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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



pawian
4 Oct 2022  #3811

People in the u.s. should do this, too.

Don`t be stupid with this bs. It is natural there are RuSSists in Germany who put up such posters. Catch a few of them, shave their heads and deport back to RuSSia.

"Washington, Geneva, Brussels, London... and Tel Aviv."

You forgot Warsaw. hahahahahaha

pawian
4 Oct 2022  #3812

should do this,

While you should look and relish on the latest map of Ukrainian advances. How will you comment on it, especially in the light of other maps which you loved posting here at the beginning of the invasion?????

So, what do you think of the map?????


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Alien
4 Oct 2022  #3813

@Crnogorac3
People with mental disorders occur everywhere, even in Germany.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Oct 2022  #3814

@Crnogorac3

Where did you get that photo from? That is not even the german flag....but the Reichsflagge.

Do you even need/want the supporters of the old German Empire? Really? (I mean they weren't especially cozy with Russia/Sovietunion)

amiga500
5 Oct 2022  #3815

Includes a surprising number of PolAms

I think those polams complain about the refugees in poland, the cost to usa and bring up wolyn but when you corner them, they side with ukraine against russia's aggression.

Novichok
5 Oct 2022  #3816

It's not your war, suckers.
When it's over, get ready for another million or two to join those already in your country.
No, they will never leave as there will be no place to go to and no good reason to return to the country where the median income is exactly half of what people earn in Poland.

Another prediction: your government will hide their crime stats. Guaranteed.

Velund
5 Oct 2022  #3817

NATO does not accept countries with unresolved border issues.

Estonia (Nato member since 2004) also had (and still have) unresolved border issues, but it was not a problem for NATO. ;)

In 2005, the Estonian side thwarted the border deal with Moscow: at the stage of ratification of the already signed document, Tallinn unilaterally added a clause on continuation of the Tartu Treaty (legally invalidated in 1940). In response, Russia rejected the earlier agreements.

The treaty without the controversial preamble was signed again by the foreign ministers in Moscow on February 18, 2014. At the same time, the water area delimitation project in the Narva and Gulf of Finland was also approved. To date, the boundary treaty has not been ratified by the parties.

Crow
5 Oct 2022  #3818

So, what do you think of the map?????

I see nazi forces moved out of the shelters in cities and concentrate to attack on Russian fortified forces. The situation reversed. So now nazi forces have much bigger casualties then before, while civilians are spared. And when Russians move forward, when nazis are on the open, many more nazis would be more easily to eliminate then previously when they were in shelters.

PolAmKrakow
5 Oct 2022  #3819

@Velund
Great history lesson, but NATO isn't about to take in Ukraine. NATO ground forces will not enter the war in order to get Ukraine into NATO. NATO doesn't need to add Ukraine to defeat Russia in Ukraine. Once Putin is gone though, it might happen. I think you can look at some of the other countries allegedly still loyal to Russia also jumping ship for NATO. Kazakhstan would be one that looks ready to leave.

As all these great discussions have been taking place on PF, Ukraine is speeding up the advance in Kherson. Russians are leaving the bodies of their comrades in the streets as they retreat. When Kherson is back in Ukraine control, Crimea is in deep $hit and you will see the rest of the Russians leave the peninsula. Still about 4 to 6 weeks left before it starts getting really cold in Ukraine. Plenty of time to take huge chunks of land back.

@Crow
You have lost your mind. There are no Reports of Russia doing anything but dying in Ukraine streets.

Crow
5 Oct 2022  #3820

You have lost your mind.

So that is the reason I feel refreshed..

There are no Reports of Russia doing anything but dying in Ukraine streets.

Whose reports?

PolAmKrakow
5 Oct 2022  #3821

@Novichok
In Pisky-Radkivski it is being reported that the Ukraine army has uncovered a torture chamber and in that chamber was a can full of extracted gold teeth. That doesn't sound like the Nazi's? Maybe some haircuts need to take place in the filtration camps to make it more Nazish? As to your point on the Ukraine people not leaving, more are going back to Ukraine now than are coming to Poland.

Paulina
5 Oct 2022  #3822

A very good, detailed (including some gruesome details ;/), moving and I think objective interview (only in Polish, unfortunately) on YouTube channel called "Historia realna" ("Real History") with a Polish war correspondent who's been reporting war in Ukraine (he works for Polsat and "Newsweek"):

youtu.be/pQrJ1Oi8ZJw

This episode is mainly about exhumations of mass graves in Izyum.

