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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2941

NAPOLITANO MACGREGOR KHARKOV RECENT UPDATES

In Short: " RU not sweating it " " RU destroyed offensive "
" UKRAINE will become a landlocked country "
" DUMA LEGISLATION for mobilization "
" population is pissed off at Putin , get it done "
" talks about how Putin has been taking a lot of $hit "
" its snowing in Poland " LOL

youtu.be/ueVccOhQ7C8

youtu.be/BsNbUVpeay8

The whole speech with subtitles

jon357
21 Sep 2022  #2942

If, the 300K do show up, and that is a big if

They've got to round them up, train them, equip them and deploy them. None of those are possible.

So much for political negotiations, its about to get worse for everyone.

And only r*SSia is to blame.

It would be naive to think that the military strategists and tacticians at NATO and in London and elsewhere haven't gamed every possible move, every possible option, every contingency and every fork on the decision tree.

If r*SSia is determined to have WWIII, they will get it, and they will lose. The end of r*SSia.

PolAmKrakow
21 Sep 2022  #2943

@jon357
This is the final act for Russia as we know it. All of the great writers of old Russia could have never written something like this. Such a poorly executed plan, and a poorly designed plan, would never have been able to be written in fiction. A pity for a country that could have been so much more than it is.

NATO was likely expecting a full mobilization. Partial mobilization of already trained military speeds the deployment, but not fast enough. And what weapons are these reservists and veterans going to be using? Cold war era weapons that cannot compete with NATO weapons? Right about now, everyone in Washington is trying to figure out a way to make this mobilization futile. Everyone in NATO is likely just waiting for word from Washington to start sending more and bigger weapons.

I would expect more US military arriving in the EU over the coming weeks. Putin escalates and NATO will respond. 300K to the front means a lot more body bags need to be produced, and a lot more funerals will be held. The vast majority of which will be Russian.

jon357
21 Sep 2022  #2944

Putin escalates and NATO will respond

I would expect that not only are the Trident missiles ready on the submarines, well away from the base in Scotland and primed (they could be anywhere in the world and in range of Moscow) but also the other missiles that the army doesn't talk about so much are now activated.

300K to the front means a lot more body bags need to be produced, and a lot more funerals will be held.

The time and logistics to do this would be phenomenal. Certainly above their ability.

Everyone in NATO is likely just waiting for word from Washington

They don't need to wait for that; doubtless there is much that is not in the public domain about decisions made both at the NATO HQ in Brussels and by the individual member states.

GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022  #2945

I would expect that not only are the Trident missiles ready

... and to think that it's all because one madman wanted to go into history books as the gatherer of "Russian lands" instead of enjoying his stolen $200 billion in peace. *rolls eyes*

Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2946

Exceptional feat of the Imperial Legion at Izyum

"We have already pointed out that the Russian people have two enemies in the current war. Zionist NATO war criminals and their Ukrainizing marionettes on one side, and the Russian regime in the Kremlin, on the other. The Russian soldier on the front is holding up very well considering what kind of mix of traitors, calculants and liberals rule the Russian Federation (RF) and unfortunately lead its armed forces. As we also pointed out, this war was imposed on the Russian people, but it was also imposed on the regime in the Kremlin, which did not want war, but was forced to react in order to prevent the prepared anti-Russian "Storm" in Donbass, because such an event would be too heavy a political blow for the Kremlin."

akcija.org/izjumski-podvig-imperijskog-legiona/

Interesting article from Srbska Akcija an organization which has been sending volunteers to fight in the Donbass since 2014.

twitter.com/_Goran_Gajic_/status/1559134797557121024

Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2947

... and to think that it's all because one madman wanted to go into history books

If it were only that simple... See the Twitter link posted above.

Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022  #2948

This guy is totally losing it.

The adverse effect of using narcotics.

t.me/xoxol_uk/5712

cms neuf
21 Sep 2022  #2949

You saw the crappy telephones on his desk ? Those are the kind we had in the 90s in Poland.

