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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



jon357
27 Sep 2022  #3361

Keep in mind that the ICJ is using legal arguments and frameworks

That's one of the sillier comments on this page.

They applied the law to this war. However much you wish they had applied it to another, they didn't. And as you were told, there was not legal judgement against that just and correct war

Reality, y'know.

a second Gorbachev, it will be

Followed by a second Putler and a third Gorbachev and a third Putler and a fourth Gorbachev and a fourth Putler ad infinitum.

r*SSia have done what they're doing now pretty regularly for a long time. They've invaded Ukraine four times in 103 years. Poles would and do point out their actions over several centuries. It is a pretty consistent course of action.

The difference now is that their weapons could wreck Europe.

Don't hold out hope that they will come in from the cold or that the West will allow them to this time.

Now, time to send Ukraine those tanks they've requested.

Crow
27 Sep 2022  #3362

Russia has right to sell its resources on its own conditions.

mafketis
27 Sep 2022  #3363

and countries have a right to not help it commit genocide by refusing to buy....

Crow
27 Sep 2022  #3364

Countries should think of it before they allowed genocide on Russians in Ukraine by nazi banderists and genocide on Serbs by nazi-Vatican`s ustashe.

Go, impose sanctions on Vatican.

Hypocrite.

Now when Russia responded you label THAT as genocide. Please. Cover yourself with your ears.

gumishu
27 Sep 2022  #3365

The US DID nuke Japs!

and it probably saved millions of lives

How are these people allowed to have a whole country?

they aren't - most of the wealth in the country is in the hands of the cleptocratic elite (who are alive only as long as they support an individual named Putin)

Tacitus
27 Sep 2022  #3366

That's one of the sillier comments on this page

Just read the Wikipedia about the ICR probe on Ukraine.

just and correct war

Just keep telling yourself that. But you probably know deep down, that there is no legal defense for this, or else you would have mentioned them.

It is a pretty consistent course of action.

Historical patterns can be broken. If there is a change in Russia, Europe would be foolish not to encourage it.

those tanks they've requested.

Sure, time to send those Abrams and Challengers.

Please cut down on your quotes

jon357
27 Sep 2022  #3367

ICR

ICR probe? Or the international Court ruling?

no legal defense

Why would there be a 'legal defence' since there are no legal charges?

Historical patterns can be broken

This one hasn't.

Abrams? American. Challengers? Shipped to Poland.

Of course the tanks they're asking for and were refused...

Bratwurst Boy
27 Sep 2022  #3368

it will be in Europe's interest to stabilize the government economically and buying cheap gas will be a win-win,

But it seems not through the Nordstream pipes....

CIA warns German government against attack on Baltic Sea pipelines

spiegel.de/politik/beschaedigte-gasleitungen-cia-warnte-bundesregierung-vor-anschlag-auf-ostsee-pipelines-a-3ab0a183-8af6-4fb2-bae4-d134de0b3d57

There are increasing signs of a planned attack on the two Nord Stream gas pipelines. According to SPIEGEL information, there were already indications of this from the USA in advance. ...

That's how they look now:

Aerial photos from the sea over the damaged pipelines

The Baltic Sea is bubbling

A Danish Navy helicopter video shows the turbulent water surface over the Nord Stream gas pipelines. There is a pressure drop in three of the four tubes - possibly due to sabotage. ....


spiegel.de/ausland/nord-stream-1-und-2-video-zeigt-blubbernde-ostsee-ueber-pipeline-a-6e17fe9d-0b3b-4243-b5f1-70cc594bc904

Danish earthquake station registered suspicious signals

One event on Monday morning, another in the evening - a measuring device on Bornholm apparently recorded the moment when the Nord Stream pipelines were damaged...


spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/nord-stream-pipelines-daenische-erdbebenstation-registriert-verdaechtige-signale-a-2bac91cd-5285-417f-a011-e147ef5cda78

Crow
27 Sep 2022  #3369

So ends the era of western European and USA domination on Earth.

mafketis
27 Sep 2022  #3370

so now it's Russia's turn.

yeah, how's that working out for them? they've turned everything they've touched in Ukraine to sh|t from "tanks stuck in mud" "good will gesture on snake island" "losing ground with the kharkiv push (not ever yet)" to russians fleeing the conflict in the hundreds of thousands.... wall to wall failure without a single strategic gain (unless you count phony 'referendums' that not even Serbia will recognize....' oh... wait! They grew NATO, strengthened Ukrainian nationalism and made sure that Ukraine has left the russian orbit for good....

don't forget the long term effects of a brain drain and sanctions and structural damage to the economy that won't heal for decades....

russia's turn to scr3w the pooch... yeah, they're doing that alright....

Miloslaw
27 Sep 2022  #3371

the right to invade is not a right at all .The US did it half a dozen times since 1945

The USA have done it even more than you say.
In the total time of the existence of the USA, they have been at peace for about 20 years!
So, you do have a point Rich.

mafketis
27 Sep 2022  #3372

Counting ballots in the phony "referendums".... not that they are blank.....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1574846654343221275/photo/1

russia... just crap through and through....

Novichok
27 Sep 2022  #3373

So, you do have a point Rich.

Thanks. The most irritating thing is that some idiots here claim the US benefits from these wars. No, the US does not. Only the corrupt top 0.1% does. The rest of us just foot the bill.

Back to Ukraine...Where Biden finds the money to protect Ukraine from Russians but not his own country from the hordes that kill and rape in even higher numbers is a mystery.

Counting ballots in the phony "referendums".... not that they are blank...

At least the ballots are handed over by the living. In the US, we like democracy so much that even the dead can vote.

