Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

I see, there is not a single word about it in the totally uninterested pederoliberal west 😄

Preliminary turnout following the results of four days of the referendum in the liberated territories:

LPR - 83.61%
DPR - 86.89%
Zaporozhye region - 66.43%
Kherson region - 63.58%

The referendum will be considered valid if more than 50% of voters voted. The final day of voting will take place today, September 27th.

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Ukrainian woman burns passport, votes to join Russia

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Is russia trying to recreate is tank meldown around Kyiv now with human beings?

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"They left us in the woods and don't give a fvkk about us. There are none ** , bl ** b. No binoculars, no thermal cameras, no water, no food."

russia is what happens when no one in the society understands the concept of 'human dignity'....


Send her to the front!


By no one.... not even Serbia! Word is not even Belarus is likely to recognize them....

So... try again russian coxxvkker

@Novichok
How is Russia defending itself again? By losing the war it started in Ukraine? Right. Great defense. If Russia is dumb enough to use a tactical nuke, and I think they are, look for the Black Sea fleet to become repurposed or for long range missiles to get to Ukraine within days. Long enough range to hit Moscow.

Wasn't necessary to bomb Japan? When the whole Pacific Fleet was attacked? WTF are you smoking? I know it must be hard sitting at home with all the pent up rage against the USA who gave you a home and protected you and your rights. And you are too old to volunteer to fight in Russia. What about your neighbor when he is attacked? You conveniently avoid everything that does not fit your narrative. More Orc's getting liquidated as we speak. Grab your marshmallows.

Apparently the mogilized in Saratov are having to walk to the military registration... because their bus broke down....

Is there any limit to russian incompetence and fecklessness? How are these people allowed to have a whole country?

Makes no sense....

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Smoking is hazardous to one's health 😁

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They always bang on about those two countries. Nevertheless both are currently independent.


Yes, except they aren't doing it with 20 year old conscripts who've had basic training. Now they're doing it with ill-equipped, untrained, unwilling and terrified pasty-faced middle-aged office workers.

The ones that don't surrender will all burn to death.

Good news about Nordstream One. It will never again supply r*SSian gas to Europe. Hopefully the overland pipelines will be permanently breached next.

lol! they don't have enough weapons to give to their own soldiers, where from will they get guns for those grups? They assests outside the counrtys are frozen, they give rotten guns to their own troops. You daydreaming you stupid troll.

And totally destroyed with hundreds of thousands dead and even more displaced

Iraq will remain a mark of shame on the USA's history, but to be entirely fair, most of the deaths were caused by the insurgents and later the Civil War between Shia and Sunni which were not desired by the USA.

Meanwhile Russia invades Ukraine with the very clear goal of causing high casualties and the planned murder of anyone who resist Russification.

And many/most Americans have no problem admitting it was a gargantuan mistake... it's not like most Americans go around clucking about how great they are because of the invasion...

Try to get russians to admit mistakes/guilt... go on, I dare you?

Have you looked at the buses Russia is using for this mobilization? The weapons? The equipment? The whole Fing country is no better than Ukraine and it actually may be behind Ukraine. Granted I have seen some old cars and old technology but from Russia this is laughable. There are better infrastructures in the deserts in the Middle East where there are nomads. The country is a Fing joke. Where is all the money going venerable Putin? Someone please just shoot this POS please.

generalsvr left a not too subtle hint today.... about a plan to bury.....

Of course. Good that you mentioned that. Prior to magnificent anti-nazi Special operation in Ukraine Russia was a resource colony.

But as we all can see Russia decided to liberate itself from status of western European and USA colony. In order life to be good for some, to some others standard of living needs to deteriorate. And we all see what happening in front of our very eyes. Western Europe turning into Masai Mara of Europe. Now Russia can start re-industrialization and to improve life for its citizens. Just when war is over.

I spent four years in one of them. Didn't look destroyed to me.


People forget that Iraq had invaded Kuwait and were gassing Kurds with chemical weapons. And those who kvetch about the war are happy to heat their houses with the petrochemicals that have been produced there since and which had dried up under the dictator Saddam.


To be fair, Poles are the same.

Sure, and the Iraqi government today is in that regard is much preferable to him. That doesn't change the fact that this was an illegal war of agression based on lies and that Bush, Blair and Co. should have been tried as the war criminals they undoubtedly are.

Russia would have been legally justified to assist Saddam Hussein back then in amy shape or form. If that had been a moral choice is another matter, given his crimes. There none justification whatsoever for invading an uninvolved country decades later.

Boo hoo boo. Courts decide what's legal or not. You don't. And no international court had ruled on the issue. It was the right thing to do, and wasn't a "war of agression" or "illegal".


No they wouldn't. They had no connection to Iraq or Kuwait and no major investments there as the principal combatants (though not Poland( did and do.

And this thread is about r*SSis's illegal invasion of Ukraine, and the help that can be offered.

