Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

guys this is big. Duda and Zelensky today:

i.imgur.com/DfSs2AF.png

D and Z are just useful idiots. This war is between the US and Russia plus proxies.

It is sort of symbolic how Azovstal was the place where the Azov batallion proved their mark into history and showed the world what fighters they are. both Azovstal it seems it bears their name and was meant like almost foretold to be this great historic battle or place where heroes were made.

sukces.rp.pl/sztuka/art36337931-autor-slynnego-zdjecia-z-azowstalu-dziekuje-z-miejsca-mojej-smierci-i-zycia

Russians aren't Slavs, they are Eurasian.

read the comments here if you have facebook:
facebook.com/221428294549272/posts/8249295191762502/

and you dont think polish people are inborn nationalists and racists? mafkeis?

thrynare ral bright people and interested in new cultures arent they mafkeis? bardzo zainteresowani ludsie swiatem i kultur those pollacks.

Random observation here, but all the big Russian supporters and Putin fans also have a preoccupation with homosexual activity. Each and every one of these Putin lovers posts about homo's or complains about them. Must be that they really are just closet gays. Simple observation based on the evidence.

Meanwhile in the real war where Russian criminals are getting killed by the tens of thousands, reports of Russians deserting keep coming in. Evidence of war crimes now on display in Davos at the former Russia House now aptly renamed Russia War Crimes House. And Lithuania is now off the Russia fossil fuel purchasing program. Once again, when the war ends, and everyone is done purchasing Russian natural resources, Russia will flood other markets with oil in order to recoup losses and it will force prices into historic lows. A little pain now for us, and decades for Russia. Happy gulag biatches!

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Wow... Really... I mean... wow...

Bobko, I wonder if you're that ignorant or completely devoid of any empathy?

Poles were deported against their will from their own homes, put into cattle trains and transported to remote locations in appaling conditions. Not everyone survived those "trips". Those that survived were thrown out of trains on the bare ground with no food and no place to live.

The family of the mother of my former boyfriend was one of those Polish families who were deported to Kazakhstan. They had to cook nettle soup in order to survive. But, hey, at least they got to know some Kazakhs! lol That makes it OK! WTF??? Are you for real???

Btw, that former boyfriend of mine hated Russia and Russians with a passion. I'm guessing he would disagree with you about the "benefits" of Stalinist deportations.


It is brutal and cruel. Forcing war refugees to go to a state which invaded their country is wrong and traumatic enough. The worst thing is though that they often can't get out of there, because they're sent to very distant locations in Russia. Many of those people are from Mariupol - they have nothing, no money and escaped Mariupol and other places as they stood - with just their clothes on. Since many of those people were sent to very remote locations and they have no money and no passports it's virtually impossible for them to get out of Russia.


It's photoshopped lol

any of you guys watch this guy or his vblog? hes got a good gig going it seems. living care free in nice hot tropical and full of russians cypress and defending putin and showing the viewers the beauty he lives near while he walks around talking and filming:

youtube.com/watch?v=xqve5DC4Hfo

PolIAmKrakow have you seen his vids? I guess he isnt totally biaed for russia or putin but is leaning that way?

He's a Russian shill*, he and his blogging partner were trying to pretend Putin's tired and lame May 9 speech was some kind of serious statement worthy of close attention.

You think the guy supports himself by doing a couple of youtube videos a day? Shill..

I've even seen Putin supporters write that information from those two can't be trusted....

*a step up from a troll-farm, I would bet a lot that the two of them are paid by the Russian government (maybe indirectly) to produce their zhopnik blather

mafkeis there was an article on onet.pl that cyprus welcomes russians with open arms. hes not even russian though or doesnt look like it or sound by his accent more like a greek guy or something.

"You think the guy supports himself by doing a couple of youtube videos a day? Shill.."

did you see how many subscribers he has? im sure he also probably sells affiliate links, goods or other stuff off the subscribors he has. EVen king kobra jfs does this and support shimself just based on his youtube channel and he only has like 5k subscribers. this guy has like a million. A single one of his videos I am sure he makes at least a couple of hundred bucks do you know that can be enough to live on in poland thats big money thats like with todays dollars exchange rate over 400 zloty a day just based on one video.

