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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



Novichok
4 Oct 2022  #3781

Namely that the Ukrainian resistance was only ordered from the top, and not deeply rooted within Ukrainian society.

Nonsense. "Resistance" covers a very wide range. Resistance to extermination is not the same as resistance to higher taxes or to being taught a foreign language.

Russia never intended to exterminate Ukrainians or ban the Ukrainian language.
BTW, do not give me "but the USSR". Russia today is not the USSR just as Germany is not what it was in 1939.

Nazi Russia's main issue is leadership.

Your emotions are in conflict with logic. By saying "Nazi Russians" you are indirectly claiming that there are Russians that are not Nazis. For the distinction to be relevant it must be related to your post. It isn't. You used "Nazi Russia" to vent.

So Putin is an idiot.

A baseless claim since you don't know how many cruise missiles Russia has.

amiga500
4 Oct 2022  #3782

Drafted Russian men DUMPED to sleep out in the cold with no food

LEAKED footage shows the appaling conditions suffered by Russian men drafted by Putin - as they are left to sleep in fields with no tents in Siberia.

youtube.com/watch?v=8Jjl3mjUP-4

Joker
4 Oct 2022  #3783

LEAKED footage shows the appaling conditions suffered by Russian

Oh those guys look excited about the situation. They get dumped into a field and see ya later, maybe tomorrow...lol

PolAmKrakow
4 Oct 2022  #3784

@Novichok
Amusing you telling people not to compare things to the past. Considering nearly all of your Russian arguments are based upon a historical war the US was involved in. It is your writing that defies logic. Russia is the new Nazi nation, simple and easy to understand.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is rapidly advancing in Kherson and outside of Lyman. Regaining territory much more quickly than Russia was able to take it in the spring and summer. The Orc's are not only retreating, but they are leaving the little supplies they had behind. With Lyman in Ukraine hands, Orc supply lines are cut off and soon, they will begin starving as well as freezing. The Orc's think it is going to be a cold winter for the EU, they must have forgotten what it is like sleeping outside in summer gear in that same cold winter. Happy gulag biatches!

cms neuf
4 Oct 2022  #3785

I wonder what those guys in the field think about the trolls sitting on their backside in Moscow enjoying luxuries like a kettle and a 3 day old donut.

PolAmKrakow
4 Oct 2022  #3786

Looks like demonstrations are beginning in Chechnya now. They have pulled more than double the amount of fighters from Chechnya than they had planned for and now people are seeing there is no end in sight.

Reports now coming in that conscripts from last week are already getting killed on the front lines. Zero training, zero equipment, zero chance of survival. With a little warm weather snap coming this week, Ukraine could make another big push before it starts getting really cold. Even then, Ukraine will have winter gear while the Orc's will not. Hard pulling the trigger on your AK when your finger is frozen to it. lol

PolAmKrakow
4 Oct 2022  #3787

How stupid and ill equipped are the Orc's?

"Advancing Ukrainian forces appear to be using U.S.-supplied network-centric warfare technology that allows them to identify friends and foes on the battlefield, according to pro-Russian military bloggers cited by Economist correspondent Oliver Carroll on Tuesday.

As evidence of net-centric capabilities, the bloggers pointed to the letters Z and V - identifying symbols used by the Russian military - emblazoned on Ukrainian military equipment to deceive Russian troops and cause the collapse of their defensive lines."

LMFAO Ukraine is dressing up like Orc's rolling in and destroying the Orc's in place! LMFAO If that is not justice I do not know what is. Thats just priceless.

amiga500
4 Oct 2022  #3788

russian kherson front is collapsing

maps 4hrs apart from RU source.

twitter.com/kylejglen/status/1577280165377638400?s=21&t=Qn6u1qtVecOvq62Q12SmLA

Novichok
4 Oct 2022  #3789

Question to RT haters...Can you name one mainstream TV personality in Poland who said: This is not our war and not our problem.

In the US, even Fox toes the line. Such is the control of what the Western presstitutes are allowed to say.

Novichok
4 Oct 2022  #3790

Russia is the new Nazi nation, simple and easy to understand.

No, it's not. A NAZI nation has a NAZI party, a NAZI system of oppression, and a large number of NAZI sympathizers.

Germany had all of the above.

Russia has none of the above.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Oct 2022  #3791

Russia has none of the above.

Agreed!

...Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

I would say Putin's dictatorship lacks the ethnical, racist part of Nazism....in his case it would be probably "Slavism"!

But Putin is not really fussy about his supporters and his soldiers....quite the contrary, it seems the majority of those doing the fighting and dying for him are everything but Slavs.

He knows very well it would be the end of every dream of a russian empire if he starts to divide the masses into "good pure blooded Russians" and starts to discriminate the rest, which outnumber the Russians.

Tacitus
4 Oct 2022  #3792

starts to divide the masses

Well, Putin seems to be smart enough to not spell this out. But it has been well documented that parts of Russia with non-caucasian majorities are chronically underfunded and now have been heavily used to draft people for the war. Some of those ultranationalist idelogists who are supposedly linked to him even stated that this an opportunity to "purge" Russia from unwanted elements and "strengthen" it with "Russian" blood from Ukraine.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Oct 2022  #3793

....do these elements have a party?

