Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

For export. Polish consumers, for example, would prefer Latinic brands over Cyrillic. ;)

And now a piece of fun numerology, for better sleep...

WWI: 28.07.1914 - 28+07+19+14=68
WWII: 01.09.1939 - 01+09+19+39=68
WWIII: 24.02.2022 - 24+02+20+22=68

@Velund, wow, thanks, you just provided a numerological evidence that Putin is the new Hitler lol o_O


...won't be buying Russian products:

rp.pl/handel/art35776281-bojkot-towarow-z-rosji-ogromna-skala-zaangazowania-polakow

Yes, I can definitely see a pattern here. Remind me again: how did WWI and WWII end for the countries who started them? :)

The strongest leaders grow up in countries that the Anglo-Saxons tried to trample into the mud. This does not mean that Putin is the new Hitler, every case is unique. It does mean that the Anglo-Saxons will be looking for someone to pay in blood for their failed backroom intrigues. The Ukrainians will run out soon, even now a friend who is engaged on a short-term contract to repair trophy Ukrainian T-64s for transfer to the DNR/LNR militia says (according to people from the front lines, who bring them another iron) that at the positions a significant part of the replenishment is the meat, who first picked up machine guns a couple of weeks ago.

Apart from the Poles, there is no one to be next. Baltic - don't make my slippers laugh, there is nobody to fight there, except for running around the Labanoras forest with rifles and robbing the peasants for food.


Let's return to this matter after all peace treaties will be signed, and all survivor states known. ;)

@Velund
Are you going to send anyone to pick up the tens of thousands of rotting Russian soldiers bodies? Tens of thousands. What about your military officers telling Putin to order at least a partial mobilization? Need to fill in for over 30K killed and another 50 to 60K wounded.

Apart from the Poles? Interesting. I would laugh my balls off at what the US soldiers would do to you meatballs. 40K of them here in Poland now and another 60K throughout Europe with a whole lot more who could be here in less than 12 hours. In a traditional war you cant beat Ukraine, you want to try Poland with everyone here? Thats just a quicker end to Russia.

Have you seen this in person, or do you just believe Western MSM propaganda?

So far Russian troops have been forced to bury the bodies of Ukrainian soldiers by the thousands, because the blessing of a blacked-out sense of smell is not given to everyone.

The truth is that Ukrainian corpses are not always just dumped.

t.me/ostashkonews/12905

Nikita Lazarenko, commander of the 36th Brigade, tells us in a video how he buried his dead soldiers and reported to the commanders that they defected. With such a development of events no payments to the families are due.

And now, a couple of thoughts from a parallel reality...

Britain and Lithuania are going to send warships to the Black Sea to protect the Ukrainian vessels with grain without asking Turkey

The Times writes that London and Vilnius have been very active in this direction and are already negotiating with their NATO allies.

"A coalition of the willing" will seek to break the Russian blockade in a matter of weeks by providing a "protective corridor" from Odessa through the Bosporus. Such a corridor was discussed yesterday at a meeting between Lithuanian Foreign Minister Landsbergis and British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss," the publication reported.

The Montreux Convention? No, haven't heard that one. Onyx missiles? These are all cartoons...

And one more thing...

The Verkhovna Rada has hit another bottom by proposing to legalize the killing of Ukrainian soldiers by commanders. An MP from Zelensky's "Servant of the People" party, Maryana Bezuglaya, insisted that commanders be allowed to shoot to kill Ukrainian soldiers in combat situations who do not follow their orders or who have taken it upon themselves to defect from the battlefield.

In the style of the Kiev regime, "beat your own so that others will be afraid. But here is this same "servant of the people" back in December 2019 joined the association "Humane Country," created to protect animals.

A quick shows this being repeated on Twitter with identical wording and all from russian fake news sources.


Turkey is in NATO. However much russia wishes they weren't.

I can see some fatigue with the topic. In addition, ruthenian trolls are very active and multiplied quantitatively. There is a danger the trolls will win this ruthenian-Ukrainian war on PF. This cannot be allowed.

...or NATO from expanding.


Nice posters - Oh, look, dead baby.
Trolls - Oh, look, NATO.
Does this about sum it up?

Major Cognitive Dissonance Incoming....