Isn't it great news about the two Nordstream pipelines?

@Crow
Serbia is about to become the EU's biatch. You might want to pay more attention to your own country. Meanwhile Moldova is now saying is can not remain neutral and will begin arming itself.

Russia, should simply be ended. Nothing good comes from it and nothing will. Time for NATO to give Ukraine what it wants and they can reach out to Moscow directly. Imagine the Kremlin and Red Square in flames. The Winter Palace up in smoke. Time to stamp out Russian culture like they have tried to stamp out Ukraine.

Those Germans, Ready to jump with Russia in the same camp just to build on the base of the EU power to outwight USA and China.

They think they can tame Russia and Russia thinks they can dominiate Germany when the time came.
The same old crap that got two wars about and all that nasty stuff inbetween. All becasue of the partition of Poland. While there was a strong county in this part of the world there were not egotic maniaks run amok and make the world worse place for everyone.

What more they think they were great.

But experts do, and the consensus among them on this matter is very clear. This is not a grey area, there was zero legal justification for it.

Iraq had not invaded the USA nor was it threatening to do so, nor did the USA aid another country that was invaded or faced the threat of such an invasion. The USA was not authorized through the UN security. The lack of any of such justification makes it an illegal war.


It was both.


Yes they would. Any country that faces an illegal invasion has the right to appeal for foreign intervention as self-defense. It doesn't matter how related those countries are, and Moscow showed its' readiness to defend despots in Syria.


Hardly. It is terrible for the environment and it means unnecessary costs once we can resume trade with Russia in the case that they oust Putin and leave Ukraine.

It's all about the Holy Roman Empire. They never wanted it to fall and felt safety in numbers when it existed with all its laws and endless talk. So they want to recreate it as the EU. Mark my words, they will be chasing reconstruction contracts and trying to buy up Ukrainian companies cheaply if they are given half a chance.

Plus, they crave authority and rules) regulations and can't quite figure out countries like Poland and the UK who don't have that craving. They think it's a kind of chaos and have never figured out that it isn't.

Meanwhile, the Poland-Norway pipeline is open and those countries that actually take a leading role in standing up to r*SSia have made it clear that nuclear blackmail does not scare us.

And Ukraine is still asking for those tanks that would be ideal for their needs.


Are your 'experts' judging in an international court? 'Experts' do not determine what is or is not illegal. Courts do.


Haven't you realised? The West will not 'resume' trade with r*SSia in the foreseeable future. Certainly not for petrochem, including (especially) gas.

The invasion of Ukraine is certainly putting delusions in Moscow and Belgrade to rest.

Maiden was the moment when started outside attack on Ukraine. By EU and NATO. Special operation is just respond to the shift of balance. That is what goes down in history.

Face it man. Russia is right.

Reconstruction. Ukraine will be the building site of Europe. Assuming it isn't nuked to oblivion. Importantt that they own the industry there and do not become anybody's back yard.


It's the same mentality. Hopefully something better than the EU will develop to replace it.

And obviously, EU or no EU, there will be no gas piped in from r*SSia to Europe ever again. That bridge is burned and Poland was proved right.

Are you quoting Pravda? Sure looks like it, as far as I recall no international court has ruled on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

@Barney
Not yet, but soon.

Your recall needs s bit of work:

"The UN's international court of justice (ICJ) in The Hague has ordered Russia to halt its invasion of Ukraine, saying the court had not seen any evidence to support the Kremlin's justification for the war"

theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/16/un-international-court-of-justice-orders-russia-to-halt-invasion-of-ukraine

At least one video has surfaced of a guy having a friend try to break his leg (I didn't want to watch to see if he was successful)....

And russian men especially continue to flee the country.

Usually people flee their country when they've been invaded, not when they've invaded someone else... the only similar case I can think of was.... nazi germany? (though I don't think the numbers were so big so fast...)

@Novichok
You have now proven yourself to be without intelligence. Once I had hope for you, but clearly you have zero intelligence. You know who objected to Hawaii joining the US? No one you Fing moron. No one objected. You know who objected to the sale of Alaska and Alaska being made a State? No one. Your version of history is written in Crayola and chalk.

To all the Russian idiots and their supporters, invading another country that did not pose a threat to you is not defending yourself. Russia will be destroyed. Finally. All you stupid F's in Russia supporting this will get what you deserve, and all the pu$$ies outside of Russia should simply be shot.

What the US did in Iraq or any other place is irrelevant. WTF? Can people be this stupid?

stupidest thing ever written on this forum (and not for lack of very, very strong competition

I am more optimistic. If Putin ends up replaced with a second Gorbachev, it will be in Europe's interest to stabilize the government economically and buying cheap gas will be a win-win, as long as that does not lead to another dependence.


Keep in mind that the ICJ is using legal arguments and frameworks that were specifically developed to counter legal problems that came to light in the matter of the Iraq war. As explained before, there can be no doubt that the Iraq war was illegal by international law.