Kashub1410
21 Sep 2022  #2950

@Crnogorac3
What excactly do you want to achieve by posting that rubbish?

PolAmKrakow
21 Sep 2022  #2951

@cms neuf
Those phones were in US landfills in the 80's. Russia is a joke of a nation. These MF's are in the field with phones that use hard lines and electrical current supplied by a hand crank. It is technology from WW2 that the US has not used since the 60's. They of course double as torture devices when needed too.

Whats funny is all the propaganda that retards like Crnog read and devour with such verve. Mental midgets developed in Soviet systems. Idiots using Soviet era weapons on a modern battlefield. You cant make this $hit up. 300K men is the greatest admission of defeat that Putin could have made and he did it publicly. Now any Russia citizen who had some balls should be looking for a sniper rifle. Those not being mobilized will now have their economic condition become dire before the end of the year. Meanwhile, I just cleaned my rifle in the confines of my toasty warm flat, after getting a real egg McMuffin and coffee from McDonalds. Those things that will only be memories to talk about in Russia moving forward.

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2952

Exclusive footage from the first stages of mobilization!

There's _both_ a couch! and a _refrigerator_!!!! For russia, that's like the one percent! So putain must mean business!!!!!

twitter.com/SupremeDmt/status/1572535836171972609

GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022  #2953

Opposition in Russia calls for protests against Putin's criminal war...

reuters.com/world/europe/russian-opposition-calls-protests-against-putins-criminal-war-2022-09-21/

pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/21/7368416/

aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/21/russian-group-calls-for-protests-against-putins-war-mobilisation

... maybe decent Russians will finally wake up from their slumber.

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2954

maybe decent Russians will finally wake up from their slumber.

They've had six months and plenty of news about war crimes being committed in their name. If they only wake up now then... it's not because they're decent.

Bobko
21 Sep 2022  #2955

Hey fellas, interesting developments... My colleague Velund is likely to be called up - given he has always said he is a reservist tank mechanic/driver (or was it commander?). Seems his specific profession is almost certain to get called up.

Let's wish him luck!

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2956

Let's wish him luck!

I wish him luck only in avoiding the draft.

If he ends up in Ukraine, I don't care what happens to him and I'd prefer that he be a statistic rather than a killer of civilians.

johnny reb
21 Sep 2022  #2957

My colleague Velund is likely to be called up -

Plane tickets out of Russia are selling out after Putin announces partial military mobilization.
You don't think Velund will be a draft dodger, do you ?
Meanwhile, Zelensky and NATO plan to transform post-war Ukraine into a Big Israel.

Bobko
21 Sep 2022  #2958

I'd prefer that he be a statistic

Mobilizations can rake up a great deal of riff-raff, which may suffer from low morale and be difficult to train/integrate. However, a mobilization also brings into the fray many high quality personnel that the military authorities could not hope to get their hands on in peacetime through salary incentives or benefits. I suspect Velund falls into the latter category.

Mobilizations and drafts are the great blender blades of society - one of the few existing mechanisms through which rich and poor, educated and illiterate are brought together. They can have an amazing long term effect of binding society together. It's what the United States lost after it removed the draft. Now the US has an army of hillbillies, inner city unfortunates, and Latinos fighting for a green card. On the flip side, the US can now be engaged in a war for twenty years at a time and nobody at home seems to care. Still, I would argue much was also lost when it transitioned away from how it was in WW2 or Vietnam where you could have an Ivy League student serve alongside a street sweeper.

As an educated and well motivated person, I'm sure Velund will take good care of his men, not throw them in harm's way unnecessarily, and be a ferocious enemy to the Ukrainians. Again, good luck Velund!

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2959

Mobilizations and drafts ... can have an amazing long term effect of binding society together

Like this.... journalists call the criminal son of putain's press secretary, nikolai peskov pretending to be from a military commisariat and asking if he'll show up since he's summoned.... the answer: "Of course not"

twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1572608312298053632

cms neuf
21 Sep 2022  #2960

But Shoigu specifically said students are exempt and this will be the great get out clause for the kids of the rich and corrupt.

