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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Paulina
17 May 2022  #2191

Maybe so, but don't we all.

Well, I'm not saying that I'd shoot journalists... Even if they're propagandist psychos... That's what orcs do - they threaten journalists, persecute them, abduct them, torture them, murder them... We're supposed to be better than orcs, remember?

I don't wish the crazy b1tch well, but I wouldn't shoot her.

or a person from Belarus, they are just as bad.

Even those who were protesting against Lukashenko and were beaten up and jailed for it?

jon357
17 May 2022  #2192

Russian president Vladimir Putin is "quite seriously ill," a former British secret service official has said.
Christopher Steele

It's a very good source however he isn't saying anything that isn't in the public domain already.

Of course if Putin is as ill as that, it may explain why some of his decisions are so disastrous. Good that he's still in power, since the worse decisions he makes, the better for Ukraine.

They are failing in their major aims and losing troops at an unsustainable level.

it turns out ruSSian officers are killing their own wounded soldiers, according

Given that Putler is reportedly making direct command decisions at regimental and brigade level, the order to do this has likely come from the top.

Russian state TV is Kremlin-approved? Is he supposed to deliver a bitter pill to the Russian society or sth?

Commentators who monitor russian TV have been suggesting this for over a week now. I've mentioned it a couple of times. They appear to be preparing them incrementally for bad news.

Meanwhile, another $500,000 in money for weapons is going to Ukraine from some of the mainland Europe states. A drop in the ocean compared to how much some of them are still paying for gas, however heavy (and light) weaponry is still needed and is having a devastating effect on Putler's troops.

Meanwhile, all the orcs can do is make silly (and false) propaganda pretending that American and Canadian generals were captured by russians.

Paulina
17 May 2022  #2193

I don't wish the crazy b1tch well, but I wouldn't shoot her.

I do think that such top Kremlin propagandists should be sanctioned though. No shopping for Prada in Milan and no villas on Côte d'Azur for the crazy b1tch.

Is she sanctioned?

cms neuf
17 May 2022  #2194

So as the loser Russians retreat they are leaving the Donbassian militias behind with no ammo and no right of entry to Russia. Typical heartlessness - i guess with parallels to how they sat on the banks of the Wisla in 1944

amiga500
17 May 2022  #2195

hey are leaving the Donbassian militias behind with no ammo and no right of entry to Russia.

I thought each donbassian before feb 24 was eligible for a russian passport?

Paulina
17 May 2022  #2196

... looks like reality is reaching the brains of at least some people there :)

Not the brain of that crazy b1tch though... Thanks for the link, this video is longer than what I saw earlier... Look at how she ended with a propagandist line that Russia "had no choice" and will fight to the end and will win this war lol That former military guy didn't look like he was so sure about it...

Crnogorac3
17 May 2022  #2197

So we are crossing out Mariupol as well?

The victory of the forces of light over the sides of darkness. Jesus is happy.

"We will not give you Zelensky even a meter,
the homeland of our Czar Peter."


PolAmKrakow
17 May 2022  #2198

Even those who were protesting against Lukashenko and were beaten up and jailed for it?

Yes even those. Every one I have hired has been deceitful, thieving, lying and just terrible attitudes. One of them was chased out of Belarus by Lukashenko and he was one of the worst. As for the woman in question, I do not consider her a member of any press. She is a government spokesperson and more closely resembles Goebbels than a member of any legitimate press. May she suffer the same fate as the Nazi propagandist.

jon357
17 May 2022  #2199

top Kremlin propagandists should be sanctioned though

Patrick Lancaster, Eva Bartlett, Graham Phillips. Pro-russia bloggers and YouTubeists. All potentially war criminals due to their 'interviews' with POWs. Hopefully they will be tried in a correctly constituted court for any crimes committed.

Mariupol

Still defenders there and their heroic stance has cost russia many orcs and over $100 million in missiles.

It was hilarious to read about that beach bar that the orcs tried to destroy in Mikolayiv. It's still open despite them firing a $6.5 million missile at it. The reason? Apparently a few years ago it was called "The Bombardier" and the orcs saw it on Google maps and thought it was a military installation.

Strzelec35
17 May 2022  #2200

This is real interesting stuff how the Ukraine nation formed and how Polish nationalists and other groups opposed it:

youtube.com/watch?v=9Gwuu7TXPwI

johnny reb
17 May 2022  #2201

Ukraine has accused Russia of dropping phosphorus bombs on holdout forces in the Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol.

Meanwhile, $4 billion and counting: the D.C. war machine feasts on Ukraine

dossier.substack.com/p/4-billion-and-counting-the-dc-war?s=w

Cojestdocholery
17 May 2022  #2202

even a meter,

Any Russian can have a meter of land that is a six feet deep for free!

