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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



PolAmKrakow
26 Apr 2022  #211

Now we have some false flag operations in Moldova. Typical Putin BS like he has done before. Attack or blow up some buildings and then try to look like a hearo rescuing people. Ukraine was just the beginning for Putin.

If he goes into Moldova, he will have to fight two countries, and then it likely spills into another war in Europe. Some other country is bound to get involved sooner rather than later now. As I said before, time for NATO to just go in and put this POS down.

@Novichok
You can't visit Russia because you can't afford to visit Russia, and you would not even be able to get a visa unless you could prove you were a paid troll all this time. Disappointing for us all that you can not go. We would gladly chip in to send you.

Meathead
26 Apr 2022  #212

They were parts of one country called the USSR. Please don't make me repeat it.

Culturally and socially they are not same country. They were part of the USSR due to Russian Imperialism. Just like Russia occupied Eastern Poland for about what? 200 years? Does that make Poland and Russia one country??? I think not.

You keep carrying water for imperial Russia. How weird for a Pole.

johnny reb
26 Apr 2022  #213

upon my return, I would be arrested here for "aiding and abetting" and treason.

After what you post here that may just happen anyways with a knock on your door someday soon.
About a week ago, Russia sought urgent stocks of food items from India after the West suspended its supplies.
Since the Western sanctions do not cover food and pharma, it is an opportunity for India.
Technically India has 0 allies they are a non-aligned country meaning there relationship with others is ONLY about trade no military alliances so at the same time India is a ally of Russia.

mafketis
26 Apr 2022  #214

They were parts of one country called the USSR

Which is the least relevant fact possible....

jon357
26 Apr 2022  #215

They were parts of one country called the USSR

Who knew?

Not that the ussr was a country rather than a union. The clue is in the name.

I see that Putler's barking dog Lavrov is making an exhibition of himself again this morning. They really don't like people standing up to them.

johnny reb
26 Apr 2022  #216

Only on paper, Pete.

On a happier note.......My bet is that Putin will be dead by the end of this year.
Do I have any takers ?

amiga500
26 Apr 2022  #217

NEW: Britain supports Ukraine's right to attack Russian territory & to use Western-donated munitions to do so, James Heappey declares. Defence minister tells Times Radio that Moscow started the war & it's 'completely legitimate' for Kyiv to target Russia's 'depth' & logistics.

Heappey recognises the weapons the West is giving to Ukraine 'have the range to be used over the border' of Russia Lavrov won't be happy about that. I wonder what other targets UKR/SAS have in mind. Good. Things are going in the right direction and Great Britain is leading the way.

Benefits of Brexit!

Crnogorac3
26 Apr 2022  #218

Former Jewess US ambassador to Ukraine, (((Marie Yovanovich))), admits Trump would've prevented Ukraine war, then adds that would have been a bad thing... 😠😠😠

summit.news/2022/04/25/former-us-ambassador-to-ukraine-admits-trump-would-have-prevented-war/

amiga500
26 Apr 2022  #219

Australia sending some our Bushmaster armoured infantry vehicles, they are quite versatile and battle proven. :)
twitter.com/eamonhamilton/status/1518824505208348679

mafketis
26 Apr 2022  #220

Putin will be dead by the end of this year

That's boring, far more interesting is a pool on how he'll kick the bucket.

1. suicide
2. "suicide"
3. accident
4. "accident"
5. after a long illness
6. "after a long illness"
7. terrorist attack
7. "terrorist attack"
8. palace coup

the possibilities are very.... intriguing

jon357
26 Apr 2022  #221

Britain supports Ukraine's right to attack Russian territory & to use Western-donated munitions to do so,

Australia sending some our Bushmaster armoured infantry vehicles,

They don't like it up 'em.

I notice that on newspaper BTL fields, the paid kremlin trolls are beginning to panic, or at least the person who writes their daily script is. As russia lose and are utterly humiliated, we can expect a lot of panic.