He also said that he had a confirmed information that at least two women with their hands tied behind their back were kidnapped by RuSSian soldiers and they disappeared.

He also talked to a RuSSian soldier caught by Ukrainian soldiers - Yevgeny Nul (?) (he recorded this interview - it lasts 15 minutes) who said that he is a convict (and a former soldier) who was sentenced in 1999 for 24 years in a penal colony in Ryazan for murder. He also tried to escape from there, so they gave him 4 more years. Three other prisoners escaped with him. Once they were caught two of them got beat up to death. It was his 23 year in prison when a Wagner member came and said that if he serves for 6 months, he'll be free. It was a penal colony where there were police officers, soldiers, prosecutors serving sentences for serious crimes. 92 men from that prison were "mobilised" by the Wagner group in this way (they were coming there since summer, I think).

The reporter is also talking in detail about the Ukrainian counter-offensive in Izyum, what troops took part, what kind of RuSSian troops were in Izyum and how they behaved, the equipment, hasty escape, how they devastated an Orthodox church in which they made a makeshift hospital for themselves, etc.

They're also discussing war crimes, potential war crimes tribunal, etc.

Paulina
5 Oct 2022  #3823

Here's the interview in Russian with Polish subtitles with that convict conscripted by the Wagner Group from Ryazan penal colony of Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs for police officers, Rosgvardiya soldiers, prosecutors:

youtu.be/85g3qzJKu9M

Yevgeny Nul (?)

Yevgeny Nuzhin, sorry (Jewgienij Nużyn).

Yevgeny Prigozhin came to their penal colony twice - first time in July to convince them to take part in invasion of Ukraine and then in August (there's even a video of him talking to prisoners included in that interview :O).

PolAmKrakow
5 Oct 2022  #3824

Russians in Luhansk are starting to panic. Reports from people embedded with the Russian forces are now saying that Ukraine cannot be stopped and that they not only have the advantage in weapons but in manpower as well. Russians are still retreating. More advances today in Kherson as well.

Meanwhile in Russia Peskov refuses to define what is "Russian territory" in the four illegally annexed regions. And the Russian reporter who was placed on house arrest for criticizing the military and war in Ukraine has left house arrest and is now calling for the arrest and imprisonment of Putin for starting the war and causing the deaths of a whole generation of Russian men. These kind of sparks can ignite a fire in Russia.

Paulina
5 Oct 2022  #3825

Interesting... This convict claims that he enlisted on purpose so he could give in to Ukrainians and join the Russian Legion fighting on the Ukrainian side. He says he has family in Ukraine and he wouldn't be able to fight against them. He didn't tell the RuSSian army that he has family there, because they won't send those people to Ukraine who have Ukrainian relatives.

Crnogorac3
5 Oct 2022  #3826

🇮🇪 🇺🇦 Irish Call of Duty loser demilitarised in Ukraine

thesun.ie/news/9514834/irishman-killed-action-fighting-ukraine-devastated-proud/

t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/11048

Ukraine war: Irishman Rory Mason killed fighting for International Legion

bbc.com/news/world-europe-63141448

Paulina
5 Oct 2022  #3827

@Crnogorac3, what it's like to be on the side of army of convicts, murderers, rapists, thieves, alcoholics, drug addicts and cannon fodder who are told to stop bleeding from their wounds with women's tampons? Are you proud of yourself?

PolAmKrakow
5 Oct 2022  #3828

@Crnogorac3
The Ukraine army just wiped out a platoon of SPETZNAZ including lieutenants, a major, and a bunch of young 21 year old fighters in Luhansk. Those special forces are now more special fertilizing the Ukraine land with their blood for Ukraine to plant crops and build a future on top of them. One Irishman for a whole bunch of Orc's? I am sure even the Irishman would have approved. Happy gulag biatches!

Paulina
5 Oct 2022  #3829

convict conscripted by the Wagner Group from Ryazan penal colony of Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs for police officers, Rosgvardiya soldiers, prosecutors:

In the town of Skopin, Ryazan region, to be more precise (FKU IK-3):

yandex.eu/maps/org/fku_ik_3_ufsin_rossii_po_ryazanskoy_oblasti/1353830830/?ll=39.468466%2C53.791072&z=13

Novichok
5 Oct 2022  #3830

That doesn't sound like the Nazi's?

Yes, it does but it does not make Russia a Nazi nation.
Nazism was exclusively German and imposed by force from the top - or else. Individual crimes and abhorent acts do not make the country a "Nazi" country.