Noam Chomsky and now Henry Kissinger both say Ukraine should cede land to Russia....

Kissinger said this at Davos, at the World Economic Forum (devotees of covid lockdowns and great resets)....

Does this make Klaus Schwab an.... ally of Putin?

How will the non-Russian zhopniks square that circle?


And what pray tell is the mechanism for NATO "expansion" what drives it?

And what pray tell does that matter to Russia?
Iraq had every right to develop its WMDs. That didn't stop the snake from attacking it and killing thousands.

More wrong than right usually.


Where he was firmly in the minority, fortunately.

Keep NATO from expanding? Interesting. Ukraine told "no" to NATO membership. Russia invades Ukraine. Finland and Sweden apply to NATO after seeing the invasion. Sounds to me like Russia needs to stop giving people the reason to be nervous and want to join if you ask me. Self fulfilling prophecy really. Now, Sweden and Finland will get in and Putin said it wont change much of anything. So, NATO is not the problem, and not the reason for the war. Putin is the problem and the reason. The sooner he is taken out the better for everyone.

Now as for WMD, wasn't if Saddam who killed and gassed his own people? You know about 5000 women and children gassed in the Iran Iraq war? Like he had a track record of doing it, so easy to see why he may have WMD and do it again. Like Syria gassed their own. Maybe we want to bring up Afghanistan again after 9/11? any other Fing stupid arguments?

@Velund
And you know what your fearless Putin will do if they break the blockade? Nothing. The second he attacks a ship helping move grain the Black Fleet disappears for more repurposing like the Moscow.

Banned from entering Russia are biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, former First Lady and Secretary of State Crooked Hillary Clinton, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, and even actor Morgan Freeman yet former President Trump is not on that list.

Interesting.....

Which would reduce Zelensky's profit margin.

Captured AFU soldier urges his fellow soldiers to lay down their arms

youtu.be/_DDLAjfWNZ0

Spasibo! this guy is right! the smart and honorable thing is to NOT fight and die for some jew world order war criminals eager to sacrifice ukrainians to the very last...

Is he still alive?? He must be about a hundred... he seems to have been around forever.

Really, something significant will start much earlier. The second that NATO ships will ignore Turkey and break through straits to black sea, breaking Montreaux convention, world become a bit different and less friendly place. In addition, attack from territory of any NATO country give Putin (according to published military doctrine) the right to attack decision making centers, that is not only on this continent, of course.

@Atch

I hear ya! Apparently his mind is as sharp as ever.

What I notice from the posts of our Russian 'comrades' is what absolute war mongers they are. They really seem to relish the prospect of conflict. It's very peculiar. It's as if Ukraine is not enough and they're champing at the bit to get at the entire European continent plus the USA. Strange, strange people.

@johnny reb
Interesting indeed. And the "left" feeling like they need to do everything according to some political play book is just stupid. Biden's comments regarding Putin being a war criminal, or defending Taiwan shouldn't have to be walked back or be politically correct. Call a spade a spade.

@Velund
Turkey is not going to stand in the way when they want new planes from the US that will magically appear in order to make this and Sweden and Finland NATO members.

Not so strange. We took very expensive hutzpah lessons from Americans, so why not test our hard-earned knowledge in practice? ;)

Turkey participation in NATO is not related to Montreaux convention, and probably Montreaux will outlive NATO. If Turkey will break Mothreaux in favor of NATO, we may see greek Constantinople quite soon, as it was promised to Greeeks by Paisios of Mount Athos...

@Velund
I think you are under the mistaken idea that once Russia breaks deals that everyone else has to stick to deals that were made. Unfortunately you are incorrect in that line of thinking. Turkey want's planes, the US will give them and Turkey will back down and allow the other allies into the Black Sea. The Greeks? Really?

When your leadership says the whole world is against you, he is completely correct. This is the absolute best opportunity to end Russia as we have all known it. All the mongoloid idiots over the last century that have ruled, and all the inbred mongoloids who have blindly followed. Biggest waste of people and land on the planet, and you prove it every day.

Boys and girls, there is no Santa, NATO is an insurance racket, with Russia serving as the boogeyman you are supposed to fear. If you don't, you are a Russian troll.

