Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

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Poland will not recognize the Kremlin's "results" of pseudo-referenda in the occupied territories of Ukraine.

Good. RuSSists have to realise nobody will recognise their fake referenda apart from North Korea.
It is amaSSing how low RuSSia has fallen to rely on rogue countries. Even pro-Russian Serbia won`t recognise the referenda.

They shouldn't even call them that.

Really?
Are you a comedian in your spare time?


He is.

From a tribe's survival point of view, an armed invasion is a lot better than by "migrants". You can shoot, kill, and eventually remove armed invaders. Poland did it and Ukraine is doing its best now. Migrants, like herpes, are forever.

She wasn't. She was never Europe's leader and in fact we know know that among leaders of European countries she was perhaps the most feckless and irresponsible.

And now she's off all guest lists for the foreseeable having sourced most of her industrial base's energy needs from a source that can never be used again.


Says a migrant.

From dailymail.com:

Putin WINS his sham referendums! Kremlin reports residents of occupied Ukrainian territories vote overwhelmingly to join Russia after being marched to the ballot box at gunpoint

Dear Daily Mail editor, that referendum actually took place so it was not a "sham" or fake. Learn English or quit.

People actually voted and the ballots were actually counted. But I understand that you were under terrific pressure to say something negative so you came up with that "sham" thing.

The same with that "at gunpoint". FYI, guns are often used to protect as opposed to terrorize. What evidence is there that those guns were used to threaten any voters to vote one way or the other instead of protecting said voters from Z thugs?

To keep things in perspective, I do recall Black Panther thugs with baseball bats menacing American voters right in from of polling places. That was a time for good white people to show up with their ARs because the cops did nothing thus aiding and abetting the black terrorists.

Those guys with guns protecting the referendum voters performed a noble role the American cops were too afraid to do.

I wonder how long it would take a dozen of these to go from Poland bases to say Moscow.
A new missile set to enter service in 2027 is radically different: the new Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM) will fly up to 20 times faster, giving adversaries little time to escape its wrath.

HACM will be the first mass-produced weapon to use air-breathing scramjet engines.

msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-worlds-first-hypersonic-cruise-missile-will-fly-20-times-faster-than-the-competition/ar-AA12m0JR

The Biden administration announced $1.1 billion in additional security assistance for Ukraine on Wednesday, bringing the U.S. commitment to more than $16.2 billion since Russia's invasion in late February.

That amount could have given all the Americans free healthcare.

I didn`t know healthcare is so cheap in America. Even cheaper than in Poland. Amasing.

@johnny reb
What is important in this package is that the Ukraine HIMAR stock just got doubled. They are kicking the $hit out of Russia with 18, imagine what they will do with double that number. 16 Billion is not a lot of money in the big scheme of things. When people in this world, not countries, but people, can write a check for that amount and not make a dent in their fortunes it is nothing for the USA. There are nearly 330 million people in the US so that 16 billion is about $50 per person. Money well spent.

Lyman is going to fall, and it will likely happen over the next week. The only question is how many Orcs get killed, surrender or retreat? Lets hope they just get slaughtered so the message back home from all their mommies to Putin might be heard.

They will be coming off straight of the production line, so a 6-24 month delivery schedule, this is more about future-proofing ukraine, making it a de-facto NATO state.

In terms of fecklessness and irresponsibility, there are are lot who' d come to mind before her and quite a few of them were British. That ahe preserved the EU during a decade of crisis makes her the greatest European leader of her time. Admittedly what helps her is that all of her British or French were failures or worse, with the exception of Macron who can hardly be said to have had a better reading of Putin.


If there had been internet back then, no do doubt you would have also defended the "elections" taking place in Communist Poland or the GDR. Your obtuseness is tiresome. This might come as a shock to you, but people sometimes lie about their democratic legitimacy. This may surprise you, but the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, is in fact, usually not considered a Democracy (and in fact could also be described as a de facto monarchy or even a necrocracy).

On a more positive note, the Ukrainians have liberated more villagea around Lyman.

Almost 66,000 Russians have entered Europe since President Vladimir Putin's military call-up for the war in Ukraine.
How did 2.3k get into poland? I thought we banned tourist visas so must be family or work or study visas??

twitter.com/AFP/status/1575308989839310849

Entered Europe? You mean EU?

Anyway, imagine horror of those Russians when first nuke from Russia fall on EU.

Even if it does at what cost?

After a huge political defeat for the West with regards to the held referendums, they're in desperate need for any sort of success to be able to sell to their domestic public.

Zelensky and his handlers don't really care how many Ukrainian soldiers will die and the corpses keep piling up. The Russian artillery and air force keep picking them off when they're out in the open.

Part of the identified KIA soldiers from the city of Krivi Rog (where Zelensky is from) for the last few days.

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So the attack on Liman has come at a huge cost for the ukro forces.

But she mastered the art of convincing Germans that the country would fall apart without her (like Erdogan, putain and Orban).

But so many of her policies have been unmitigated disasters for Germany and the rest of Europe....

deciding to end nuclear power in an emotional moment after Fukushima?

deciding to import a large class of welfare dependents?

putting all of Germany's energy eggs in one basket?

never really standing up to putain?

