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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Velund
14 May 2022  #2,011

the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade gives RuSSists hell in the East. :):)

I found source of this photo...

pik.net.ua/2022/05/14/prykarpatski-edelvejsy-gotuyutsya-do-protystoyannya-z-vorogom-foto/

And see something interesting. Article dated mid-may, on a first group of photos with artillery exercises I see trees with leaves. Consistent with mid-may in Ukraine. But at photos with tank, trees is without leaves at all, and personnel is in winter clothes. ;) ;) Also, ukrainian colors on a hatch looks like added in photoshop. ;) Also, image looks mirrored, to avoid finding original online by standard image search.

I'm too lazy at saturday evening to dig deeper. Here is bottle of spanish "Tres Picos" wine (pure garnacha, very good) and a solid piece of fresh Gorgonzola Dolce that handed to me from friends in Italy with ocassion yesterday. I hope to spend my time much better than trying to "reverse-engineer" ukrainian propaganda. ;)

jon357
14 May 2022  #2,012

But

Russists always try so cast doubt, to sow seeds of confusion. This is a standard russian trick. You even tried it after the Salisbury Chemical Weapons attack and the shooting down of the Malaysian Airlines attack.

It doesn't work.

handed to me from friends in Italy

They must have very long arms.

trying to "reverse-engineer" ukrainian propaganda

Nobody believes your pathetic attempts to sow distrust of media sources. As you were told, it does not work here.

pawian
14 May 2022  #2,013

. But at photos with tank, trees is without leaves at all, and personnel is in winter clothes. ;) ;)

hahaha You are trying hard indeed but to no avail. Who told you that T-80 photo is a recent one? Where did I suggest it is a new one?

Where is it suggested on the site you dug up? They only wrote:
Complete combat readiness. On all fronts, in all battalions without exception. There is no time for rest. The enemy breathes in the back from all sides. Training, strengthening personnel, improving and fighting again! For Ukraine!

bottle of spanish "Tres Picos" wine piece of fresh Gorgonzola Dolce that handed to me from friends in Italy

Wow, so you have left RuSSia and moved to a sane country after all. But still supporting Putin. Funny. :):)

jon357
14 May 2022  #2,014

Where is it suggested on the site you dug up?

it it doesn't need to be of course. It's a classic ruSSist attempt to sow confusion, something straight out of the Kremlin playbook.

Wow, so you have left RuSSia and moved to a normal country

According to media reports millions of orcs of conscription age have fled. They've tried to call up reservists and use ex army however many have flat refused. Their mercenaries are even refusing to fight.

twitter.com/ukr_danny/status/1525571902110109697

Perhaps the RuSSists should hire the latest american mass shooter, the one tonight. At least he has a better kill rate than the average orc.

Velund
14 May 2022  #2,015

left RuSSia and moved

I'm not so stupid to move to EU right now. ;)

amiga500
14 May 2022  #2,016

from an aussie expat living in moscow..

"Struggled to find somewhere to watch the FA cup final today, BBC is banned and all that.
Found bar that would put up a stream... Ended up being a Ukrainian one hahaha
Had Slava Ukraine in the top corner the whole time, with Ukrainian commentary. Few lads at the bar were visibly unhappy, but no trouble otherwise (yet)."

hahaha I'm suprised no drunk russian started yelling and cursing at the pro ukranian message on the tv screen, especially if they were a chelsea fan! ;) I hope a few supported Liverpool though YWNA!

Crow
15 May 2022  #2,017

I see that morons continuing to send weaponry to Ukraine. They will be left disarmed with many of them full of radical Muslims, while complete social situation aggravate.

Suicide of western Europe.

Poland would be wise to keep some weaponry for its own defense when her western borders become fragile overrun by desperate zombies.

mafketis
15 May 2022  #2,018

morons continuing to send weaponry to Ukraine

you mistyped... I think you meant 'nazi morons oppose sending weaponry to Ukraine' (Ukraine - motherland of Slavia under attack by pseudo-slavs in Russia and Serbia...)

Slava Ukraini!

Down with pseudo-Slavic Serbia (heartland of treason to Slavia!).

