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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Crnogorac3
24 May 2022  #2941

🔥🇷🇺 New footage of fire support for the Liman assault

The positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Liman area are subjected to the most powerful artillery and missile attack by the "⭕️" group, over the past 2 days an unprecedented amount of fire has fallen on the heads of Ukrainian militants.

t.me/DonbassDevushka/8279

I would choose "evacuation". It would take me roughly 4 seconds to think about it. All this is falling on Liman. Brutal.

GefreiterKania
24 May 2022  #2942

Honestly, I don't believe the amount of nonsense that is spouted in this thread by Zhopniks and co. Anyone who refuses to admit that Russia is losing is living in denial.

the most powerful artillery and missile attack

You know what Ukrainian soldiers are singing when they see this?

Rakiety tu, rakiety tam,
rakiety chuja zrobią nam!
La, la, la, la, la, la, la la,
Rakiety chuja zrobią nam.


:)

Meanwhile, some authentic news from the front:

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-rosyjski-zolnierz-nagrany-58-armia-rozbita,nId,6046851

johnny reb
24 May 2022  #2943

Billionaire George Soros warned that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has rattled Europe and could be the start of another world war.
"Other issues that concern all of humanity -- fighting pandemics and climate change, avoiding nuclear war, maintaining global institutions -- have had to take a back seat to that struggle," Soros, 91, said Tuesday at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. "That's why I say our civilization may not survive."

AND you are one of the main causes Socialist George !

jon357
24 May 2022  #2944

artillery and missile attack

President Zelenskiy did say this would be the hardest week. Don't worry though, better artillery than the orcs have is on its way.

George Soros warned that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has rattled Europe and could be the start of another world war

A wise man. I've been warning of an impending war and some sharp changes geopolitically for at least a couple of years now. It has been brewing some time and people became complacent about peace and stability.

I was called a Cassandra and a fearmonger right until 24/2 and am still. However I've been proven right so far.

" That's why I say our civilization may not survive."
Again, he is very right. As a species we are vulnerable to many risks. Overpopulation and misuse of technology among them.

I don't believe the amount of nonsense that is spouted in this thread by Zhopniks

I do. It's a mix of cognitive dissonance, deliberate propaganda and an unhealthy liking for unpleasant and authoritarian societies. Ironically they would be the first to suffer under such a regime.

Crnogorac3
24 May 2022  #2945

Billionaire George Soros warned that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has rattled Europe and could be the start of another world war.

youtu.be/1MOODnv_yrQ

Don't worry johnny reb, you and the American people can rest assured that in the event of nuclear war between the US/NATO and Russia President Putin has always said he will target those elites who order wars. They won't be safe in their underground bunkers.

mafketis
24 May 2022  #2946

Another day, another strategic fire in Russia....

this is sad, the church of Peter and Paul in Moscow (next to Kremlin) has reportedly been set on fire.

I feel bad for the building and the loss of culture and art.... on the other hand the Russian Orthodox Church is a sewer and its head, Kiril, is a truly evil and awful person....

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1529201014938537984

UPDATE: It looks like a building in the church complex is on fire... some are saying it's not an orthodox church but evangelical-lutheran.... we'll have to wait and see what's up....

jon357
24 May 2022  #2947

its head, Kiril, is a truly evil and awful person..

A vile human being and one of Putler's worst stooges. The Christian church and other religions too are not immune from evil and some would say that their essential goodness strangely attracts it. Vladimir Gundaev ('patriarch' Kirill) who has no redeeming features whatsoever, is a prime example of that.

Putin has always said he will target those elites who order wars

Vagimir Putler 'always' said that? When did he 'always' say it? And to whom?

he will target

"Target". Interesting. He may well find himself 'targeted' more effectively. The bunker he and his pigshìt generals are cowering in will not be very effective if it's under a metre of glass.

Escalation is dangerous. Very dangerous. As the name suggests, it escalates.

All potential nuclear scenarios have been gamed over the years by those whose job it is to game them. Once the second salvo is fired, very few of the possible endings on the decision tree are positive ones.

And he knows that.

Dirk diggler
24 May 2022  #2948

I would choose "evacuation"

It does sound a lot better than surrendered, destroyed, etc. I.E. "Ukraine evacuated 30 soldiers to heaven"

If corruption in Russia is worse than in Ukraine

Corruption is WAY worse in Ukraine than Russia and it's a much worse type. Corruption in Russia is more related to bribery, nepotism, etc. Corruption in Ukraine is straight up plundering of state coffers, every single year regardless of whether it's the pro-EU or the pro-Russia camp. All the money naive westerners are sending over is a huge windfall for the AFU comedian-in-charge. But of course, in remaining true to his roots, he's demanding more and more.

Anyone who refuses to admit that Russia is losing is living in denial.

Last time I checked it's Russia that's occupying swathes of Ukraine, not the other way around. Of course they're going to suffer far more casualties than the Ukrainians - they're in an offensive position and such is Russian/Soviet military doctrine.

Miloslaw
24 May 2022  #2949

, he's demanding more and more.

I will agree with you on this Adrian, he is becoming a bit too demanding.