Even those who are not studying will suddenly see a world of opportunity open up in academia

Rich's neighbors in his tower block won't be so lucky - they will be on a filthy train for 20 hours in a moth eaten uniform with some pistol last used in the illegal invasion of Hungary in 1956

mafketis
21 Sep 2022  #2961

Compare the protests in Iran (a brutal nasty dictatorship, which is, of course, a russian ally) over the beating death of a young woman who didn't wear her head rag in the appropriate way to the feeble 'protests' in russia...

The Iranians have massive potential if they can rid themselves of their motheaten religious crazy government

russians are pathetic sheep who accept the tsar's choice of mutton as a main course....

Atch
21 Sep 2022  #2962

a great deal of riff-raff, which may suffer from low morale and be difficult to train/

You mean like the regular Russian army?

I'm sure Velund will take good care of his men, not throw them in harm's way unnecessarily

If he's an officer he will have no power at all because that's how the Russian command system works. Officers have very little freedom to lead and in any case they don't have the respect of their men.

I reckon Putin got a bit jealous of the magnificent spectacle of the Queen's state funeral (now that's what a properly trained, disciplined military looks like) - by the CENTAAH, SLOOOOW, MARCH! The Royal Navy sailors who drew the Queen's gun carriage are quite a contrast to the rabble that rolled into Bucha a few months ago, aren't they?

Paulina
21 Sep 2022  #2963

Seems his specific profession is almost certain to get called up.

Yikes! lol

Mobilizations and drafts are the great blender blades of society - (...) rich and poor, educated and illiterate are brought together.

Yes, great meat blenders lol I wonder if Velund is as enthusiastic about it as you are, living far away in warmth and comfort in New York :))

And as for society blending due to mobilisation/draft, I suspect you're being naive. In Russia many rich and educated will either flee abroad or buy themselves out of this mobilisation. And cms neuf wrote that Shoigu said the students are exempt. So, I'm guessing that it's going be as it has been so far - those disadvantaged from the poorest regions will end up in the meat grinder.

Again, good luck Velund!

He'll need it. Apparently tickets from RuSSia to Instanbul and Yerevan are all sold out already lol

Bobko
21 Sep 2022  #2964

You mean like the regular Russian army?

Shoigu said the 300K will be used to man the front along its enormous length, so that things like happened in Kharkov Oblast two weeks ago can't happen again. The battle-hardened regulars will meanwhile start gathering into armored fists to be deployed along critical narrow sections of the front where they have to effect breakthroughs. This plan actually, finally, makes sense!

Cojestdocholery
21 Sep 2022  #2965

Let's wish him luck!

Sure good luck Velunt it was nice to known you. At least you are put money where your mounth is. Or do you? You won't be hiding in a frige?

PolAmKrakow
21 Sep 2022  #2966

And now the great Putin will suffer his last defeat. When this partial mobilization fails, resulting in another 100K dead Russian comrades, Putin will be hung, or dragged through the streets. As it should be. As it was done to Saddam, he will be killed like a nasty little b*tch of a dog that he is. He will beg for mercy when he showed none, and he will be given none. How poetic it would be for him to be hung in Kiev and left until the meat was torn from bone by birds.

Oh I know that was a little graphic, but wtf, why not. F Russia and all who follow this cun*T Puitn. Everyone of them should be shot.

Bobko
21 Sep 2022  #2967

Sure good luck Velunt

You're a good guy, Cojest)

Bobko
21 Sep 2022  #2968

I hope nobody on this forum, if they are pro-Russian or anti-Russian, would cheer the death of one of our members.

Paulina
21 Sep 2022  #2969

I'm not such a "good guy" as Cojest, so I'll just get my popcorn ready lol

haha

You won't be hiding in a frige?

I'm curious too, haha :D

Bobko
21 Sep 2022  #2970

I'm not such a "good guy" as Cojest

What did Velund ever do to you, that you want his DEATH? This is a person you spoke with Paulina, on multiple occasions.

Is everything ok in your head?


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