Crnogorac3
26 Apr 2022  #222

Exclusive Report - Serbian TV from Crna Gora IN4S in Mariupol : the city begins to live again

youtu.be/R9wtyp6e_SE

* Denis Pushilin the leader of the Donetsk People's Republic visits a school in liberated Mariupol

* Report from the Mariupol marketplace

* (at 2.35) Mariupol woman : "Zelensky is a very bad man."

* Russia opens a humanitarian aid punkt at the Metro Hypermarket which delivers 80,000 meals per day

jon357
26 Apr 2022  #223

Serbian TV

Fake news.

Donetsk People's Republic

No such thing.

liberated Mariupol

It will be.

Crnogorac3
26 Apr 2022  #224

One thing is certain, there won't be any gay parades in Mariupol, only Russian military marches from now on.

;)

cms neuf
26 Apr 2022  #225

Parade LOL - Do you think they could find Russian soldiers able to walk in a straight line after they have stolen all the booze in the town ?

jon357
26 Apr 2022  #226

gay parades in Mariupol

When it's liberated and the orcs are dead there'll be plenty.

Russian soldiers able to walk in a straight line after they have stolen all the booze

Vodka for breakfast. One reason why they're losing so badly...

mafketis
26 Apr 2022  #227

Serbian TV from Crna Gora

Fake news from a fake country.

only Russian military marches from now on

That sounds like nazis.... why do you support nazis?

Atch
26 Apr 2022  #228

Russia opens a humanitarian aid punkt at the Metro Hypermarket

An absolute disgrace - Russia has destroyed what was a thriving, prosperous city. And why are you suddenly speaking German? Just realised that you're a Nazi, is that it?

Putler's barking dog Lavrov

Doesn't look at all well, I'd say the old ticker is at its last gasp.

Denis Pushilin the leader of the Donetsk People's Republic

He's the one who showed up for his first meeting with Putin wearing his workout clothes .......... real international statesman material there.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Apr 2022  #229

It seems the pressure worked....now Germany sends some older stuff:

The Gepard anti-aircraft tank can do that

Machine guns for 35-millimeter projectiles, speeds 65 kilometers per hour and weighs 47.5 tons: Germany now wants to deliver tanks to the Ukraine - the Gepard models, (Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) which have been decommissioned for ten years. The profile....


spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/gepard-das-wichtigste-zum-flak-panzer-fuer-die-ukraine-a-559b8b47-5cba-4734-af98-f116a39d515b

In other news: Rheinmetall wants to send some real Leopards....but still needs the permission!

zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/rheinmetall-panzer-waffenlieferung-ukraine-krieg-russland-100.html

jon357
26 Apr 2022  #230

Doesn't look at all well, I'd say the old ticker is at its last gasp.

A few of them are really showing signs of ill-health, stress or both.

Russia has destroyed what was a thriving, prosperous city

Which they certainly can't afford to rebuild.

In a bit of good news from last night, the SSoD announced that as well as the 5400 NLAWs plus the Javelins and Starstreaks that we've sent, we're also sending Stormers next as well as supplying tanks to Poland to use as backfill so they can send tanks that Ukraine's tank corps are trained in. Plus fleets of ambulances and fire engines.

theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/25/uk-military-aid-to-ukraine-could-rise-to-500m-mps-told

Everything helps, the orcs are losing, and I was impressed when he said the aim isn't just the post 2014 borders but also to thoroughly de-orc Crimea and Donbas.

amiga500
26 Apr 2022  #231

It seems the pressure worked....now Germany sends some older stuff:

yeah yeah let's see if it actually happens, those tanks have been decommissioned, who knows if they even run? Prob stripped for 'green recycling'. Sholz still doing the minimum under intense pressure from USA (and Poland)

"The Gepard tanks are no longer in use by Germany's military but stored at a company depot. It's unclear when the tanks will be ready for use."