Crow
15 May 2022  #2,019

Well, many Ukrainians are Serbs from the Balkans. After all, they are all Serbs in one way or another. The papacy scre*ed them up. But God will help them.

mafketis
15 May 2022  #2,020

many Ukrainians are Serbs from the Balkans

If that is true, then your consistent support for Russian nazis who are killing Ukrainians (or 'serbs' if you prefer) is very irrational.

Crow
15 May 2022  #2,021

mafe, we are not all hypnotized. I can`t ignore facts. NATO and EU using Ukraine, same way as they used Croatia, Bosnian and Albanian Muslims, and same as they activating them again these days. Its the machine that must be stooped.

But will be fine.

mafketis
15 May 2022  #2,022

I can`t ignore facts

The only fact that matters is that Russian fascists are killing Ukrainian civilians. Pseudo-slavs killing Slavs....

If NATO is on the side of the true Slavs (Ukrainians in this case) then you should support NATO!

Atch
15 May 2022  #2,023

All stocks of food wheat were removed from Ukraine to the West before the conflict began,

As Jon says, you are telling lies. I know this for a fact as I know Irish people farming in Ukraine on a very large scale. Do you know that you're telling lies or do you actually believe what you're saying, I wonder.

Korvinus
15 May 2022  #2,024

NATO and EU using Ukraine

Ukrainians are not being used - they are fighting to defend their land from aggressor that in the event of victory would deprive them of independence and destroy even the weak democracy that Ukraine has. They are also defending their families from the fate suffered by the civilians of Bucha. For when the combat ends, Russians don't stop the killing.

Crow
15 May 2022  #2,025

You are all backward and hypnotized. Only Serbs knows democracy. On media in Serbia we can learn the stance of all sides in conflict. All can speak.

This is manipulation with Slavs in Ukraine >

nazi

GT investigates: Evidence suggests US may have supported neo-Nazi Azov Battalion
> globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254217.shtml

GefreiterKania
15 May 2022  #2,026

If NATO is on the side of the true Slavs (Ukrainians in this case) then you should support NATO!

He's not on the side of Slavs, he's on the side of mongols. Always has been, always will be, regardless of circumstances. Hopeless case.

For when the combat ends, Russians don't stop the killing.

Yes, but they forgot that thanks to the Internet the entire world knows instantly of their bestiality.

This is manipulation with Slavs in Ukraine

For every photo like this, I can find you ten similar ones from russia (already posted some of them here). russians incorporated nazism as an element of their statehood and are nourishing it...

theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535

eupoliticalreport.eu/russia-is-the-worlds-breeding-ground-for-neo-nazi-culture/

... they are the Third Reich incarnated.

pawian
15 May 2022  #2,027

Do you know that you're telling lies or do you actually believe what you're saying, I wonder.

Those RuSS trolls lie with full awareness. They do it in accordance with the flow of news. It has happened many times that I could read an article either in Polish or foreign independent media about RuSSist crimes in Ukraine and then one of our trolling RuSSists writes about the same thing but with reversed address, ie they accuse the West and Ukrainians.

jon357
15 May 2022  #2,028

... they are the Third Reich incarnated

As bad or worse. Some systems, tyrants and ideologies seem to bring out the very worst in humanity. Stalin, Hitler and Putin are perfect examples and make me wonder if some of the rhetoric about evil leaders of the past (the Old Testament and ancient/medieval literature have plenty of examples) is exaggerated or not. Probably not.

Stalin brought out the worst in people like the executioner/murderers at KatyƄ, Beria's killers and the lubianka torturers, Hitler enabled Irma Grese and the Dirlewanger brigade, Putin has brought forth baby rapists and the Bucha murderers. Evil is attracted to and enabled by evil. Good and evil are very real things, not just the wickedness of opportunism and stupidity, but something worse.

Morawiecki called it right (I didn't think I'd ever say that) in his Telegraph article, the one that Amiga500 posted a link to. He said:

" Putin is neither Hitler nor Stalin. Unfortunately, he is more dangerous. "
" We cannot be under any illusions. This is not insanity but a deliberate strategy that has already opened the gates to genocide. "Russkiy Mir" is a cancer which is consuming not only the majority of Russian society, but also poses a deadly threat "

telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2022/05/10/russias-monstrous-ideology-must-defeated/

one of our trolling RuSSists writes about the same thing but with reversed address, ie they accuse the West and Ukrainians

This is an absolutely deliberate strategy.

