Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

They've done this already. As well as preventing Ukrainian citizens from leaving r*SSia into the EU.

The governor of Luhansk has also just said that the orcs are stopping people leaving his region.


Being 'lost for words' doesn't stop you pointlessly commenting though, does it,...

The American Embassy has told all the Americans in Russia to get out now because those with dual citizenships could be forced into the Russian military.

Interesting the Hungarians are doubling down on their opposition to sanctions. Not sure what their schtick really is but it is weird for them to align themselves with the losing side.

youtu.be/jsqphbRGBIw

The referendums are a major geopolitical defeat for the West which they cannot hide, this is why they resorted to carrying out terrorist attacks on the Nordstream pipelines. - Andrei Martiyanov

not really, that's a Hungarian national pasttime and a good bellwether for deciding which is the 'right' side is to look at the side Hungary has taken and then assuming the right side is the other.....

Orban is clearly a russian asset and I'm halfway expecting him to try to recognize the phony "referenda"....


No, they're a russian defeat because they show the world what a phony, inferior and devoid of honor country russia is.... get putain's... anatomy out of your mouth and wake up!

@mafketis
I wonder what the narrative will be when Ukraine defeats all the Orc's in these areas? Russia loses an invasion to Ukraine? Or Russia decides to give the worthless land back to Ukraine? Or, "we didnt really want it anyway?"

In my opinion those referenda do not matter. It all will be decinded on the battlefield.
However Russian might think diffrent and moblisation was aimed in a large part to intimidate western countries.

In the south, near Kherson, the Russians officially took from the Ukrainians everything they had won in their offensive. So many dead people for 2 weeks of Tweeting and for literally nothing. Lots of volunteers for that crappy $2,700 one-time salary from Zelensky.

putain's minions in the west are already starting to hype up how dangerous and super serious he is and how what he says should be taken seriously..., see Angela Merkel here....

twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1575406507713302530

I expect statements from Scholz and Orban soon as well....

he's hoping (somehow) that "annexing" the areas will mean other countries take his nuke talk seriously or that it will bring about a wave of enthusiasm and nationalist feeling like Crimea did in 2014....

the mobilization is, by now, a rolling disaster and like the rest of the war is turning russia into a laughing stock....

compare: US intervention in Vietnam (a stupid misadventure doomed to failure) upper estimates on the number of men who left the country to avoid the draft (over years) was 125,000....

Over two times as many russians have left in one week!

As he was told it would be, it's an effin' disaster - he's in the late hitler stage now and the only question is how long before he completely cracks....

There were no referendums

In fact I think anyone who says there was should be banned from this forum unless they use the word "sham"

Looking at the new sanctions list I am amazed at the long list of stuff that so far wasn't subject to sanctions and everywhere I see the lobbying of big businesses in Italy, France and Germany.

Still from now on life will get even worse for Russians

Also need to start a proper blockade of Krolowiec / Konigsberg - they hopefully grew enough food to get them through winter and I think they can find some firewood. But nothing should get in or out via Poland or Lithuania - we can't allow mobilized Russians from that region to cross our territory

Russia is their only source of gas (and possibly oil) - that's as simple as that

@Crnogorac3
You are delusional. Ukraine continues to advance in Kherson as reported everywhere. Stop smoking what ever it is they gave you.

Meanwhile in the real war, the Orcs in Lyman may be completely surrounded by the end of the day. Not just on three sides allowing for retreat as it is now, but completely surrounded. Like shooting fish in a barrel at that point. 20 thousand Orcs headed to the processing plant.

Germany has gas reserves for 10 years they just think they're too good to harvest it (and the environmental crazies go insane at the very idea...)

I was talking about Hungary

They should use this in the current situation


The greens are very 'me me me' if it doesn't come from there, it'll still have to come from somewhere. Before, it was genocidal r*SSia, now r*SSia is out they'll have to get it somewhere with far worse green standards and even worse human rights records.

France and germany don't seem to care that much about the actual people in the places they get gas from. They were happy to trade as much as humanly possible with r*SSia, after all.

gas fields have to be developed before extraction can be possible - maybe the gas fields they have are only prospected and not developed (I mean: no rigs)

Yes. I'm actually on one now. They could start extracting within maybe a couple of years if they really crack on with it. They've extracted has before from those fields so it's certainly possible.