@Strzelec35
You make a good point for a change. Yes that is not bad money in Poland. And people will do and say anything for money. Cyprus has long been a hideout for criminals of many nations, not just Russia.

ppl in twitter say 2 battalions of polish troops been spotted in Ukraine. wonder how much truth in this. duda dragging poland into trouble if thats true

He's actually American of Greek origin IIRC and was living in Greece for awhile. His partner is British of cypriot ancestry I think.

Cyprus welcomes anyone with money with wide open legs....

When I visited a few years ago the border guard didn't care to look at my Polish residence card (generally necessary at European border points). "Just invest here, and you can stay as long as you want." he meant it jokingly, but....

Signs in Russian, Arabic and Chinese everywhere advertising probably dodgy investment schemes...

And if he's not on the take then he should be, never any criticism of Putin and never mentions things like forced mass deportations or massive corruption or the fires going on or the rock star getting arrested for not being sufficiently pro-Putin etc.

A shill.

I wish someone would start a Russian shill watch (like the channels exposing shills for the Chinese government)

youtube.com/c/CCPShillBusters

So? Novichok isn't Russian either (or so he claims). You aren't Russian. Journalists working in Russia Today aren't Russian.


Polish troops or Polish volunteers? There's a difference, you know.

they say its unclear, they armed with 2 anti armor guns and US made personal carriers. my guess ,those are polish army volunteers,battalions created by poland gov. from volunteering soldiers.so if they get cought ,Poland will say ,they are mercs. green people kinda thing.

warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2022/05/have-polish-troops-entered-russian.html

1003wnysr.forumotion.com/t498-bulletin-polish-troops-have-entered-ukraine-war

Why do you think that? Earlier during the invasion I've read an article about Polish volunteers. There are volunteers fighting on the Ukrainian side from different countries, so why not from Poland of all countries? There are also volunteers from Belarus. Don't tell me that you think they were sent by Lukashenko lol :))

One of the volunteers on the Ukrainian side is, for example, Sandra Andersen Eira from Norway. She's a fisherman and was a member of the Sámi Parliament of Norway. Now she's a combat medic in Ukraine:

facebook.com/100057744472572/posts/448850937049718/

There's even a legion made up of Russians (Russian POWs and deserters, according to Ukrainian authorities):

wiadomosci.wp.pl/rosjanie-walczacy-w-ukrainie-schwytali-rosjan-ktorzy-przybyli-walczyc-w-ukrainie-6770997993667072a

It's called "Freedom of Russia" Legion:

odessa-journal.com/arestovich-told-interesting-facts-about-the-freedom-of-russia-legion/

belsat.eu/pl/news/11-04-2022-legionowi-wolnosc-rosji-wydano-ukrainskie-mundury-foto/

Nice hug here:

rp.pl/dyplomacja/art36345991-polska-ukraina-zaczelismy-pisac-nowy-tom-naszej-wspolnej-historii

there is a difference between mercenary and green man.its one thing allowing own people to fight as mercenary. which is bad already,but its a huge escalation to sent green man. and it meant direct participation in conflict. green man are formed ,,armed and paid by the polish government.its a very thin line between green man and soldiers from armed forces. they basically polish soldiers sent there without geneva conv cover.outside of rules of armed engagement

Not as mercenaries. As volunteers. There's a difference between mercenaries and volunteers. Mercenaries fight for money and volunteers fight for idealistic reasons. The Wagner Group are mercenaries, as far as I understand. Russia was also actively seeking for mercenaries among Syrian soldiers offering them a lot of money to fight on the side of Russia.