Those special forces are ... fertilizing the Ukraine land with their blood for Ukraine to plant crops and build a future on top of them.

Next time, can you say the same thing without making your readers sick?

Crnogorac3
5 Oct 2022  #3831

@Crnogorac3, what it's like to be on the side of army of convicts, murderers, rapists, thieves, alcoholics, drug addicts and cannon fodder

@Paulina

stormer-daily.rw/stupid-(b)itch/

(to view remove parentheses from b)

Novichok
5 Oct 2022  #3832

A reader's comment from RT.com:

I'm Australian and don't have a horse in this race. I'm free to just observe this as a Detective might to solve a case, determine who initiated this, how, and who is involved etc. Western Corporate Media definitely pushing same US driven propaganda.

Noticed they never give any evidence to claims, can't provide empirical evidence or demonstrate any logic in their claims. Like currently - Suggesting Russia sabotage Nordstream. detectives look for motive. Russia has none. US on other hand.....

based on the consistent pattern of Western political spin on everything, in contrast to what I've heard from Putin and his Senior Officials, which has remained consistent, their conditions for peace state a Neutral Ukraine, No NATO Membership & demilitarisation and removal of Neo Nazi in Kiev.

If Putin wanted to overtake Ukraine, why waste time entertaining peace talks? If his conditions met, I believe he would honour it. It's in his interest to stop war. The war dragged on is coz, they REALLY do view Ukrainians as 'cousins', Like Aussies & Kiwis. Putin stated this, he doesn't want to hurt Ukrainians, just the Neo Nazi facsists occupying power in Kiev.

Hence, Russia using tanks and troops - its slower, risk soldiers in fire fights BUT minimise civilian casualties. He could instead use drones, bombers and missiles raining fire on Ukraine, end the war in a week BUT the civilian casualties and infrastructure damage would be devastating. Putin chose the former.

Despite ridicule from West that Russian Army is pathetic - Putin has stayed his course. Russia is a Nuclear SUPER POWER, have ppl forgotten? if you understand the full weight of Putin's choice in putting Ukrainian civilian lives a priority over a quick, brutal but effective victory at great human cost, then I believe you can determine the truth for yourself now.

cms neuf
5 Oct 2022  #3833

Russia is a superpower in producing amateur **** and oily grey food.

At war, certainly not

mafketis
5 Oct 2022  #3834

I believe he would honour it

Like he honored the Budapest memorandum?

Nope. No trust for putain... ever!

Novichok
5 Oct 2022  #3835

At war, certainly not

You are correct. The only way to win is by treating every man, woman, and child as a military target. Just as the Allies did in WW2.

cms neuf
5 Oct 2022  #3836

But Ukraine is winning without doing that.

They are using the simple but effective tactic of staying sober and putting petrol in their tanks

Novichok
5 Oct 2022  #3837

But Ukraine is winning without doing that.

"Ukraine is winning" because Putin is not doing that.
He could have easily, being a "crazy man", given an ultimatum to deliver Z and his buddies to Moscow or Kyiv is flat. Like Hiroshima.

Crnogorac3
5 Oct 2022  #3838

Anglin:

stormer-daily.rw/germany-is-a-(b)itch-country-us-destroys-their-entire-industry-they-just-sit-there-and-take-it/

stormer-daily.rw/germany-says-the-us-is-ripping-them-off-on-gas-will-never-say-us-bombed-the-pipes/

PolAmKrakow
5 Oct 2022  #3839

@Novichok
I write this way because the scumbag Crnog exists on PF. Get rid of him and his BS and I will tone down. Until then, let the hamburger fly.

I don't think Putin is crazy, I think he is stupid. He has no real education; he is a street thug appointed to his position by a drunk Yeltsin. He is a long distance killer, a pu$$y who has never killed anyone or anything himself. He glorifies war because he has never been in it. He is another Hitler by deed, and by false narrative. He is a small punk who should be shot in the head with no trial and no mercy.

Russia is not a super power. Russia simply exists for the powerful to exploit, and for the world to use its resources. Thats it. A paid slave to the western world, a prostitute country and nothing more. They have nukes, and no one is afraid anymore. They mean nothing. All the $hit talking of the Russian supports is a joke because Russia has done nothing and will do nothing. The west will win again. Its already over.

Crnogorac3
5 Oct 2022  #3840

As the US dollar strengthens, meanwhile the vassals, servants, lackeys and serfs are falling apart:

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