Korvinus
15 May 2022  #2,029

You are all backward and hypnotized.

China attempting to subjugate other countries is evil.
Russia attempting to subjugate other countries is evil.
USA is attempting to subjugate other countries is evil.

Is that hard to understand?

You know what the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists is? Freedom fighters defend their homes, terrorists go to other countries to kill. And man are there a lot of Russian terrorists right now in the Ukraine, they sure need a lot of freedom fighters to get rid of them.

Cojestdocholery
15 May 2022  #2,030

Russia attempting to subjugate other countries is evil.

You got it wrong!
Russia attempting to subjugate other countries is evil - look at Chechenia. There is a list of many countries.
China .... is evil - look at Tibet.
USA ..... is bad - look at Germany. Even Afganistan. Looks better now then after Soviet Russia left.

Crow
15 May 2022  #2,031

Is that hard to understand?

Add Vatican and EU leading powers and plus Britain.

Korvinus
15 May 2022  #2,032

Add

Right now the most evil thing going on is Russian unprovoked invasion on peaceful country.

Crow
15 May 2022  #2,033

Yesterday NATO and adds invaded Serbs.

As for Ukraine. Should stay balanced and kept UKRPOLBAT instead to cancel it and have freely walking banderists.

Crnogorac3
15 May 2022  #2,034

Magnificent celebration in Azovstal after the victory of the Ukrainian representative at the Eurovision Song Contest 2022.

t.me/intelslava/28857

Korvinus
15 May 2022  #2,035

invaded Serbs.

It has not been an invasion, just peace keeping operation.
Nothing at all like Russians did in Chechnya.
They also did not want to be in Russia, but Russia drowned them in blood and installed Kadyrov as local thug/governor.

Remember when the US occupied the Kosovo and made it the 51st state?
Remember Ukrainian death squads roaming Crimea killing thousands of innocent Russians?

As for Ukraine. Should stay

As an independent country, not harming anyone, it should do as it damned please.

amiga500
15 May 2022  #2,036

As for Ukraine. Should stay balanced and kept UKRPOLBAT instead to cancel it

Don't worry your head about it, UKRPOLBRAT is stronger than ever and will last (hopefully) hundreds of years.. :)

johnny reb
15 May 2022  #2,037

Russia has likely lost one-third of its combat forces in Ukraine, UK Defense Ministry says.
And that was just in one month's time.

So your trolling about hunger didn't work...

Oh joun, your projected lies must stop.
Where did I ever mention "hunger" ?

Finland WILLl apply to join NATO !
This must just give Putin major gas.
Russia's invasion is losing momentum quickly.
Putin has destroyed his country for generations to come pushing Russia back 75 years.
My question is, "why ?"
Russia is no longer a threat to the E.U. so hopefully NATO can start investing in it's own America's borders now.
All America needs to do it is a president. :-(

Crnogorac3
15 May 2022  #2,038

twitter.com/duska58hotmail1/status/1525781016836808706

"western values"

the dude killed black people mostly, and two white people... a neo-nazi and a racist

n

amiga500
15 May 2022  #2,039

Even pro Russian bloggers are having second thoughts, looks like the river crossing debacle woke some of them up

understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-14

"The Ukrainian destruction of significant elements of a Russian motorized rifle brigade that tried to cross a pontoon bridge over the Siverskyi Donets River on May 11 has shocked prominent Russian milbloggers. Those bloggers have begun commenting on the incompetence of the Russian military to their hundreds of thousands of followers."

The effects of this change in tone and discourse by these milbloggers are uncertain but could be potent. People living under tightly censored regimes often trust individuals who seem to be independent of but generally aligned with the government"

pawian
15 May 2022  #2,040

Russia is no longer a threat to the E.U.

No.
RuSSia will always be a threat to Western world unless it undergoes deimperialisation and deputinization. Simply speaking, they need to give up their RuSSist orc mentality and start behaving like civilised people. It is possible but it will take decades.


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