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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2912
Declaration of war coming either today or after the referendums on the 27th.
:D
Game did change.
Yes, Russia is losing.
cms neuf
21 Sep 2022 #2913
Russia de facto declared war in February - and then lost.
The referenda are no such thing - they are facebook polls basically.
Pushilin will be dangling from a lamp-post in a few weeks, put there by the Donbassians who hate his guts for the destruction he has brought
PolAmKrakow
21 Sep 2022 #2915
A legal referendum needs all residents voting or having the opportunity to vote. So, none of these referendums can be legal when most of the population has been forced to evacuate. Unless of course they can vote from anywhere in the world electronically and the vote is watched over by the UN.
When will someone step up and have the balls to whack this idiot? Thats the real question. How many useless Fing sheep does one country have?
A full mobilization is the only chance Russia has of winning, and you can bet if that happens, NATO will send everything that Ukraine has been asking for, including planes and longer-range weapons. Escalation like a referendum will do nothing but prolong and make this war more dangerous.
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2916
It's after 8 am CET - I can hear Putin speaking about the "Special Operation" on Govorit Moskva radio. Nothing about the declaration of war or full mobilisation yet, as far as I understand.
The usual nonsense about nazi forces of Ukraine and their NATO instructors so far.
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2918
So no declaration of war or full mobilisation (only partial one). *yaaaaawn*
cms neuf
21 Sep 2022 #2920
Next up Putin will announce the breakfast menu and then open a kids softplay area in the yard of a disused tram repair yard.
Get your WW2 rifle and your poorly fitting boots Velund - it's showtime !
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2921
@Kashub
If you want to conduct fear politics, you need something to back it up with. What does Putin have apart from some rusty nukes that he knows he cannot use anyway?
Unbelievable.
Kashub1410
21 Sep 2022 #2922
@GefreiterKania
"The glory of the red army and brave Russian soldier who beat Napoleon and his men!"
He is just sending them to the meatgrinder basically with the hope that the pressure of amounts of soldiers will tire down the Ukrainians.
"Wave infantry" tactics 101
Russia needs healing, and it's won't come from Ukrainian bullets. Considering more and more to travel to Kaliningrad and do Lords work there. Those people are truly sick and need of healing
Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022 #2923
t.me/intelslava/37546
🇷🇺⚡Vladimir Putin: Mobilization measures will start today. The mobilized will receive the status of contract soldiers and the corresponding salary.
t.me/intelslava/37551
URA URA URAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
youtu.be/A-txdovfzMU
Deus Vult !!! 😁
cms neuf
21 Sep 2022 #2924
"The corresponding salary" LOL - some worthless rubles they can at least use to pad their jackets or wipe their arse
Crnogorac3
21 Sep 2022 #2925
Putin declares partial mobilization!
Brate Velund idemooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
PolAmKrakow
21 Sep 2022 #2926
LMFAO "partial mobilization". Which part? Do you know when you will be mobilized, or is it like a lottery, or like the old US draft system? Russia this Russia that. Bull$hit. Russia is a pimple on the a$$ of the world that is uncomfortable and needs to be popped. Russia can send another 100K men and they will still not win. They need to send at least a half million men or it does nothing. A half million men would definitely be noticed by all citizens and it would create a panic. This is another blow hard moment for a washed up Napoleon complex leader. Someone please just whack this guy and become a Russian hero.
Bratwurst Boy
21 Sep 2022 #2927
Google said it right....Russians fearing exactly that and looking for a way out...out of Russia!
mafketis
21 Sep 2022 #2928
Brate Velund idemooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
They're taking foreign volunteers, why is your @ss still in Montenegro?
If you _really_ believed in the russian cause you'd be there now (along with velund and bobko) as it is, you're just cowards and hypocrites, armchair military blowhards...
cms neuf
21 Sep 2022 #2929
I think Crno has seen the equipment they gave the first team and knows what kind of North Korean junk the reserves are going to receive
Sure won't be much use against howitzers and HIMARs
And there is nothing left worth stealing either.
Kashub1410
21 Sep 2022 #2930
@mafketis
If they were men of the word (Słowianin - Od słowa) they would been it long time ago.
They just write on the internet for their own amusement seeking attention and trying to rile up people cause they have no clue about social interactions/social etiquette or thinks it's "wrong".
Probably caused by disfunctional parenting in their youth or currently. They are a disgrace to their family if they belong to a family
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2931
Google said it right
Yip - apparently the most searched phrase from Russian users in the last 2 days is "how to leave the country". My answer to that would be: quickly.
jon357
21 Sep 2022 #2932
armchair military blowhards...
With a morbid fascination with atrocities.
It goes with the whole russophiliac package.
Velund
21 Sep 2022 #2933
Brate Velund idemooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
So far I haven't received any draft summons or calls from the local military commissariat. But I prepared a bag with all the things I would need in case of draft.
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2934
In case you're drafted and your T-62 rolls towards Ukraine, make sure:
- not to shoot any civilians;
- not to aim your gun at any kindergartens or hospitals;
- not to try to be a hero (99.9% of them are forgotten, and invaders are rarely considered heroes anyway).
When you come back home safe and sound (hopefully), you will be able to tell as many heroic stories to your grandchildren as you wish. ;) As far as I know PF has never lost a member in a war, and may it stay this way.
Kashub1410
21 Sep 2022 #2935
@GefreiterKania
And take with you as many prepared tin cans with fresh long lasting food. Your Co-soldiers will thank you after they receive army rations
cms neuf
21 Sep 2022 #2936
Velund fingers crossed you come home safe and with your eyes open about the barbarity of your commanders and the justness of the Ukrainian wish to be independent and democratic
And while you are there look around and see how many of Putin's circles kids are fighting next to you
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2937
Shoigu says they plan to draft 300k soldiers. Not nearly enough to conquer Ukraine, so they're probably just trying to stabilise the front...
wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-rosja-powoluje-300-tysiecy-zolnierzy-szojgu-tlumaczy-czescio,nId,6299259
GefreiterKania
21 Sep 2022 #2939
300 000 soldiers
Nothing to masturbate to. That's enough to stabilise some front lines, but to conquer Ukraine? Forget it.
PolAmKrakow
21 Sep 2022 #2940
300K more men to the front lines only extends the duration of the war. Nowhere near enough to win or to occupy Ukraine. This is another disastrous design that will only get a lot more Russians killed. If, the 300K do show up, and that is a big if in my opinion, but if they do, they can still not hold the existing lines. They can not get to Ukraine quick enough to stop the current counter offensive. The only plan they should have had was to send 300K to Crimea and that would have worked in my opinion.
Bobko, while I appreciate your patriotism, no matter how I think it is misguided, I do not hope for you to become one of the roasted Orc's. Russia needs intelligent people to lead it out of the dark ages, and I think you are intelligent enough to be a positive influence. You, as a military person, must be able to see that this war has been foolish from the beginning. Pack warm cloths and extra body armor if you can get it.
Now, the west will respond. More missiles, and I would bet on longer range missiles at this point. I would also bet that more air defense systems will be shipping out quickly. Would love to see the US send Poland the decommissioned Warthogs and then Poland send any left over migs. So much for political negotiations, its about to get worse for everyone.