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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



mafketis
12 May 2022  #1801

Ukranians who venerate Bandera are wrong

Are they worse than Russians who venerate Stalin (whose rehabilitation has been a feature of Putin's Russia)?

jon357
12 May 2022  #1802

venerate Stalin (whose rehabilitation has been a feature of Putin's Russia

There are fewer who like Bandera than some would imply.

In any case, when the Volhynia Massacre occurred, Bandera was imprisoned in Sachsenhausen.

Fortunately for us, you are in a small minority right now, and the Ukranians and most Europeans knows what is important right now

Quite.

Poland and Ukraine may have had historical differences, but also work together. Semyon Petliura's army laid siege to Lviv yet fought together with Poland 2 years later against their common enemy, russia.

jon357
12 May 2022  #1803

And now Gerasimov (the erstwhile head of the orc army, wounded in Ukraine) is out, as is general Kisel.

Putler know he's losing.


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Crow
12 May 2022  #1804

Zakharova responded to Kuleba's threats to the EU

EU top politicians or politicians of leading EU countries (somebody always has to lead there) can`t be even compared with Zakharova.

GefreiterKania
12 May 2022  #1805

Lithuania recalls her ambassador to Greater Mongolia...

tass.com/world/1450157

jon357
12 May 2022  #1806

Lovely news. Apparently because the Lithuanian parliament voted unanimously on a resolution stating that Russia's intent is to wholly or partially destroy the Ukrainian nation. Orcland is apparently threatening to withdraw recognition of Lithuania as a nation. Soon the orcs will run out of sabres to rattle.

And meanwhile in eastern Ukraine today, the russians lost 180 more troops and 6 tanks along with a lot of other equipment. Not doing very well, are they...

Crow
12 May 2022  #1807

Greater Mongolia...

nazi terminology.

Lithuania recalls her ambassador

Lithuania chooses oblivion. And why not? Better that their ancestors fell on their own swords instead for they accepted germanization. Then even nazification.

Bobko
12 May 2022  #1808

@GefreiterKania

I don't know why Lithuanians are always so much more annoying than Latvians and Estonians.

GefreiterKania
12 May 2022  #1809

Because they were once united with Poland - they got some of our grit and bravery. :)

Crow
12 May 2022  #1810

They betrayed Poland and stubbed their dic* in Her. They deserve what goes to them. After decade of Russian gubernator they will come back to Poland on their knees.

Cojestdocholery
12 May 2022  #1811

Petliura's army laid siege to Lviv

In 1659 Ivan Wyhowski with help of Polish and Tatar forces destroyed Russian/Moscow Army that laid sige to Konotop!

pawian
12 May 2022  #1812

"Newly acquired" 70's and 80's T-72 Soviet garbage...

Ukrainians are making a good use of those Polish gift tanks. Modernised ones have been sent to battlefields. Older ones are used to train new crews.

Twitter video:
Polish-supplied T-72M1 tanks with Ukrainian troops on the training range in Kryvyi Rih.

Dirk diggler
12 May 2022  #1813

addiction to culture wars and outrage culture

Idgaf about "culture" or "culture wars" or whatever. I rarely even watch TV because it's all a bunch of brainwashing. Even the news which use to be the last thing I'd still watch regularly has gone to ****.... with the exception of Tucker Carlson of course. But even Sean Hannity has been a huge shabbos goy. Oh Israel we have to protect at all costs, but other US allies? Naaaahhh

What I do care about is my family and friends, my motherland, and myself. Every grosz that goes to the ukrops is one less grosz that could've gone to a needy Polish family.

you insist that the war has nothing to do with us or that a side doesn't have to be chosen

Because it doesn't. There's always an option to choose not to get involved and remain neutral and even better to benefit two from people fighting i.e. Switzerland during WW2.

Ukranians who venerate Bandera are wrong

Which is a big chunk of the population... The ukrops built several statues to honor him, named streets after him, etc. He's a venerated as well as all the others who "fought for an independent Ukraine"...... by massacring hundreds of thousands of Poles.

Erdogan

Rather he is smart... he's not openly supporting one side or the other. Turkey normally doesn't have good relations with Russia, but yet they're undoubtedly getting things in return for not taking part in the sanctions. Basically, he's acting like Switzerland during WW2.

Thank God at least the EU doesn't want Ukraine to join...

Modernised ones have been sent to battlefields

They're still garbage. Both sides are fighting with 70s and 80s Soviet junk

Paulina
12 May 2022  #1814

I don't know why Lithuanians are always so much more annoying than Latvians and Estonians.

:)))

Because they were once united with Poland - they got some of our grit and bravery. :)

I think they had their own spunk even before that ;) Fun fact - that "midget state" at its greatest extent - in the 15th century - was the largest state in Europe - the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It included large parts of the former Kievan Rus and other neighbouring states, including modern Lithuania, Belarus and parts of what is now Ukraine, Latvia, Poland, Russia and Moldova.