Last time I checked it's Russia that's occupying swathes of Ukraine

Check again, they have made very little gains on what they already controlled, they are losing troops in their hundreds, and gear, morale is at an all time low and supply lines are not working.

All in all,Russia is losing this war.

Velund
24 May 2022  #2950

What experienced Jewish guy think about current situation... ;)

Poland is behaving defiantly toward the Russian Federation in the context of Ukraine, thinking that it is being protected by the United States of America. Yakov Kedmi, a military expert and former head of the Nativ service, which specialized in extracting Jews to Israel by means of special operations, explained Warsaw's fatal miscalculation on the YouTube channel Waldman-LINE.

According to Kedmi, Poland is behaving like a "mutt" under the cover of a huge and powerful beast. This is the reason for statements by Warsaw politicians like Polish President Andrzej Duda's speech about Russia's lack of desire to "fight the best army in the world" (American), which is behind the Poles.

"It's like with street thugs: there's a gang walking, and in front of him is some spitfire who bullies himself, knowing that if he is put in his place, the big thug will stand up for him. In this case, however, an unpleasant surprise awaits the spitfire Polish hero. If he thinks the United States armed forces are the best, that's his business. That's except by Polish standards. If he thinks that the U.S. armed forces will protect the scumbags of Poland's government after any sassy prank, he's wrong. Just because Poland is a member of the North Atlantic Alliance doesn't mean anything. I don't think that the United States of America and other Alliance nations will wage war for Poland. And they certainly will not wage war for it if Polish troops enter Ukraine," Kedmi said.

The specialist advised Poles to learn lessons from their history. He drew an analogy between today's situation and 1939, when Warsaw counted on the support of England and France.

"How did it end? They didn't understand anything then either, and they haven't drawn any conclusions at this point. Let them hover in their own morbid fantasies, which have already led Poland to three partitions. Do they want a fourth? And it will be the last one," Kedmi concluded.


Miloslaw
24 May 2022  #2951

@Velund

The Jewish "specialist" is an idiot.
Then was then, now is now.
If RuSSians believe that nonsense, then they are in for a big shock.

Poland will be aided by the whole of NATO.

Crnogorac3
24 May 2022  #2952

youtu.be/OkMOc4jydOg

Dirk diggler
24 May 2022  #2953

he is becoming a bit too demanding.

He's a jew, what do you expect?

All in all,Russia is losing this war.

Once Ukraine not only kicks out all the Russian forces, which they haven't been able to since 2014, regains Crimea and then all the other territories Russia snatched up in the past few months, and then starts invading parts of Russia that's when Russia will be losing the war. None of that has happened nor will it. What WILL happen is that Russia is going to gradually conquer more and more Ukranian land while the Ukranians "evacuate" - pretty much the opposite of "Russia losing"

no amount of western jewish media propoganda is going to change the reality that it's Russia that's occupying Ukraine, gradually taking more and more land despite heavy losses (not that Ukraine's losses aren't light either, and unlike Ukraine Russia can sustain personnel losses easier than Ukraine)

Bratwurst Boy
24 May 2022  #2954

Germany to Bring Back Coal Power Plants If Russia Cuts Gas

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-24/germany-to-reactivate-coal-oil-plants-if-russia-cuts-off-gas-l3jwyztk

Energy Minister Habeck reveals emergency decree for 26 plants
Move comes even if burning coal will boost carbon emissions


Great....

Novichok
25 May 2022  #2955

Quoting:

The former SPD leader said Moscow had made it clear to NATO for 20 years that Ukraine should not become part of the military alliance - a scenario, which, according to Lafontaine, would mean US missiles deployed on the Ukraine-Russia border.

"These security interests were consistently ignored," the politician said. And this was "one of the key reasons for the outbreak of the Ukraine war."


But, of course, PF posters know better. And those poor kids...

amiga500
25 May 2022  #2956

Germany has still not delivered any heavy equipment to Ukraine, sounds like a deliberate strategy to help russia win.

The German Federal Security Council has been accused of blocking the delivery of 100 Marder infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine for more than a month, according to reports in the Ukrainian media.

The online newspaper Ukrayinska Pravda claims that both the armored vehicles and the Leopard 1 tanks which had been offered to Ukraine by the defense industry company, Rheinmetall, have been held up by red tape at the German security council.

rmx.news/ukraine/ukraine-accuses-germany-of-blocking-delivery-of-armored-vehicles/

Tacitus
25 May 2022  #2957

Other countries have not delivered any tanks either but of course it is Germany who wants Russia to win...

Paulina
25 May 2022  #2958

Corruption is WAY worse in Ukraine than Russia

No, it isn't. Spots in the latest corruption indexes:

tradingeconomics.com/country-list/corruption-rank

Poland 42

Ukraine 122

Russia 136

worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-corrupt-countries

Russia 30

Ukraine 33

Poland 56

Other countries have not delivered any tanks either

But they did. Poland and the Czech Republic did.

mafketis
25 May 2022  #2959

Corruption is WAY worse in Ukraine than Russia

That's your problem, you find some factoid from the past and hold on as tight as you can despite changing evidence.