The equipment is easy to bring in however yes, if they've not done recent reservoir modelling it will take longer and of course there are only a few crane vessels and those are busy contacted by countries with more foresight than Germany.

If there's gas there to frack onshore it will be quicker.

Cut the deflections. The subject is the referendum in the mostly-Russian part of Ukraine as the UN Charter, Article 1 allows. Look up "self-determination" if you are not sure what it means.

S, either the referendum took place or it didn't. It did. Therefore, it was not a sham since it was real and the voters had choices. Nobody was shot for voting NO.

Do you have any evidence that the voters said YES against their will? No, you don't.

Case closed.

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/nord-stream-lecks-ermittler-gehen-von-bomben-mit-grosser-sprengkraft-aus-a-089aef88-b323-45f1-9ec8-74491bf8b5fc

According to SPIEGEL information, the German security authorities assume that the tubes of the Nord Stream pipelines were damaged by massive explosive devices. This allows conclusions to be drawn about the possible group of perpetrators.

The German security authorities were convinced that highly effective explosive devices were needed to interrupt the Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea. According to SPIEGEL information, it was calculated that explosive devices with an effect comparable to that of 500 kilograms of TNT must have been used to destroy the tubes. by various measuring stations were also included in the estimate The seismic signals registered.

The previously unknown estimates support the assumption that only a state actor can be behind the action. So far, the federal government has held back with speculation about the background to the interruption of the pipelines.

There is a lot of speculation that Russia is behind the action . The Russian leadership, however, described the process as international terrorism directed against Russia.

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According to CNN European security officials on Monday and Tuesday observed Russian Navy support ships in the vicinity of leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines:

cnn.com/2022/09/28/politics/nord-stream-pipeline-leak-russian-navy-ships/index.html

And the Russians are right since there is no upside for them from this act. They can always turn gas off and on as a negotiating tool. Now that tool does not exist.

Russia Derangement Syndrome is so tiring to watch...

....that is truly puzzling! What would they get out of this?

@Novichok
Cut the deflections yourself. What about all the voters who evacuated who still own homes there and have a right to vote who could not because of the Russian invasion? That is critical to any referendum being legal. Such is the whole UN Charter. Your BS is boring now.

Meanwhile the Orcs only have one road left out of Lyman. Thats it. One road left for their retreat or the Orc slaughter will begin. 20 thousand Orcs turned into fertilizer and dog food. Everything according to plan.

The implication being what? That Russia did it or that Russia is investigating?
That was a dumb question, Novi. Of course, Russia did it under the general assumption that Russia is always guilty of something. Just fill in the blanks...Even that plane in Smolensk going down in fog...


Who did the counting? You?

Not a thing....


What's your evidence that the voting was free and fair (not to mention the tens of thousands of people who were not their to vote because.... russian invasion)

Get your head out of putain's zhopa for a minute and stop playing dumb rhetorical games....

Can't you read?:

"It's unclear whether the ships had anything to do with those explosions, these sources and others said - but it's one of the many factors that investigators will be looking into."

The explosions happened on Monday and Russian Navy support ships were seen in the vicinity on Monday. Whether they were observed before explosions, during or after - the article doesn't say.

All people and events are presumed to be OK unless proven otherwise. Then the burden of proof is on the accuser. Duh!

My feeling too.

I don't like conspiracy theories however since they're burning off most of the gas anyways, they could have done this to shows that they can damage other underwater facilities. Their subs Abid around Britain a lot and transatlantic cables are especially vulnerable.

@Novichok
Russia did the counting. Thanks. And once Lyman is gone, Severodonetsk will fall, and Donetsk itself will follow. This is all happening within my predicted timeline of mid October. When Donetsk falls, Luhansk will be crushed. Your beloved Orcs will be dog food through the winter, and by spring the Orc army will be starving if not frozen to death. The Orc will suffer the same fate that the Nazi's did when invading Russia. Poetic justice for the new Orc Nazi's.

Yes, I can and found this in the article you linked:

But the sightings still cast further suspicion on Russia, which has drawn the most attention from both European and US officials as the only actor in the region believed to have both the capability and motivation to deliberately damage the pipelines.

According to the RDS sickos, the method is to mention Russia as many times as possible and throw in a disclaimer most readers will not notice.

Like this: Paulina was seen next to a burning house. It is not clear if she was involved in setting it ablaze.