Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

Some Bad news, it looks like russia are setting the scene to move into 'Transdnistria'. Some good news, they only have 2000 orcs there and they're all in one handy place.


Normal in their army. People pay to spend the night in the barracks and a great deal more. Desperate people since they are all scrawny and underfed. It's not that extreme in Poland however there are certainly elements of that culture


Yes, there were issues about ammunition in rotting boxes covered with black mould, also allegedly stuff dating back to WW2 which is surprising they were allowed to keep.

And the evidence of that is...

You know they found flechettes in the bodies in Bucha, which are a kind of ammunition dating back to WW1.


As Maf once pointed out, I'm not your research assistant. Go and find out for yourself you lazy old goat.

Even if you go to the trouble to provide citations he doesn't read it (or can't understand it). Useless.... just plan useless, like t|ts on a boar hog as my mother used to say....

That WW2 "stuff" is useful only in the US-style police actions or against a much weaker opponent. In Iraq, simple IEDs were very effective against the world's biggest superpower.


You should be your own research assistant and do your research before you decide to spread your emotional manure here.


He does because he needs it to debate bs-ers.

So how are Ukrainian values different from Russian values?

200 words should be enough (feel free to go up to 300 if necessary).

By tomorrow at noon is your deadline.

Spelling counts!

Google it.

So, in other words, you have no clue and aren't about to trouble yourself to try and find out. Story of your life really, isn't it?

This is getting too embarrassing...The world's greatest superpower goes after the girl Putin made love to...Wow! Who is next? His Polish cleaning lady? From msn.com:

Putin's alleged mistress is possible U.S. sanctions target

Or will it be his cat?


Since when am I obligated to support your claims? Your claims, you support them or admit where they really come from.

Anything and anybody that he loves to show him what it feels like before he dies, Walt.

Could someone tell me why France always stays on the sideline and only does the minimum or less to help in the war ?
They are giving Ukraine a $100 million.
Our lotto game here in the U.S. last week was $400 million to put what a drop in the bucket a $100 million is.
But after the elections things are looking up.
Macron has given a green light for the delivery of modern artillery pieces to Kiev that could help stem Russia's new offensive in the east of the country.

Hats off, it's a good start !
Firing six rounds per minute over 40 kilometers (25 miles) or more, the truck-mounted Caesar cannons will allow Ukrainian crews to pound Russian troops from afar, then move and pound them again.

That represents a step up in France's assistance to Ukraine.

How will _you_ ever learn if _I_ google things?

Actually, I was referring to your own inability to support your claims when requested to do so by Maf and your response was 'google it'. You've got to stay on your toes on this forum Novikins.

Just in:


True?

focus.de/politik/ausland/wegen-ausbleibender-rubel-zahlungen-bericht-russland-stellt-gas-lieferungen-an-polen-ein_id_89934579.html

According to a media report, Russia has stopped supplying gas to Poland. This is justified by the fact that Poland continues to refuse to pay for the gas in rubles. The report also causes great uncertainty on the stock exchanges. The Dax fell significantly before the close of trading.

According to "Onet", one of the largest Polish news portals, the announcement of the gas delivery stop was confirmed by both government circles and industry. An ultimatum from the Russian side had expired on Friday, which had asked Poland to pay for deliveries in rubles from now on. However, this would have overturned the sanctions against Russia following the attack on Ukraine. However, the Russian side did not inform Poland of the reason for the stop, the report says.

What claims?

Awe, come on Slippery, she got you again.
She is smarter and much more clever than you are, Walt.
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RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany - Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told a gathering of military leaders in Germany that Ukraine's "resistance has brought inspiration to the free world and even greater resolve to NATO" - and that Russian President Vladimir Putin "never imagined that the world would rally behind Ukraine so swiftly and surely."

I've had IEDs come down on me in Iraq; basically big fireworks, most of them, that have fizzled out before you get to the shelter.


Yes, it is:

" A black man from Namibia remained to defend the honor of the Hitler family, congratulations on the fact that he will not change his name."

"Putin is the greatest European leader since Napoleon and Adolf Hitler."

" So was the Germans responsible for WW2 or not? The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html"

About the gas, fortunately Poland's reserves are 70% full and we're coming towards summer when domestic demand is lower. Plus of course, town gas is very easy to make if you have brown coal, and Poland does not lack that

And now russia is threatening to target diplomats in Kyiv.

If it were proven than an embassy was deliberately targeted, pretty well every russian diplomat in the world would be immediately arrested so I think we can describe this as typical russian **** and wind.

Now I wonder when they will cut off Germany....we pay in Ruble only too....but here gas is more important to the industry!

I suspect most people here are thinking more about Poland

Prices generally for gas will rise (17% surge today) and at least Poland has a clean conscience by not collaborating with russia by paying in their currency.

It will have a huge effect on Polish industry and the third sector too; anything that uses energy to make it or sell it will be affected, however Poles are very used to dealing with adversity

At least it's come at the least bad time of the year for domestic consumption, however I've been warning about price rises for consumer goods caused by increased costs for a long time. Poland does at least have coal and as I mentioned, town gas is extremely easy to make, and Poland as a country has a lot of friends who I hope will help.

