leave the soldiers to die of starvation, dehydration, gangerene and sepsis

SICK AZOVS ROTTING AWAY IN AZOVSTAL BUNKER

bitchute.com/video/v2V80DeesNMa/

PolAmKrakow
8 May 2022  #1235

Putin has just recalled 60,000 troops from Syria to go to Ukraine. This is clearly the act of a desperate person. He knows its going so badly he is willing to abandon Assad who is one of his biggest allies. When dictators can not support other puppet dictators, that means only one thing, that there is trouble at home.

Atch
8 May 2022  #1236

It wouldn't be smart to contaminate the area you have to occupy with nuclear fallout.

It wasn't very smart to fire missiles at Chernobyl and take over the nuclear power station, refusing to allow the workers to leave and forcing them to carry on without rest for days when their shifts should have changed. Since when has Russia demonstrated an ounce of intelligence in their handling of anything. Bungling incompetents.

SICK AZOVS ROTTING AWAY IN AZOVSTAL BUNKER

As opposed to sick Russians, rotting away in Belarusian hospitals, minus, arms, legs, eyes and ears according to the doctors there.

Tacitus
8 May 2022  #1237

Bungling incompetents.

I don't think it is just incompetence. Those in command just don't care about the lifes lost by those actions. They wanted to take the territory, and when people needlessly die, so be it.

Hamerican szahids of the international LGBT+ George Soros brigades

You really can't make this up;)

Cojestdocholery
8 May 2022  #1238

Assad

Why would be Assad under attack in the first place? They should live them them alone in those Arab countries. Thjey don't know 'democtracy' and in any case there are two choices an authoritarian ruler or democrasy and militan Islamists in charge.

Like You have both in Saudi Arabia, you have a dictatorship in Dubai, Why attack Libia and now Syria? Wheren't they the most 'progressive' Arab countries? France and Britian just made that region into the mess it is. Those counrties are respossible for 2015 migration and for what happeing now with that middle east migrants.

By the way Iran is a democratic country ( they are not Arabs but a real counrty like Persia ) as much as it can be in this region and with islam, not liberal but liberal is on it way out anyway. Why cross this country to please the Israel lobby in the USA?

Putin is not a dictator that a lame term. He doesn't belong to our civilization he is Russian leader their chef, top man, warleader = Tsar. He is Russia and Russia is him. That has been laways the case. Russia = Moscow. Not to confuse it with Belarusan or Ukrainians.

Rus are not Russian, like east Franks are not French. Rus meaning Moscow and other -rusan people had been apart longer than it took Franks to develop into French and Germans.

Hamerican szahids of the international LGBT+ George Soros brigades
You really can't make this up;)

That just nail it. Apart from the fact that German goverment support that movement insdie the USA with money. Why would Germany lobby LGBT, gender brigades in the USA? Are they crazy lefties or what o weaken USA?

jon357
8 May 2022  #1239

Putin has just recalled 60,000 troops from Syria to go to Ukraine

They'll be knackered, underequipped and ready for the meat grinder.

Thjey don't know 'democtracy' and

They're tribal societies with consensus rule. Best to let that develop rather than interfere. Most do well on their own.

LGBT, gender brigades

Whatever that means. Mostly just a distraction to rile up the insecure and not realise that authoritarian right-wing populists like Putler and his backers are the real enemy.

Velund
8 May 2022  #1240

Polish President Andrzej Duda has officially acknowledged his territorial claims against Ukraine. The masks have been dropped. He declared that there would no longer be a border between Poland and Ukraine for decades, or even centuries.

O, sancta simplicitas!

He chose the more than appropriate occasion for this statement - the Day of National Constitution. The national consciousness of the Poles clearly gained strength against the background of the deepest crisis in the neighboring country, worn out by the bastard rule of the Kiev regime. And with it the territorial appetite is steadily growing.

Western Ukraine will be a welcome acquisition for the land-hungry Poland. Of course, under the veil of beautiful words about eternal brotherhood. But what the resigned Ukrainian neighbor will not fall for an illusory dream of a happy life under the umbrella of the European Union.

However, we should not delude ourselves and indulge in vain daydreams. Whatever spells Duda uttered, we are talking about the de facto annexation by Poland of the territories of Western Ukraine. The ground is being probed slowly but surely. The phantom pains of former greatness that have plagued Poles for centuries have not disappeared. The task is simple - to regain their coveted historical lands, under the guise of aggressive anti-Russian rhetoric and false mantras about common happiness with "borderless" Ukraine. To avenge the numerous partitions of Poland.

It is clear that this imaginary brotherhood will bring Ukrainians nothing but the permanent loss of their statehood.
Or maybe that's just what they want.