Idgaf about "culture"

Yes, we can see that lol

jon357
12 May 2022  #1815

Ukrainians are making a good use of those Polish gift tanks

And a whole russian battalion destroyed at the Seversky Donets river crossing. A wipeout.
twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1524406832890064901

Edit:

And another orc ship sunk at Snake Island...
twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1524842158330630175

Korvinus
12 May 2022  #1816

by massacring hundreds of thousands of Poles.

The funniest thing about putinas is they will bring up Wołyń with one breath and then deny Katyń with the other
You uses the same """logic""" of the SJW, as Russians. This is why UA asking allies for help is bad but RU doing the same is good. The same nonsensical reasoning which makes SJW supporting alphabet soap + islam. The goal is to destroy the status quo and advance their agenda of dividing everything in "oppressor and oppressed". That was a huge problem in classical marxism as in less than a decade, the "evil oppressor" went from aristocracy, to merchants, farmers, hoarders(...) to even other communists. Nobody killed more commies than Stalin.

Eastern Europe is the last bastion of resistance against both mutations of marxism, eurasianism and frankfurt school based marxism. In South America, Chile sadly throwed the amazing Pinochet legacy out of window and elected a Commie. Argentina also is governed by Peronists since forever. And when AR abandoned the classical liberalism in favor of Peronism, it become poorer and poorer. Macri failed to do anything.

If you look to UA history, is mostly UA wanting to be left alone and Russia not wanting to left then alone.

Paulina
12 May 2022  #1817

There's always an option to choose not to get involved and remain neutral

That would be cruel in this situation. You lack empathy, good character and moral spine, Nazi lover.

pawian
12 May 2022  #1818

And a whole russian battalion destroyed at the Seversky Donets river crossing. A wipeout.

Yes, it is amasing how RuSSists are having their asses kicked so easily.

Every grosz that goes to the ukrops is one less grosz

Most Poles support the Ukrainian cause. You are a huge minority here. :):):)

You lack empathy, good character and moral spine, Nazi lover.

I suppose Dirk is only so sincere in the forum. In real life contacts he says what most Poles think. :):)

Bratwurst Boy
12 May 2022  #1819

eurasianism

What is that?

Dirk diggler
12 May 2022  #1820

Wołyń with one breath and then deny Katyń with the other

When have I denied Katyn? I'm not supporting Russia or Ukraine. They can go at it all they want. In fact, I encourage them to do so. Let them weaken each other so Poland can be stronger and gain more clout in that region.

Ideally it would've been nice if Poland used the opportunity to recapture Lwow and populate it with Poles since the ukrops killed all the Poles that use to live there.

Eastern Europe is the last bastion of resistance

Thank God... that's because Eastern Europeans aren't as gullible as Western Europeans. The things that would happen as a result of the turd world migrant crisis - skyrocketing rapes, terror attacks, no go zones, ninjas galore, etc. was all predicted by the Polish people and Polish government that's why they weren't let in. Even PO back then had enough sense to realize how unpopular mass turd world migration is among Polish people.

If you look to UA history, is mostly UA wanting to be left alone

I'm pretty familiar with it. I know enough to know that throughout the past few centuries they've massacred hundreds of thousands of Polish people through ethnic cleansing campaigns. That and constantly changing sides with whoever is doing good at the moment. Could be the talmudic influence which encourages intrigue and back stabbing.

That would be cruel in this situation. You lack empathy, good character and moral spine,

A decision might be harsh, but that doesn't mean it's not the right decision.

You all are crying about how Poland needs to help the ukrops out. Well, how did you feel when there were tens of thousands of turd worlders trying to get into Poland from Belarus just a year ago? How about when Germany was trying to force Merkel's "doctors and engineers" onto us, telling Poland that we need to fulfill our quote and show solidarity.

I remember that turd world immigration into Poland wasn't too popular on here, people generally didn't want to let them in. Yet everyone is now clamoring for the millions of Ukranians that have come in and will continue to... which I guess if we are going to have a flood of immigrants I'd still rather have the ukrops than ninjas, terrorists and lifetime free loaders.

AntV
12 May 2022  #1821

Yes, it is amasing how RuSSists are having their asses kicked so easily.

If we toured Ukrainian towns we'd probably think Russia isn't getting its ass kicked, but doing the ass kicking.

From the reports I read, Uke isn't kicking Russia's ass but is surviving by grit, determination, and some foreign aid. Pray it continues its survival.

Miloslaw
12 May 2022  #1822

I'm not supporting Russia

But you do support Putin, who, in your mind, is a.perfectly respectable aithoritarian dictator!
You are very funny and rather pathetic.....
Get your Neo Nazi Sh#t together and then come back with what you REALLY think.

pawian
12 May 2022  #1823

If we toured Ukrainian towns

We were talking about the confrontation of two armies, not RuSSist war crimes on civilian population. Pay better attention next time.

Russia's ass

I was talking about RuSSist asses, not RuSSia`s ass. That is a huge difference. Try to stick to what other posters write/type and do not put new words into their fingers.