NATO has been involved since the get go.
Tthe U.S. gave Ukrainian forces detailed intelligence about exactly when and where Russian missiles and bombs were intended to strike, prompting Ukraine to move air defenses and aircraft out of harm's way, current and former U.S. officials said.

That near real time intelligence - sharing also paved the way for Ukraine to shoot down a Russian transport plane carrying hundreds of troops in the early days of the war, the officials say, helping repel a Russian assault on a key airport near Kiev.

This can't be making Putin happy; in fact, he looks like he is about to take his last breath very soon.

....some say he has Parkinson...

or:

...It is one of the most extensive investigations that revolves around Putin's state of health and is currently going through the media. A team of independent Russian journalists reconstructed Vladimir Putin's medical records as part of a research project. What journalists Mikhail Rubin, Dmitry Sukharev, Mikhail Maglov, Roman Badanin and Svetlana Reuter found out: Vladimir Putin may still be suffering from the consequences of a riding accident.....

Accordingly, the Kremlin boss appeared less and less after a serious fall from a horse in 2012. There is much to suggest that the injuries were more serious than Putin would have us believe, according to research by the Russian journalist team "The Projekt". According to this, Putin was still clearly limping after the accident, withdrew more and more and had himself cut out of TV recordings. An operation was necessary, it was said in private in the Kremlin. Allegedly, several doctors were ordered to the Kremlin Palace. Among them is the senior doctor Oleg Myshkin, who was awarded the title of "Honored Doctor of Russia" in 2017....

Very valuable intelligence too. A game changer. Bellingcat as well (if you aren't familiar with them, they're worth reading about).

I don`t know why Britain provoke Russia. Its rather stupid.

Find out what?

Quoting:

Humanitarian corridor for civilians from Mariupol sabotaged by Kiev - Russia
A new attempt to evacuate civilians purportedly holed up at Mariupol's Azovstal plant has been "cynically disrupted," Moscow says

A new attempt to set up a humanitarian corridor to evacuate civilians allegedly trapped at the besieged Azovstal steel mill in Mariupol has failed, the Russian military admitted late on Monday. Moscow and Kiev have blamed one another for the evacuation attempt yielding no result.

Did you notice, dear children, how RT properly uses the word "allegedly"?

That aside, we don't know for sure which side is telling the truth. Lacking that certainty, we can reason that Z has a strong interest in keeping this case smoldering for as long as possible whereas P's interest is to close it ASAP and without additional casualties to finally claim full control over the city.

Using the more-likely-than-not approach, it's reasonable to conclude that the P side is telling the truth because the current situation is not to their benefit. The Z side, on the other hand, is lying because the current situation is to their benefit. Cookies are in the back of the classroom.

Have you noticed how stupid quoting RT is?

Here's the head longing for censorship and the ability to shut down voices she disagrees with....

twitter.com/search?q=simoyan%20censorship&src=typed_query

Here she is (the head of RT) praising the total censorship of China and wishing that Russia had the same...

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1514339222118883334

Only gullible idiots believe anything RT puts out (unless well documented by non-RT sources).

@Novichok

Sorry Rich,but I think that your logic here is totally cockeyed.

For the last hundred years and more, nobody has been able to trust what Russians say.
Like you, I grew up in the pre internet years when we only had radio.
I listened to the BBC World Service, VOA, Tirana and Moscow.

Tirana and Moscow always lied.

Even as a kid, I knew they were lying.

You, as a mature person, must be able to understand that they are still lying but just through different mediums.

I used to like Radio Sofia and Radio Bucharest. Pointless propaganda, but entertaining. The funny thing on Radio Moscow was the fake letters allegedly written by people in the U.K. with not quite credible names and towns.

There are parallels with the onslaught of kremlin trolling on social media, especially at the moment, Quora. It's unconvincing and fairly obvious. Russia must spend a lot of effort on it. Poland do it too, however on a far smaller scale it's and odder and more chaotic people, including one or two here over the years who know who they are.

One key element among many about the current war is that Maskirovka no longer works as well as it once did. The Revolution may not be televised, however this war is filmed on phones and uploaded instantly.

Russian state TV admits they need more bot farms to work against "enemy audiences"....

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1514422628009881600

Anyone who takes anything any Russian government figure (or media) says at face value is.... just not very smart....

Yeah!

I remember those!

Now the orcs are kidnapping and threatening to kill children in Luhansk in order to force their mothers to get information on the Ukrainian war effort. It's hard to be lower than a russian nowadays.

And in Transnistria they're sending fake SMSs to residents there, pretending to be from the Ukrainian government. claiming there are incoming missiles. They did similar things to people close to me in Ukraine. It got to the point that people weren't going to the bomb shelters because nobody trusted SMS messages. It was solved by Ukrainians calling at people's homes in person.

Impossible I would say.
They are complete and utter animals, as they have been for well over a century now.
If not throughout their sad history.


They would be really stupid to attack there too, given their already stretched resources.
But hey, we have seen tons of Russian stupidity lately.