For information:
Duda's ancestors are Ukrainians from the Lvov region. The great-uncle of Polish President Michael Duda is a legendary figure for Ukrainian neo-Nazis. He was born in 1921 into a family of ardent Ukrainian nationalists. Duda's older comrade in school and in life was Stepan Bandera. At the age of 16, he joined the banned OUN. In 1939, he studied sabotage and terrorism in Hitler's Germany together with Roman Shukhevich. Since 1941 actively "worked" with punitive battalion of the Abwehr "Roland", after its disbandment in October 1941 until the end of 1942 served in 201st guard police battalion. In the ranks of the UPA since 1943, he appeared primarily as an instructor in the non-commissioned officer school. In May 1944 he was in the Peremyshl Foothills and in the Bieszczady as a coroner. Since August 1945, he was commander of the hundred "Udarniki 3", belonging to the kuren "Udarniki", under the command of "Baida". During the fall of 1945 through the winter of 1946. Duda took part in battles with the Poles, was wounded twice, and on October 22, 1945 was seriously wounded during an attack on the town of Birch. On June 14, 1947, Duda's company crossed the Polish-Czechoslovakian border and broke through Czechoslovakia and Austria into the American occupation zone in Germany.

On May 31, 1950, he commanded a group of 4 couriers, which the British secret service landed on Soviet territory near Bolekhov. During a parachute jump, Duda landed unsuccessfully on a tree, breaking his leg. On July 7, 1950, together with another paratrooper, he was surrounded by an MGB pursuit group and after a short battle both committed suicide.

Novichok
8 May 2022  #1241

Putin is not a dictator; that is a lame term.

Wow! A rare voice of reason among poets.

NATO will never admit Russia as a member because NATO needs an enemy to justify its existence. Just like DEA needs drug smugglers, women's shelters need abused women, and police need criminals.

In the US, Russia is a punching bag for all occasions - explaining why we pay twice as much for things included. They, Russia, even elect US presidents! Talk about raw power! Those Russians must be 10 feet tall...

My best explanation for all of this is that Russia is not part of the globalist Soros-style cabal. An unpardonable sin...

Atch
8 May 2022  #1242

Polish President Andrzej Duda has officially acknowledged his territorial claims against Ukraine.

First of all, he's not a supreme dictator. 'He' doesn't have any claims on anything.

we are talking about is the de facto annexation by Poland of the territories of Western Ukraine.

Maybe Russian nutters are talking about it, but nobody in Poland is. God Almighty, what century do you live in? Just because Russia lives in the 19th century and declares de facto war on neighbouring countries, don't judge Europe by your standards.

Novichok
8 May 2022  #1243

declares de facto war on neighbouring countries,

What part of "no" did Z not understand? Was that "no" different from "No, you can't bring that stuff to Cuba, Mr. Kruschev..."

Cojestdocholery
8 May 2022  #1244

Duda's ancestors are Ukrainians from the Lvov region.

lol!
That is not the case. People from there had been intermixed for centuries. Who is what depends on their choices in life not on their blood relations. I guess that Russian propaganda is rather simple here or do they depend on simpleminded fools?

Polish President Andrzej Duda has officially acknowledged his territorial claims against Ukraine.

lol!sure, sure!
Isn't that what Moscow wanted? Give Poland some scraps and then blame Poland for everything? Get lost to Asia where you belong!

Western Ukraine will be a welcome acquisition for the land-hungry Poland.

Nobody wants those lands. Yes Lwów and some lands there are Polish lands there is no question about it.
To have a war to get it, and alienate Ukraine that after some time found its footing - no! Poland had been waitied for them to wake up and smell the coffee for 100 years. We have thought that our borders would be somewhat diffrent to what we have now but thanks to Stalin and Moscow we have what we have and that has to be good enough.

We don't need to own those lands, or run them from Warsaw. They just came or will into a modern day realisation what the first RP really was.

The Greatness of Russia is to take everything over and change it into ****! You are like legndary anti-Midas. Everything you touch turn into sh..t! You would laugh but it is really sad.

What Poland really needs and what Poland really should take as a terriorial redress it is Królewiec with the land around it.

amiga500
8 May 2022  #1245

we are talking about the de facto annexation by Poland of the territories

Yes you are correct, but you got the territory wrong. In due course Kalingrad will be annexxed into Poland and Lithuania. ahahha

jon357
8 May 2022  #1246

Polish President Andrzej Duda has officially acknowledged

No he hasn't. Don't lie.

Nobody wants those lands

Exactly. Lviv is a Ukrainian city now, and there is no significant irredentist movement in Poland.

And Poland has done a lot in this war to help Ukraine; they don't want to partition it.

amiga500
8 May 2022  #1247

@velund i see you have stopped talking about the invasion and are now talking about great uncles and poland, things must be going really bad?!

The Wagner Group linked Teiegram channel is whining that Russia has lost Snake Island and that even the last group of Special Forces sent in to evacuate survivors was wiped out. oops! karma is bi*ch!

pawian
8 May 2022  #1248

.I am impressed with those who put their countries first. That includes Putin

That is funny you really believe it. It is Putin who is actually turning his own country and people into wasteland.

you will see that I am exempt from your requirements :)

I teased you about it coz I knew you wouldn`t be able to prove your stinking lies. :):):) So you again proved you are a liar.