Will you???

Miloslaw
12 May 2022  #1824

Uke isn't kicking Russia's ass

But it is at times.
Read all the reports, the Ukes are doing surprisingly well.
The Russian military are very poor, at the very least.

Paulina
12 May 2022  #1825

I suppose Dirk is only so sincere in the forum.

Could be, I guess... I wonder if he told his alleged Jewish girlfriend that he's a supporter of Holocaust...

Ideally it would've been nice if Poland used the opportunity to recapture Lwow

No, it wouldn't have been nice.

since the ukrops killed all the Poles that use to live there.

No, they didn't. Some Poles did leave Lviv fearing ethnic cleansing and moved to central parts of Poland. But what made Poles almost completely disappear from Lviv were Soviet expulsions due to Yalta agreement:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_population_transfers_(1944%E2%80%931946)

mafketis
12 May 2022  #1826

The Russian soldiers some Putinites are so proud of....

twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1524852317656432646

jon357
12 May 2022  #1827

surviving by grit, determination, and some foreign aid. Pray it continues its survival.

Pretty well.

And of course compared to some of the reports coming out of russia, the reports of russian losses to Ukraine are verified independently.

The Russian military are very poor

Shockingly poor, as is their equipment. They're mending it now, or trying to, using microprocessors from looted washing machines and dishwashers.

alleged

This word is key.

Dirk diggler
12 May 2022  #1828

But you do support Putin, who, in your mind, is a.perfectly respectable aithoritarian dictator!

No rather I respect what he did during his 20+ year rule. He brought Russia out of the poverty and embarrassment of the Yeltsin years and managed to add strategically important lands to the country namely Crimea. But he overplayed his hand this time, I'll be the first to admit that.

No, they didn't.

They most certainly did

Some Poles did leave Lviv fearing ethnic cleansing

Yeah... because otherwise they would've joined the ranks of the hundreds of thousands of Poles the ukrops massacred in Galicia and Wolyn, with the blessing of the Germans. Lwow belonged to Poland after WW1 because it was recognized as a Polish city by the Allies. In the 1930's Lwow was majority Polish with a Ukranian minority about 11% of the city.

The group OUN/UPA which planned and massacred poles back then still exists today and receives support from the judensky regime. The ukrops that massacred Poles that are still alive today are treated by the government as veterans with the same kind of benefits that legit soldiers would have.

These same groups still exist today with the same black and red banner. And just like back then, they're not too fond of Poles and regularly desecrate Polish graves and spray anti-Polish graffiti on Polish historical sites around Lwow and Wolyn.

I wonder if he told his alleged Jewish girlfriend that he's a supporter of Holocaust...

We share similar politics as far as race, immigration, etc. but obviously while she appreciates her roots which is fine with me she abhors the orthodox community and she's no feminist but they really treat women bad. She didn't want to start popping out kids at 16 and continue to do that her whole life without ever wandering outside of the kitchen and be forced to sit separately from men even in the car, wear strict clothing, and her world revolving around the kitchen and dinner table while perpetually pregnant. There's a lot of jews who aren't fond of israel, zionism, etc. and even a large group that believes in Jesus. Unlike the talmudic ones who believe that Jesus is in hell "boiling in excrement" as the talmud says... I can deal with that.

Get back to the topic of this thread please

Dirk diggler
12 May 2022  #1829

All one needs to do is look at videos from maidan and see how many red and black flags there are. There's millions of banderowcy in the ukrop population. And despite their historic hatred for Poles, they're coming in because we're being welcoming to them. Well, history repeats itself and ukrop history shows that this is a nation of perpetual traitors and backstabbers, their loyalties shifting like the wind. If Poland is down, the ukrops will be the first to take advantage of it just like they have countless times over the past 400 some years.

If Poland were getting invaded by Russia instead of Ukraine, I guarantee there'd be ukrops among the rusky ranks. They sure as **** wouldn't help us. Instead, just like in their history, they'd kick us while we're down.

So yes, Poles helping ukrops is a BIG mistake and it's going to bite us in the ass later on. Mark my words. It's already causing problems since Poland took in millions of them. This is a country with some 40 million people - allowing 3 almost 4 million in within a few months just made the population jump damn near 10%. And that on top of all the ukrops that came earlier because their broke ass country's average wage is some $400 a month.

They say Russia is a gas station pretending to be a country. Well, if that's the case Ukraine is a gasoline pump pretending to be a country seeing as how their government relies on transit fees for revenue. Well that's gone bye bye. They'll have to really get clever now to find what to steal and embezzle next. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the aid the USA and others send.

I wonder when judensky will 'oy vey, muh russkis' again to the US congress after just being given 40 billion.

pawian
12 May 2022  #1830

mistake

No, it is not. It is high time to start the new Polish Ukrainian alliance, then friendship and finally brotherhood. At last. We have been waiting for it for centuries and now it is materialising. God bless Poland united with Ukraine. Ha!


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