Crnogorac3
17 May 2022  #2203

Gruppe Wagner

youtu.be/KpxDUJ8g_Mw

English subs possible (select English in auto-translate option menu)

youtu.be/4Yv82PWKCGQ

mafketis
17 May 2022  #2204

More German and French betrayal of Ukraine as they cave and agree to pay for Russian hydrocarbons in rubles.... words fail to express how much I despise these weak traitors....

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1526266440684388352

France trying to give away Ukrainian land to Putin and Scholz's whinging appeasement are the straws that will break the EU's back!

France and Germany are a far bigger threat to the EU than Brexit ever could be....

Tacitus
17 May 2022  #2205

are a far bigger threat to the EU

You have been saying that nonsense for years with various justifications. No doubt you would say the same if France and Germany were to support a course of action that would lead to Russia immeditely stopping its' energy imports to Europe and thus causing a big recession.

Your source is also not telling the whole story:

reuters.com/markets/commodities/eu-clarifies-how-companies-can-legally-pay-russian-gas-2022-05-16/

Dirk diggler
17 May 2022  #2206

More German and French betrayal of Ukraine as they cave and agree to pay for Russian hydrocarbons in rubles

The dollar, or in this case ruble, is what ultimately matters in the long run, like it or not.

Germany especially is totally reliant on Russia's gas. They can't just switch to a new energy source overnight. They're donating weapons to Ukraine (defense industry and its investors must be happy) while helping Russia beat its own energy export revenue expectations (making the Russians happy).

And yesterday people were crying about how much Russia is suffering under sanctions when expert assessments clearly show otherwise, not to mention the huge capital inflows, total rebound and growth of the ruble, and sales of high priced gas and oil - including to the same countries that are sanctioning Russia and giving ukraine aid LOL!!!

Fact is, Russia is on track to make more money from energy sales in 2022 than 2021 selling to the EU, thanks to the EU/US/UK sanctions.

So the EU to stand in solidarity with Ukraine sends them weapons, sends them billions, talks tough (again, all bark, no bite) on Russia, yet not only ends up paying more for energy, Russia is making more off energy than even in 2021 before the sanctions...Talk about shooting yourself in the foot LOL.

rferl.org/a/russia-energy-sales-europe-doubled-study/31825742.html
businessinsider.com/russian-oil-sales-up-despite-massive-sanctions-2022-4

And fools think that the EU is really bending over backwards to help Ukraine

The US, UK, and European Union all slapped Russia's energy sector with historic sanctions in hopes of curbing the country's invasion of Ukraine.

Despite those moves, Russia is selling more oil and gas today than it did before the war began.


So much for "effective sanctions" and "ruining the Russian economy"

Yes pawian, the sanctions are truly petting, caressing even...

Unfortunately, the only people who suffer are the ones on low incomes who have to fill up their tanks. Otherwise this is totally comical. I mean seriously, they have all these "experts" in the EU - did they not even bother to consider such a scenario where by sanctioning Russia yet still buying off them they're forced to pay more for the same energy and are making Russia more money than before?

Crnogorac3
17 May 2022  #2207

A short story, an English mercenary came to the battlefield, the first day the Russians poured all over them with grenades, his comrades in arms either died, were wounded or escaped, he was captured, gives an interview to a Russian journalist.

twitter.com/PelmeniPusha/status/1526540242857115650

The British mercenary managed to be on the front lines for only one night, after which he surrendered

Wow, I'm impressed how he lasted for so very long... Obviously had enough. Even that was too much for him.

:)

jon357
17 May 2022  #2208

the EU

It's not just the EU.

ruble

Artificially inflated and not actually exchangeable for the amount in hard currency that russia tries to sell it for.

Unfortunately, the only people who suffer are the ones on low incomes who have to fill up their tanks

I'm sure you'll manage. If you've got your driving licence back, just drive less and use public transport more.

Miloslaw
17 May 2022  #2209

Wow, I'm impressed how he lasted for so very long

At least he is still alive, unlike 26,500 Russians...........

Dirk diggler
17 May 2022  #2210

Obviously had enough. Even that was too much for him.

Have you seen what the British army is up to these days?

youtube.com/watch?v=Q1vCe3BAnws
youtube.com/watch?v=OQ4OoPNY_YM

And these guys want to go against the Russians? LOL!!!

Russia has taken over the Azovstal plant. The Ukrops were sent out on buses to receive medical care.

In the meantime, Russia will make $1 billion today, just as they did yesterday and will again tomorrow, off energy exports to the EU, thanks to EU sanctions. LOL!!!