GefreiterKania
8 May 2022  #1249

The Russian invasion will not stop until it reaches the Polish border, according to Pyotr Tolstoy

thetimes.co.uk/article/russia-wont-stop-until-it-reaches-poland-says-tolstoys-great-great-grandson-q58tqf5rr

Someone should tell him that it's already 3 months of the war and the russian army couldn't even take Харків, right across the border, and they are dreaming of Львів. :)

Novichok
8 May 2022  #1250

And Poland has done a lot in this war to help Ukraine;

Poland should be proud now that it de facto became bilingual. Forever.
Not to be called racist or xenophobic, the gates are now open wide to all. That monochromatic and oh-so-boring population will soon be a distant memory and Western Europe will so very happy to share the experience. How many TV channels are in Ukrainian so far?

jon357
8 May 2022  #1251

Russia has lost Snake Island

This is massively significant.

Pyotr Tolstoy

His great great grandfather would be spinning in his grave.

Someone should tell him that it's already 3 months of the war

The "special operation" that was supposed to last 3 days.

And Mariupol still hasn't fallen...

GefreiterKania
8 May 2022  #1252

Poland should be proud now that it de facto became bilingual. Forever.

Brilliant! Poland was the strongest when she was multicultural, encompassing the lands of today's Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine. When the communists turned her into a boring monocultural country she lost a lot of her former charm. :)

How many TV channels are in Ukrainian so far?

There are 9 Ukrainian channels if you have Polsat Box Go (which, by the way, I recommend): Ukraina24, Ukraine 1, Ukraine 2, XSport, Star Cinema, Star Family, FilmUA Drama, NLO TV2 and Dacza. I watch them sometimes on weekends - good TV. :)

Novichok
8 May 2022  #1253

And Mariupol still hasn't fallen...

The last time I saw it it was flat. That was a Polish metaphor.

There are 9 Ukrainian channels

Has Nowy Swiat been renamed to Новий Cвіт yet?

GefreiterKania
8 May 2022  #1254

Has Nowy Swiat been renamed to Новий Cвіт yet?

Not that I know of. And no, your funny attempts at driving a wedge between Poles and our Ukrainian brothers and sisters will not be successful - we are now like family, united against the mongol nazi barbarians. :)

PolAmKrakow
8 May 2022  #1255

@Velund
Hey dumb F, you know Duda is a lame duck president right? Even if he made such a claim, and I dont see any credible source with that information, annexation of any part of Ukraine would never happen. The Polish people wouldnt let it happen and the Ukraine people wouldn't either. Really, maybe it is time for some of tese retards to be banned.

GefreiterKania
8 May 2022  #1256

What Poland really needs and what Poland really should take as a terriorial redress it is Królewiec with the land around it.

Exactly. Prusy Królewskie and Prusy Książęce should finally be united under Polish rule. There is no justification whatsoever for an Asian country to possess land in the heart of Europe.

Cojestdocholery
8 May 2022  #1257

into Poland and Lithuania.

Into what? What Lithuania has to do with it?

is great great grandfather would be spinning in his grave.

No he wouldn't, he would support Putin.

Brilliant!

Most of them wil go back to their own counrty. There is nothing brilliant about big chunks of minorites.

Novichok
8 May 2022  #1258

And no, your funny attempts at driving a wedge between Poles and our Ukrainian brothers

Wedge? I am celebrating Poland becoming Canada. I was told here that more languages is better than just one.
You will have a chance to declare Ukrainians a protected minority with special rights and privileges. After that, it's the Africans...You know, equal rights...You don't want to be called racists, do you?

Hey dumb F,

Just a reminder...His name here is Velund. V e l u n d. Can you memorize it?

Korvinus
8 May 2022  #1259

Before you say something equally profound, ask Putin what his objectives are.

news.yahoo.com/russias-victory-day-may-9-190200441.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Tomorrow is a big day for Russia, May 9 and Victory Day

Their is a view that Putin will officially declare " war " on Ukraine due to the numerous problems with the overall Russian military strategy

So predictions? Will Putin announce changes to Putins War and troop deployment?

For me it doesnt really matter what he announces, either way the invasion will continue one way or another until Russia retreats or they are defeated militarily.

But also it begs the question, what will the Russians be celebrating? Are we going to see the normal display of Russian military strength ...it would seem a little false considering how badly Putins War has gone ?

jon357
8 May 2022  #1260

Prusy Królewskie and Prusy Książęce should finally be united under Polish rule

It would also suit Lithuania. The place is a total dump now the Russians have it.

No he wouldn't, he would support Putin

Tolstoy? He would be silent during it and ironic afterwards. He accepted war as a brutal part of history but cherished the hope of peace, and the strange effects of war on people thrown together by it.

Poland becoming Canada

To nie Kanada as we say in Polish.


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