Ukraine has been trying to tackle corruption and has had some measure of success while the Russian masses (sheeple) simply passively accept it.

it is Germany who wants Russia to win...

That's certainly how it seems. Why is Lindner still in office after admitting he was ready, willing and able to deal with a Russian puppet regime in Ukraine... do you think he's changed?

Tacitus
25 May 2022  #2960

But they did

France? The UK? The USA?

the Czech Republic

To which they agreed to because they will receive German tanks in return.

Why is Lindner

Probably because he never said that in the first place. He also has stated multiple times that Ukraine must win the war.

Paulina
25 May 2022  #2961

Russia 30

Ukraine 33

Poland 56

Sorry, that's data from 2020.

Spots from that link from 2021:

Russia 29

Ukraine 32

Poland 56

amiga500
25 May 2022  #2962

they will receive German tanks in return.

Key word is 'they will' I bet that will be held up indefinitely like the heavy armour to ukraine, but you guys want to keep the czechs in your orbit ie vassals so i'm sure you will throw them some crumbs..

Letting the czechs take the brunt of russian retribution (and many sleeper russian agents in their society) whilst hiding behind their skirts is just a bit.. lame..

Bratwurst Boy
25 May 2022  #2963

....I believe Germany has alot more russian sleepers than the Czechs do....importantwise....

Tacitus
25 May 2022  #2964

I bet that will be held up indefinitely

A date has already been agreed upon.

like the heavy armour

Like other Western countries, Germany won't send Ukraine tanks, but it will send heavy artillery and (unlike other Western countries) anti air tanks once the Ukrainian soldiers have finished training.

Letting the czechs

It is easier for small countries to send weapon systems because NATO defence does not depend on their contribution. Which is why it is not especially bad that the Czech Republic won't be able to field enough tanks for several months now. If Germany or the UK did the same, it would be far more problematic.

PolAmKrakow
25 May 2022  #2965

For all the retards who do not remember, Ukraine was told no on NATO membership.

nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/politics/nato-ukraine.html

Your stupidity surrounding this claim is astounding.

@Velund
A Russian quoting a Jew? Like Satan quoting Christ. All you Russian POS underestimate the desire of soldiers as people to eliminate Russians.

amiga500
25 May 2022  #2966

....I believe Germany has alot more russian sleepers than the Czechs do....importantwise....

Maybe true, but the ruskis are bit more hesitant to kill people with mysterious heart attacks and car crashes on german soil, rather than on czech and poland soil.

Tacitus
25 May 2022  #2967

Or blowing up ammunition depots like in the Czech Republic.

GefreiterKania
25 May 2022  #2968

Do they want a fourth? And it will be the last one," Kedmi concluded.

What this "Israeli expert" says is word for word nonsense that ruSSian nazi propaganda has been spewing out for ages. *yaaaaaaawn*

America will defend Poland not because of their kind hearts or because they love us so much but because it is in their best strategic interest. For the same reason they will defend Taiwan even though they are not in NATO.

And even, in the worst case scenario, if America left her NATO ally without help (fat chance!) then how many troops would Russia have to use and lose in the invasion of Poland? More importantly, how many divisions they would have to use to permanently occupy Poland? Poland can sometimes be swallowed but it's rather difficult to digest. And for what? What would be the benefit of wasting disproportionate amounts of personnel, equipment and money to occupy a country without oil/gas/diamonds/gold etc. etc. reserves, but with legendarily defiant and rebelious population? :) Also, let's remember that never in history was Poland entirely defeated and occupied by one country. In 1939 it was Third Reich and Soviet Union, in partitions it took 3 great empires of 18th century Europe. What are the chances of puny ruSSia, with their sad circus of an army, even with the help of their neo-nazi Wagner elite troops, to defeat Poland? Zero. Z-E-R-O. It took them well over a decade to finally subdue tiny Chechenya and they are dreaming of Poland? :)

Also, we have to take God into account. What are the chances that God will grant victory to ruSSia - one of the most godless countries in history, with:

- the highest abortion rate in the world (retards who consider ruSSia to be some sort of Christian country would be well advised to take this into account lol);

- the second highest divorce rate in the world

- African-like HIV prevalence rate.

Murdering her own babies, immoral and rotten to the core - you really think God would grant victory to this monstrosity? Get real.

Crnogorac3
25 May 2022  #2969

Russia must leave Ukraine!

t.me/v_and_z/752

The new coat of arms of Melitopol. It is definitely returning to Ukraine... 😏

It does sound a lot better than surrendered

Imagine Zelensky sent his children to the UK, parents to Spain. He snorts cocaine in Kiev. The decision is simple. 😄

gregy741
25 May 2022  #2970

russian stock market recovering mighty fast. only need 22% to recover to pre war values polands wig20 tho . well to those poles here ,spawning garbage of Russian economy/currency collapse didnt know our market doing so bad under PIS.lost 20% in 6 months

google.com/finance/quote/RTSI:MCX?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjj9ezykfr3AhWKEMAKHUMSBfwQ3ecFegQIFhAg&window=6M


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