As with any insurance, there are underwriters; in this case, it's the American taxpayers. When the sh*it hits the blades, it's the US Army plus a bunch of irrelevant metoos like Poland as decorations so the main peddler, the US swamp, can call it a "coalition".

The best proof that NATO is a swindle is the fact that the swindler, the US, moved its manufacturing base to the real enemy - communist China, a country that makes Russia look like Denmark - "democratically" speaking. You see, China has only one party, gulags, and an unsettled territorial claim. Yet, the swindler and stupid Western swindler's "allies" ship boatloads of money there - day after day.

As always, the shaft goes up the asses of the US taxpayers who are forced to spend trillions they don't have on the military swamp and almost as much as the rest of the world combined. Russia, btw, spends 10 times less.

To make things even worse, some sh*ithole like Moldova can join by filling out a piece of paper, buy a dozen ARs and get full protection that is just as good as any of the swindler's 50 states. In that sense, Moldova = Florida. No, I am not making it up. Actually, it's worse since the swindler's army is not allowed to protect his borders. Only those thousands of miles away.

To keep the racket going, the samp needs an enemy and wars. That's why the swindler has been at war for 92% of its existence. Notwithstanding, it's Russia, not China, that's a threat to your happy childhood because China is where the swindler's buddies make money.

@PolAmKrakow

A significant change, or a removal in its entirety of the Montreaux Convention - is as close a pretext to nuclear war as I can think of, short of a strike on Moscow.

Just for context's sake - the Black Sea is the origin point for nearly all Russian oil and grain exports. As early as 1939, Stalin said about the situation, that: "a small state [Turkey] supported by Great Britain held a great state by the throat and gave it no outlet".

During WW2 the Montreaux Convention served to keep Axis navies out of the Black Sea, forcing the Germans and Italians to bring small crafts overland by rail. The effect this had on Axis campaigns in the Caucasus, and on their invasion of Crimea is incalculable.

Between 1946 and up to the death of Stalin, there was the "Turkish Straits" question, where the USSR insisted on its right to control the Bosporus Strait and maintain fortifications along its length.

The reason Soviet/Russian aircraft carriers are officially termed "aircraft-carrying cruisers" is so that we can be the only country to move them in and out of the Black Sea.

Long story short: if Montreaux is amended to allow non-Black Sea fleets to enter freely, or if Erdogan builds his parallel canal that is not regulated by Montreaux, there will be hell to pay.

What hell to pay LOL? - send your crappy ships full of drunk sailors over. Hows that Black Sea fleet going ?

@Bobko
But this is where you just don't get it. You think Russia will nuke anyone? They wont and neither will the US. And if they do, its all over for everyone, so be it. All the sabre rattling and dire threats? No one fears Russia any more. Dont you see that? Ukraine is kicking your a$$ and NATO hasn't done anything but provide weapons, and not even the real good ones yet. Make no mistake, the grain will get out of Ukraine one way or another so you thieves cant destroy or steal it all. Nothing but a criminal country that needs to be destroyed.

@cms neuf

Well, for starters we can make life very hard for their little friend, Azerbaijan, with whom they have a budding bromance. Would be very embarrassing for Erdogan, if the results of the Karabakh War were reversed.

In Syria, we can stop holding off Assad, and instead help him regain sovereignty over his country's western borderlands. In the process we would be aiding the Kurds, for whom Assad is only a secondary concern.

In regards to Turkey proper, well, there were always concerns that the Soviet republics of Georgia and Armenia could have benefited from being slightly larger. Georgia, ingrates that they are, don't deserve help now - but Armenia, why not.

This is on top of suspending tourist flights (main source of income for Turkish tourism industry is Russians), suspending gas deliveries, grain cargos, and banning their companies from doing business in Russia (Turkish construction companies have built half of Moscow).

Yes, we have noticed that your cruisers are multi-purpose vessels. Some are even under-water cruisers.


Don't you ever get tired with those empty threats? You tried to defeat Ukraine - a post-soviet, corruption-ridden, politically unstable republic, and you failed miserably. What makes you think that your threats towards NATO will cause anything else than mild amusement?

Another day, another Russian general bites the big one....

twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1529129070650335233

Roast in hell with your comrades, general invader!