Miloslaw
27 Sep 2022  #3374

No, the US does not. Only the corrupt top 0.1% does

True again, the American arms industry is the chief beneficiary.

Tacitus
27 Sep 2022  #3375

Shipped to Poland.

Yeah, impressive. Everywhere but Ukraine.

since there are no legal charges?

Stalin was never formally charged for his invasion of Poland, do you think that was legal as well?There are no charges because neither the USA nor Iraq acknwledge the ICR and Blair has so far managed to defend himself at home with technicalities. But who knows, maybe a future Labour government will extradite him to Den Haag in an effort to deal with its' past misdeeds. It took Germany decades to fully deal with its' criminals, we ought to give the UK the same opportunity.

But it seems not through the Nordstream pipes

A very strange event. If Russia did it, you'd expect them to do it as a false flag operation blaming e.g. Poland or Ukraine (who would have a motive, but it would hardly be worth the risk). As it stands right now, they'd given Scholz a gift since he now can no longer be pressuresd into opening NSII by disgruntled Germana during a harsh winter.

the American arms industry is the chief beneficiary.

In fairness to them, they at least deliver what they promise. Not like the supposedly HIMAR-prove S400 systems... .

This is the second time today I've had to tell you to cut down on your quotes

Miloslaw
27 Sep 2022  #3376

. Not like the supposedly HIMAR-prove S400

What do you mean?

Tacitus
27 Sep 2022  #3377

The advertised Russian S-400 systems proved powerless against HIMARS

google.com/amp/s/sundries.com.ua/en/the-advertised-russian-s-400-systems-proved-powerless-against-himars/amp/

Who knows how much money that should have gone into development went into the pockets of the owner instead. Coincidentally I've read today that the Ukrainians are using older NATO anti-air equipment like the Gepard to devastating effects. Which speaks volumes about their abilities and those of the Russians.

johnny reb
28 Sep 2022  #3378

I think the chances of Putin de-escalating are close to zero.
Putin simply cannot give up so much ground and be seen to be losing and continue as leader of Russia.
The chances of him using nuclear weapons, at least tactical nuclear weapons, is going up by the day.
Now I want to know which side sabotaged Nord stream with the bombs.
Anybody know ?

Joker
28 Sep 2022  #3379

Do you think Putin was the saboteur of Nordstream 2? Now, this is something Ill agree with the climate alarmist. This is a catastrophic amount of methane that is spewing into the atmosphere. We're inching close to nuclear war and Biden could try and broker some agreement but hes a swamp creature loyal to industrial military complex.

Crnogorac3
28 Sep 2022  #3380

youtu.be/u6IIwltTM4Q

2022 09 27 The Americans Declared War On Europe

Joker
28 Sep 2022  #3381

Now I want to know which side sabotaged Nord stream with the bombs.

It was clearly Putan.


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Crnogorac3
28 Sep 2022  #3382

twitter.com/Aaron_Good_/status/1574808821872066560

Was there really any doubt about WHO did it?

Joker
28 Sep 2022  #3383

Not long ago we were oil independent and produced enough to aid Europe with extra supply. But we had a different guy in charge back then.

Novichok
28 Sep 2022  #3384

From dailymail.com:

Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO General Secretary, condemned the 'sham referenda' on Twitter, lambasting them as having 'no legitimacy' and being a 'blatant violation of international law.'

No, a-hole. It was as legitimate as the US Charter, Article 1 which says:

2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;

The "peoples" have self-determined as the UN Charter allows that they want to join Russia. From now on, anyone shooting without authorization is a terrorist and outside of the Geneva Convention. Any state actor that attacks the new Russian territories will be attacking Russia itself. Ouch...

PolAmKrakow
28 Sep 2022  #3385

US Charter, Article 1

LMFAO yes, that article does not take into account that the territory is occupied by a foreign force, and that the majority of residents in the territory are actually not in the territory due to the occupation force.

How TF do mods continue to let this kind of posting continue?

All the Putinazi's should stop typing and join the Russia army. Stop being an irritant and just pick up a gun. Really, that is the only way you can help your country. Irritating people on PF does nothing for Russia. Posting BS theory and analogies does nothing. Put a big Z on your car and drive around town, but a ticket to Moscow and make a real difference. New instructions at the recruiting centers are suggesting that new recruits bring their own body bags and use as a sleeping bag so it can have a double use.

cms neuf
28 Sep 2022  #3386

What referendum are you talking about ? None has taken place

Crnogorac3
28 Sep 2022  #3387

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πŸ‡·πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Today, Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions turned their backs on Kiev, and the process will go further if the Kiev authorities do not realize the mistakes and strategic miscalculations (c) Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN Security Council Nebenzya

A transparent hint that the war in Ukraine is not limited to referendums in the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.


t.me/intelslava/38051

cms neuf
28 Sep 2022  #3388

They are still looking for volunteers Crno - grab a pack of tampons and your Grandad's old shotgun and join the struggle.

Crnogorac3
28 Sep 2022  #3389

AMERICAN RUSSELL "TEXAS" BENTLEY VOTES TO CHANGE HISTORY

"I just got back from voting YES! on the question of whether to allow Russia to join the Donetsk People's Republic. Congratulations, Comrades!βœŠπŸ»πŸ€ πŸ‘"

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/SSm0Pxr2W07a/

PolAmKrakow
28 Sep 2022  #3390

@cms neuf
He does not have the balls to go volunteer. Like all the other Putinazi's he wants to enjoy the comforts of the west while supporting criminals. All the Putinazi keyboard gangsters keep posting the same old propaganda. Our only hope is that once Putin is dead, or Russia is completely lambasted in Ukraine that these idiots will crawl back under their rocks.


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