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-26/germany-to-send-50-gepard-anti-aircraft-tanks-to-ukraine

Bratwurst Boy
26 Apr 2022  #232

yeah yeah let's see if it actually happens,

Oh it gets even better: Even when we send some heavy weapons Ukraine is not getting any ammunition for them!

Swiss veto German request to re-export ammunition to Ukraine

reuters.com/world/europe/swiss-veto-german-request-re-export-ammunition-ukraine-paper-2022-04-24/

Neutral Switzerland has held up German arms deliveries to Ukraine by blocking the re-export of Swiss-made ammunition used in Marder infantry fighting vehicles that Kyiv would like to get, Swiss paper SonntagsZeitung reported.

....

"Both of Germany's requests were answered in the negative with reference to Swiss neutrality and the mandatory rejection criteria of the war material legislation," it quoted the spokesperson as saying....


🙄

Hier ist der Wurm drin!

Atch
26 Apr 2022  #233

there won't be any gay parades in Mariupol, only Russian military marches from now on.

And don't forget the Russian rapists of young boys and men. Some of the bodies of men in Bucha had been raped. The rape of small boys is not really surprising of course in a country where four and five year old boys are paid to perform oral sex on older teenage boys. Terrible sexual abuse goes on in Russia. And now the 'liberated' Mariupol residents have a chance to be part of Russian culture and society.

Mariupol before and after its 'liberation' by Russian rapists and paedophiles, Christmas 2021, and Easter 2022:






Bratwurst Boy
26 Apr 2022  #234

What they say? If someone protest to much.....it seems the old guard did like their gay couples very much....even with marriage and children!





....and who could ever forget these "brotherly kisses"!

😆

Atch
26 Apr 2022  #235

What they say? If someone protest to much

That's it exactly BB.

For anybody who has read any amount of Russian social history, including the accounts of travellers over the nineteenth and twentieth century, it's well known that there is a terrible culture of paedophilia and a fair amount of incest in the Siberian peasant families. Public rapes even as a form of punishment to 'rebellious' wives was quite well known and eyewitnessed by many.

Disgusting country.

Novichok
26 Apr 2022  #236

Which is the least relevant fact possible....

It's supremely relevant. Why do you think Russia is now in Ukraine but not in Mongolia? Because they have great weather?

Terrible sexual abuse goes on in Russia.

How about some context? In the US, 1 in 4 girls will be sexually abused before reaching 18. Boys: 1 in 6. Duh! But it's always Russia, Russia...
Did you know that Russia elects US presidents?

Sholz still doing the minimum under intense pressure from USA (and Poland)

Maybe because he is a Germany-first kind of guy?

My respect for Germany is way up now. No, it's not a German war. It's between two Soviet ex-republics.

mafketis
26 Apr 2022  #237

a terrible culture of paedophilia and a fair amount of incest in the Siberian peasant families

I think a lot of that dates to the Russian domostroy (think domowy ustroj)* which had lots of sick things in it (IIRC men could sleep with their daughters-in-law). The system was supposedly disregarded but lots of it lives on in the daily lives of the serfs....

One of the sources of difference between Ukraine and Russia is that Ukraine never had anything like domostroy and they lack the subservience to power and meek acceptace of violence from the powerful that are so characteristic of Russian society....

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domostroy

Bratwurst Boy
26 Apr 2022  #238

My respect for Germany is way up now.

No need though....we as a country don't work well right now, definitely not as we are used to....and that's not only about Ukraine!

Atch
26 Apr 2022  #239

it's always Russia, Russia...

The thread is about Russia. And the big difference between sexual abuse in Russia and the USA is that it's culturally acceptable in Russia.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Apr 2022  #240

....maybe it's the sexual oppression which brings soldiers to rape enemy civilians? That they get the feeling (and the permission from their superiors) that they now can do that what they always wanted unpunished?

If Russia would be more "degenerate" like the West that would stop too?


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