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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2971

that you want his DEATH?

I don't actively wish for his death, but.... if he ends up in Ukraine I value his life _far_ less than that of Ukrainian soldiers defending their country or civilians

my hierarchy of value of life in this conflict from highest to lowest

Ukr civilians,
Ukr, fighting forces (incl government)
skip a few spaces
russian civilians
skip lots of spaces
russian fighting forces

and several levels below that the sub-human putain...

I wish him well if he manages to avoid this insane war being fought over a stupid old tsar's vanity.... if not, then... he made his choice and he can deal with the consequences.

Paulina
21 Sep 2022  #2972

@Bobko, where have I written that I want Velund's death? In all honesty I couldn't care less whether he lives or dies. But he's a Putinist who eagerly supports this invasion, so it would be only fair if that loudmouth from Moscow ended up in the same meat grinder as those poor kids from Buryatia.

This is a person you spoke with Paulina, on multiple occasions.

So? According to you it's OK for all those Ukrainians to die just because you haven't discussed with them on the internet?? :D WTF...

Is everything ok in your head?

In MY head??? You are the one who supports this invasion and the mobilisation, not me, so in reality you're the one wishing for his death and the death of many thousands of people, you freak o_O

Bobko
21 Sep 2022  #2973

my hierarchy of value of life in this conflict from highest to lowest

This is fine. Wishing Velund meets an early death, is something that I would personally be quite upset over. I think some people here lack a realistic perspective on what's going on.

In all honesty I couldn't care less whether he lives or dies

You are a woman, so I cannot pretend to understand what happens inside your cranium. However, this statement is shocking to say the least. If I was fighting against you, I would still be depressed for quite some time if someone explained to me that you died through events in which I am involved.

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2974

High comedy in Ekaterinaburg: Guy talks big about being ready to go to Ukraine.... and gets arrested by police....

twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1572617680393322503

Paulina
21 Sep 2022  #2975

@Bobko, you're the one who lacks a realistic perspective on what's going on in the comfort of your New York armchair.

I don't actively wish for his death, but.... if he ends up in Ukraine I value his life _far_ less than that of Ukrainian soldiers

Exactly.

I wish him well

I don't. I don't wish Bobko well either. Both of those warmongers should put their money where their mouth is and end up in that meat grinder in Ukraine. They have no pity for Ukrainians, so they deserve no pity either.

If I was fighting against you, I would still be depressed for quite some time if(...) you died through events in which I am involved.

LOL
Your bad mood would make no difference to me or my close ones, because I would be... dead, you idiot. So, instead of feeling sorry for people's death, how about not killing them or advocate for their death in the first place?

You honestly make me sick.

jon357
21 Sep 2022  #2976

Wishing Velund meets an early death, is something that I would personally be quite

I'd not mourn his passing.

Looks like riots in r*SSia tonight.

It's hit home that Putler's 'partial mobilisation' will mean the certain death of many thousands of young orcs. Every plane out is full of them and we can expect more riots, more mass surrenders.

PolAmKrakow
21 Sep 2022  #2977

@Bobko
Let me be frank then. Anyone going to Ukraine, anyone actively supporting Putins war, anyone on any message board spreading propaganda, should be given the justice they deserve. That justice being a bullet or a rope. Velund has a choice. Kill, run, or be killed. If his choice is to kill, I hope he is killed. If he wants to run, I wish him luck in escaping. Thats it. Life really is simple. The same goes for all Russians. Support this war and I wish you a speedy death.

Paulina
21 Sep 2022  #2978

I would personally be quite upset over.

this statement is shocking

Are you equally "upset" and "shocked" about thousands of people dying in Ukraine? Do you feel depressed about it? lol Because it doesn't look like it.

I personally am on the other hand deeply upset and shocked by your support for RuSSian invasion of Ukraine and your lack of empathy for Ukrainian people and even for your own compatriots.

Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2979

You honestly make me sick.

cannibal

😁

jon357
21 Sep 2022  #2980

It's not going well at all for Putler tonight.

More than a thousand arrested and riots still going on.

Paulina
21 Sep 2022  #2981

@Crnogorac3, I'm not a people-eater, unlike you, Putinists.

russianzombie

🌻😎

Korvinus
21 Sep 2022  #2982

Its only prolonguing the inevitable.

Russia is about to send hundreds of thousands in an ultimately futile last rally.
Lots of Russians are going to be fielded with Warsaw Pact era gear, minimal training and bad leadership, then get told to die for Mother Russia (or die from a bullet to the back of the head).

Assuming there's even a year to this conflict. Winter is probably the main reason Russia might get time.
Right now, it's looking like the Ruskies in Kherson don't have long in this world. A defeat in Kherson would be as bad as Kharkiv, and would make Crimea immensely vulnerable.

The Ukranians can simply siege Crimea by cutting off the water, exploding the Kerch bridge and then just sit back and pound the Russians with HIMARS.

Any sea vessel bringing relief gets the Moskva treatment. Between British Harpoons and Ukranian Neptunes, being in a Russian ship in the Black Sea will become a very risky endeavour.

Once they get their manpower nice and tight in fortification to ensure no Russian comebacks, they can send the left-over manpower to where it's needed.

Even if Winter stops the tempo, I doubt the Ukranians will be idle.
If both sides stop for winter, the Ukranians will use the time to get more western weapons and train with more western system.
Who had "Ukranians flying F-16 against Sukhois over the skies of Ukraine and Abrams and T-80s dueling on the Steppe" on their bingo cards? Me neither.

Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2983

Russian spetsnaz exposed the horrific secrets of ukrainian officers.

t.me/RVvoenkor/26525

jon357
21 Sep 2022  #2984

@Crnogorac3
Do you imagine that even one person reads the crappy links you post?

Russia is about to send hundreds of thousands in an ultimately futile last rally.

If they get that far.

Right now, it's looking like the Ruskies in Kherson don't have long in this world.

Explosions there tonight and it looks closer to liberation each day.

Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2985

Well, handsome, you had all the predispositions to become a successful NATO officer, but the Russians screwed up your calculations. Striking, good physique, gay-oriented, all five, he's ticking all the boxes to rise through the NATO ranks, but sadly it wasn't to be.

jon357
21 Sep 2022  #2986

the Russians screwed up

Yes, loony, the r*SSians screwed up big time.

Nice to see orc barracks bombed and burning in Kherson tonight.

cms neuf
21 Sep 2022  #2987

I don't want anyone to die - I'm sure Velund has a family like the rest of us. But honestly Bobko what's with all the needy stuff ? He is fighting an offensive and unnecessary war on behalf of thieves and murderers.

Anyway I think the Russian troops will probably be doing a Kronstadt in the next few days.

gumishu
21 Sep 2022  #2988

This plan actually, finally, makes sense!

you are intelligent but you support this bloody conflict - you are far worse than Velund even if he goes there and kills people

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2989

offensive and unnecessary war on behalf of thieves and murderers

for an aging tsar's vanity...

Peter Zeihan on russia's horrible demographics and how putain is making them far, far worse....

short story: putain is devastating an unnaturally small generation of russians - guaranteeing a massive shrinkage of the population (already happening) and won't be able to mount any kind of military offense (or defense) in the future....

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2990

Forgot to put the link in my previous post, maybe a mod might like to...

youtube.com/watch?v=pt6sfPf1Z_Q

Miloslaw
21 Sep 2022  #2991

Too many posts to comment on and if I did, Vincent would tell me off for quoting too much.
But most of the posts on this thread have been superb.
@Paulina
@mafketis
@PolAmKrakow
@jon357
@Korvinus
@cms neuf

All great posts!
I do think that @Bobko has a degree of balance.
But the lunatic that posts as @Crnogorac3 is way out of his depth, logically,intellectually and factually.
Give it up mate, you have lost the argument and the war.

cms neuf
21 Sep 2022  #2992

Thinking about Velund and all Russian soldiers

They know what to do - to mutiny and really be able to tell their kids they did their duty to Russia by averting this disastrous defeat.

Miloslaw
21 Sep 2022  #2993

@ cms neuf
Nice post!

pawian
21 Sep 2022  #2994

you are far worse than Velund even if he goes there and kills people

Yet, some Polish posters considered him quite agreeable.

But I prepared a bag with all the things I would need in case of draft

Stop lying. You prepared the bag and boarded the flight to Georgia or Armenia. hahahaha

Russians, mostly men, on the border with Georgia, display amaSSing patriotism. All of them want to die for Putler. Far from Ukraine. hahahahaha

Miloslaw
21 Sep 2022  #2995

I reckon Putin got a bit jealous of the magnificent spectacle of the Queen's state funeral (now that's what a properly trained, disciplined military looks)

So true!

The Royal Navy sailors who drew the Queen's gun carriage are quite a contrast to the rabble that rolled into Bucha a few months ago,

Got them.where it hurts Atch!

Paulina
21 Sep 2022  #2996

Peter Zeihan on russia's horrible demographics and how putain is making them far, far worse....

It's kind of ironic that Putler is probably killing off his own voters, btw (because I'm guessing that his most brainwashed fanbase is in those poorest regions).

but you support this bloody conflict - you are far worse than Velund even if he goes there and kills people

Velund supports it too, just for different reasons. But, yeah, it's Bobko who gives me the creeps à la Dzerzhinsky/Cheka/NKVD, etc.

Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2997

youtu.be/Zdl7xzukHmI

The Army is coming

youtu.be/LrgaM1zBnws

2022 Z edition

youtu.be/YQt0XOAXRgw

Panthers

youtu.be/jWm8MvGtIjI

2022 Z edition

johnny reb
22 Sep 2022  #2998

, it's Bobko who gives me the creeps

You too ?

My colleague Velund is likely to be called up -

How about you, will you be serving your home country ?
I see on the news here that your airports in Russia are jammed with military aged men that are fleeing Russia to avoid being used for cannon fodder.

Over 20,000 Russian soldiers dead in less than six months so far.
Putin is getting desperate before he dies.

Bratwurst Boy
22 Sep 2022  #2999

Velund should do what's best for Russia, resist Putin! He is the downfall of this great country.

Russians take to the streets against partial mobilization - more than 1300 arrests

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-russen-gehen-gegen-teilmobilmachung-auf-die-strasse-mehr-als-1100-festnahmen-a-c05654b2-e566-45d3-a60e-d156f42df676

In Russia countless people are protesting against the Vladimir Putin ordered partial mobilization in the war of aggression against Ukraine. The police have so far arrested more than 1,300 people in at least 38 cities during the demonstrations across Russia, reports the civil rights organization OVD-Info .

ovd.news/news/2022/09/21/spiski-zaderzhannyh-v-svyazi-s-akciyami-protiv-mobilizacii-21-sentyabrya

In the capital Moscow 260 demonstrators were arrested in St. Petersburg 267. The largest rallies were also held in the country's two largest cities. In Moscow, people chanted and called for a "Russia without Putin"....


GefreiterKania
22 Sep 2022  #3000

Many are protesting but even more are fleeing the country. What a disaster for Putinescu!


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