I understand what the term "green men" means - it was already introduced in 2014 when Russia sent their "green men" to Crimea and Donbass region. But what proof you or anyone else have to support this claim that there are Polish "green men" in Ukraine?

what proof? i said it would me "MY GUESS" IF this information is true!! based on logic and reason. if we consider this info as a fact, then it would mean that those are green man. 2 battalions made entirely of polish nationals and armed entirely with polish gear, would clearly indicate the nature of this formation. isnt it how we got "proofs " about Russian green man- based on their nationality and equipment they used??

And I asked you why you're more inclined to make such a guess rather than that those are Polish volunteers (such guess would be also based on logic and reason and much more probable).


No, it wouldn't.
Firstly, there are other battalions made up entirely of one nationality, like Belarusians and Russians.
Secondly, volunteers are often going to Ukraine with their own gear. Ukraine is getting Polish gear both from the Polish state and from NGO's and private people from Poland driving with this stuff to Ukraine and giving it directly to units in Ukraine. So, it would be only logical if those alleged Polish battalions were getting Polish gear too.


People in Twitter? What people?

Also, what does "Polish gear" mean anyway? Made in Poland? You realise that Polish soldiers use all kinds of gear, not only one produced by Polish companies, right? Especially Polish Special Forces. If there were any Polish "green men" sent to Ukraine then those would be special operators, I imagine. And they're more likely to use Western gear, rather than Polish, because it's usually of better quality.

people. a spiece,called homo sapiens .they exist in this world. they have 2 legs 2 arms, ears, eyes.most of them at least.
jokes aside. most info about it ,comes from russian side. war gonzo reported about this. many other too. but they seem to report each other. dont know the primary source.

gonzo is pro russian but he has alot legitimate info. he has good sources


in this instance - its gear used by polish army. alien to ukrainian army. us made apc-s ect. not reported being delivered to ukra

@gregy741, don't pretend that you don't know what I mean when I ask "what people":


There you go.


Then my guess is that it's Russian propaganda being spread by gullible gossipers.


So that's the claim from those Twitter people, yes? Any proof for that? Nope. So that's just a gossip. Anyone can write anything.

Besides, do you think we know everything about what has been delivered by NATO to the Ukrainian army by now?

yes. twitter people, telegram people ect.. places bazzzziliiion times more reliable than your cnn bbc garbage.or ukra defense spokesman idiocies
places full of conflicts following enthusiasts and on site reporters.with connections to locals ,local commanders ect.
pro russian sources are far more reliable than western. by a million miles.just need to know who to avoid,people who fabricate things.

@gregy741, I'm sure there's some genuine content on Telegram, but it's also rife with disinformation, probably coming from both sides.


No, they aren't :D


And how do you decide who fabricates things and who doesn't? You were rather quick to make a guess based on some unproven gossip.

Of course I am not so naive to think the BBC or. CNN don't have agendas m, especially after COVID, reporting in Biden etc.

But I will still take them over Russian sources given that hostile journalists there are murdered and imprisoned

its simple,but require some time.you build and follow people who report facts,,never cough lying and unfollow people who spawn garbage. i followed syria conflict religiously,and know who to read if i want information. back then ANNA news was amazing,absolutely stunning reporting from war,with drone footage.of course, western countries ban it now. i think gonzo is fro ANNA news.

the time verifies every gossip or propaganda lie.

@gregy741, the problem is that you're not objective yourself. You're clearly on the Russian side. And, as I wrote, you were quick to make a guess based on a gossip being repeated without any proof or even a source given. So, somehow I'm not confident in your ability to differentiate between credible and not credible sources...


To be honest, if there are any "green men" in Ukraine, whether from Poland or from the West - we'll probably never find out about it anyway, so I think arguing about it is pretty pointless.

Judging by Poland's reaction to the proposal of sending fighter jets to Ukraine though - I doubt that Polish government has sent our "green men". For training Ukrainian troops - maybe. But not for regular combat. Poland doesn't seem to want to get involved directly in the war. That's only my guess, of course :)

Telegram seems to have turned into tik tok for war nerds (and shut ins with violent tendencies....)