PolAmKrakow
4 Oct 2022  #3794

@Novichok
I disagree. Putin wants to eliminate Ukraine as a nation. He has in fact said it does not exist and he would wipe it from the map. He said it was an abomination created out of the former USSR. Wiping a whole nation off the map, Ukrkaine people do not exist.....if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, its probably a duck. Because he isnt using his "most Russian" people it would further the point that only non white Russians should be fighting and dying in Ukraine. The original Nazi's partnered with Japan in order to further its goals, Putin is just using the ethnic groups for his purposes. Clearly there are differences, but I would expect Nazi's to evolve a little in 80 years too.

@amiga500
My money is still on Kherson being back in Ukraine hands in the next two weeks.

Crnogorac3
4 Oct 2022  #3795

youtu.be/UZtFiK3cO1I
October 3 Sitrep

PolAmKrakow
4 Oct 2022  #3796

USA sending out of current stocks to Ukraine:

Four more High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) as well as more howitzers and ammunition, according to a senior defense official.

The package, which falls under a Presidential Drawdown Authority and will be pulled directly from US stocks, also includes 16 155mm howitzers and 16 105mm howitzers along with the associated ammunition, the official said.

This package will give Ukraine a total of 20 HIMARS systems, which the Ukrainian military has used to great effect against Russian forces. The Ukrainians have used the Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) munition, fired from the HIMARS vehicle, to carry out precision strikes against Russian logistics hubs, command posts, ammunition depots and more.

Great news. Raining fire down on Orc nation with more HIMARS. With more Orc's headed to the front, these new weapons should help liquidate them most efficiently before the ground freezes causing their blood to puddle instead of fertilizing through the winter. Excellent news for the grain industry for next years harvest. I wonder if they have given thought to using the surviving Orc's as labor to help with that harvest.

cms neuf
4 Oct 2022  #3797

Who in Poland could say "this is not our problem" ?

Of course it is - our two biggest neighbors fighting plus senior Russian politicians overtly threaten us.

There is a small number of people who don't support Russia but do want a negotiated peace.

There is a an even smaller number, real nutjobs and spies, who support Russia. Includes a surprising number of PolAms but Poles in the UK and EU countries all are heavily pro Ukraine

GefreiterKania
4 Oct 2022  #3798

russian kherson front is collapsing

Even the most vehement putinists must surely see this war is a complete and utter disaster.

But of course Putinescu will tell you that the "special operation" is going according to the plan and all its aims will be realised. *rolls eyes* How much longer will Russians follow this madman?

Kashub1410
4 Oct 2022  #3799

@GefreiterKania
Putinists merely see Putin as their avatar probably, as their face to the outside world.

If it wasn't for that, most Russians would revolted long time ago. You probably read it too, "they are too many bla bla bla"

The Russian establishment is too heavily invested in Putin, unless the establishment finds somebody else who will actually save their butts and make them feel good. They will blindly think that foreign agencies stand behind everything and are to blame.

pawian
4 Oct 2022  #3800

Question to RT haters...Can you name one mainstream

Your question was burdened with a certain original sin - you addressed RT haters, while there are none here. That is why it remained unanswered.

BTW, by RT do you mean RuSSia Today, RuSSist TV station???

cms neuf
4 Oct 2022  #3801

Like most Russians he assumes all of the media is under state control in Poland. In fact we have a thriving free media since er...1989, coincidentally the year we waved goodbye to the fridge thieves

mafketis
4 Oct 2022  #3802

by RT do you mean RuSSia Today

Of course. It's essentially a russian psy-op meant to draw in the politically disaffected and emotionally needy (encouraged to see putain as their powerful daddy figure who will save them).

People need to look up the name Surkov and the term 'hybrid warfare' because RT is a big part of that.

Korvinus
4 Oct 2022  #3803

NAZI party, a NAZI system of oppression, and a large number of NAZI sympathizers.

And yet you accused the Ukraine to have it?
While Russia has Putin, who is literally Hitler?

Crow
4 Oct 2022  #3804

O?

If I may.

/ just took my lemonade and looked at PF,... loooking.... ah... I told to myself, they still seek to convince each others to change their minds and ALL have only one desire, to WIN... sad I concluded in my mind and then despite that started /

I would say, with all support of NATO and EU, Ukraine will win, if not on this life, then in another.

pawian
4 Oct 2022  #3805

ban the Ukrainian language.

It has already happened in illegally "annexed" territories, darling, so stop lying, can you?

chytomo.com/en/ukrainian-language-to-be-banned-in-mariupol-even-during-school-breaks/

Crow
4 Oct 2022  #3806

USA is completely illegal. Now Russia.

pawian
4 Oct 2022  #3807

RT

I don`t watch it so I can`t be a hater. No Poles here do so they aren`t haters, either. Guys who watch it are RuSSists.

Novi, what did you mean with those RT haters?????

USA is completely illegal. Now Russia.

The USA isn`t perfect, but RuSSia is a disaster in comparison. And it will remain so until RuSSists give up their criminal obsessions.

Crow
4 Oct 2022  #3808

I want to see how ALL on Earth respect international order.

cms neuf
4 Oct 2022  #3809

Great to see the Ukies are even effective at using the captured Russian equipment. In many cases it was ok but the Russians were too disorganized to get spare parts or often too drunk to properly maintain it.

Crnogorac3
4 Oct 2022  #3810

1

People in the u.s. should do this, too.

"Washington, Geneva, Brussels, London... and Tel Aviv."


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