Terrible leader, promoted beyond her competence level....

In this case 'sham' means lacking in authenticity or validity... not a free (or secret) ballot conducted by a country that routinely falsifies elections (even many putain supporters admit his 'elections' were full of ballot rigging - they just don't care).

And you believe that residents of Mariupol would overwhelmingly vote for the country that destroyed the city and killed tens of thousands of its inhabitants... (and which leaves mass graves full of civilians behind it wherever it goes)....

Do you think the people who live there are stupid?

@amiga500
Those systems come off the line every day. Two were just delivered to Latvia this week. While I agree there will be a lead time, I would bet, some get shipped right away while the US looks to backfill with the newer equipment.

@Crnogorac3
Once again you prove you are delusional. Lyman will fall and 20 thousand Russian soldiers will fall with it at one time. This would be a considerable number of the remaining Orc forces in Ukraine. Replacing those veteran forces with recent conscripts spells the end of the Orc army.

There was no referenda. When residents who are not in the city to vote because they had to flee for their lives, then the vote is illegal. Not to worry though. All those Putinazi's who organized these sham's will be held accountable hopefully by public execution.

And now for the punchline... russia isn't going to "annex" them after all?

twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1575197790401007616

"it now won't have the desired "PR effect" on the Russian population that is dissatisfied with mobilization"

The russian flop sweat level is off the charts.....

Existing orders need to be filled per contractual obligations. Besides Poland needs some as well to rain fire and brimstone on the krauts if they keep up this eu money blackmail.

"But unlike the 16 HIMARS the military rushed to Ukraine from its existing stockpiles over the summer, these new weapons will be ordered from the manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, and will take "a few years" to deliver, a senior Defense Department official told reporters.

Shifting the source of Ukrainian military supplies from the Pentagon's own stockpile, which is large but not limitless, to items newly manufactured by the defense industry indicates that the White House and military leaders are transitioning to a sustainable model Kyiv can depend on for an open-ended war with Russia.

Privately, American commanders have also voiced concern that if the United States sends more HIMARS vehicles immediately, the Ukrainians will burn through the rocket ammunition provided by the Pentagon too quickly, potentially jeopardizing American military readiness in coming months."

Putler said he wasn't bluffing. He was of course.


I was impressed when she married Prince Harry.


That's pīss cheap. Ours costs £192 billion a year and the amount needs to be increased. That for 65 million people rather than however many there are there.

@amiga500
LOL Krauts. Disappointing there will be delays. While I think the time is ripe to decimate all those in Lyman. They must have a plan for that though too.

If the "referenda" are not accepted, this is a PR bungle for the leaders of those illegal referenda. Who can count on them for leadership in those small pockets of Orc supporters? That is a complete failure for them if it goes that way. And, it would take any real threat of a tactical nuke off the table when Russia would not consider them Russian territory. It is going to be an interesting few days.

exactly why they're not going ahead.... they want an excuse and so they found it.... standing up to russia almost never goes wrong, appeasement and good will always ends up backfiring....

The Russians entered the first city street behind the buildings in Bakhmut. The fight begins object by object.

Building. Learn English if you want to post in it

And r*SSia will lose; Street by Street fighting heavily favours Ukraine.

Russia wants to formalize the annexation of the four Russian-controlled regions in Ukraine. According to the Kremlin, "a ceremony for the signing of treaties on accession" is to take place this Friday.

spiegel.de/ausland/russland-will-vier-ukrainische-regionen-am-freitag-annektieren-a-3a7fea78-a180-4bea-9c09-41d6937871e7

Russia On Friday, the annexation of the four Russian-controlled regions in Ukraine will formally complete . At a ceremony on Friday afternoon in the Kremlin with President Vladimir Putin, the agreements on including these regions in the Russian Federation are to be signed, as Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov announced.

"A ceremony for the signing of agreements on the accession of new territories to the Russian Federation will be held at 3:00 p.m. (2:00 p.m. CEST) in the Grand Kremlin Palace," Peskov said. Previously there had been illegal mock referendums in the territories.

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Nobody in the civilized world will accept and recognize that!

The UNO just said yesterday that referenda in war times are generally not accepted under the Law of Nations and hence useless.

and Galicia goes to Poland.

But Romania and Hungary also wants.

Or even none; however you are trying (and failing) to defend the r*SSian asset Merkel, who trashed her own legacy and the credibility of the country that the lump pretended to represent.

She took people for a ride and harmed Europe, possibly for decades to come.


There is no 'her' British; in fact the only countries in Europe who have unfailingly supported Ukraine are the UK, Poland and the Baltics. All others have to one extent or other let them down.


She was a con artist. Kaiser Bill with a slightly smaller moustache and she (as well as the current german government) complicit in financing the deaths of (so far) more than 50,000 people.

Comparing Merkel to Hitler? Lost for words.

@Bratwurst Boy
Immediately following the ceremony, Russian military will close the "borders" of those regions and force those Ukrainian men trapped in those areas to be conscripted into the Orc army. Forcing them to potentially have to fight bothers and cousins on the Ukraine side of the war.