Man, this still makes me laugh. These guys sanction Russia, yet continue to buy their energy - at a much higher cost now, and not only does Russia continue to sell to them, they're making more money than even before the war, before the sanctions while selling less energy overall.

And they're demanding them to pay in rubles, not dollars or euros, to keep the high ruble price stable.

What better thing to do than sell less of an item for an inflated price to your adversaries and end up making more money than even before because of all their barking LOL

jon357
17 May 2022  #2211

@Miloslaw
It's just the normal fake news. Unlike the confirmed figures for dead orcs, around 26,500 and three times as many seriously injured.

There's some (still unconfirmed but)very good news coming out of the Donbas right now. The Ukrainian forces are moving forward past a key objective and are driving the orcs back to russia. The NLAW rocket launchers from the UK, the M777 howitzers from the US and the AMZ Dzik-2 armoured vehicles from Poland have made this possible. That and the fighting spirit of Ukrainians.

They're still waiting for the weapons that germany and France promised ages ago.

Crow
17 May 2022  #2212

The world is coming to an end

dollar and eur fall isn`t end of the world.

More German and French betrayal of Ukraine

Oh, give some time to France and Germany. Just give them some time. They will for sure try to protect their investment.

Dirk diggler
17 May 2022  #2213

Ukraine surrenders Mariupol. The Azov "nationalists" will have to turn in their jewish tavor rifles and wolfsangel/sun wheel emblems since judensky has relieved them and ceded Mariupol to the Russians.

nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-fighters-evacuate-azovstal-mariupol-rcna29151
nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-end-battle-mariupol-evacuate-azovstal-soldiers-russia-rcna24451

Still can't get over that lol.. it's almost as much of a comedy as this whole sanctioning your enemy so you can pay significantly more for the same goods you were already buying from them thereby increasing their war coffers... "European nationalists" with wolfsangel and sunwheel emblems and tatts who claim their fighting for a Ukranian ethnostate, running around with Israeli rifles, answering to a jew...

I wonder what's next... I think Kherson then Odessa to make that land corridor to Transnistria... probably why there's regular clashes over Snake Island. Russia wants to control the whole eastern part of Ukraine where the most Russians live and the south to make Ukraine a landlocked country and link up with pro-Russians in Transnistria which Russia has supported since the 90s

Crow
17 May 2022  #2214

Russia can arrange victory at Eurovision to many.

Velund
17 May 2022  #2215

I think Kherson then Odessa to make that land corridor to Transnistria...

Pretty easy. All this is Rusian lands that was transferred to new ukrainian state by Lenin. Ukrainians destroyed all Lenin monuments in the country. So, if there is something post-mortem exists, Lenin is probably gets really offended and done all that he can to correct the situation. ;) At least, Lenin monuments will be restored on lands that is under control of Russia.

Poland and "baltic tigers" should start thinking now... ;)

Crow
17 May 2022  #2216

Most strange thing is that USA and western Europe defend deeds of communists.

Dirk diggler
17 May 2022  #2217

I'm not really for one side or another, but I'm realistic and in terms of economic opportunity there's going to be a ton as Russia consolidates its gains. That whole area was neglected by the Ukranian government for decades. As soon as Russia took over Crimea they invested billions into it, both the state and the oligarchs. They're going to do the same once this is all over. They'll rebuild everything, there will be massive construction and infrastructure projects, and lots of opportunity. For one, incomes are much higher in Russia than Ukraine.

Personally, I've always saw Ukraine as a crappy version of Russia - smaller, much poorer, way more corrupt with the worst kind of corruption, and lacking the resources that make Russia a power on the global stage.

Paulina
17 May 2022  #2218

All this is Rusian lands

It looks like people living there would disagree with you.

At least, Lenin monuments will be restored on lands that is under control of Russia.

So, besides being Putin's shill, you're also a communist? lol

Poland and "baltic tigers" should start thinking now... ;)

About what, preciousss?? lol

mafketis
17 May 2022  #2219

That whole area was neglected by the Ukranian government for decades

You seem to never have heard a Putin lie that you didn't believe, next you'll blame Poland for starting WWII....

Ukraine was rapidly catching up economically. Again just before the invasion the median income of Kyiv was close to that of Moskva and income in the countryside was about twice that of Russia (which is why the yokels in the Russian army were stealing so much stuff).

Russia hadn't made any economic progress since the last time they invaded Ukraine.

I've always saw Ukraine as a crappy version of Russia

You're not Polish so you don't have the experience found here in the last several years....

PolAmKrakow
17 May 2022  #2220

@Dirk diggler
Clearly you have never been to Crimea, and you have not been to the Donbas since the Russians have had it the last 8 years. Billions? Billions of rubles maybe but not dollars. Speaking from first hand viewing.


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