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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



Crow
7 Oct 2022  #3961

@Novichok

Putin made mistake. He don`t need to convince anybody that he wants to spare lives in Ukraine but war is war. And why talks to open enemy? For what? If enemy force attacks you, you destroy it with utter efficiency. Russian army now made same mistake as Yugoslavian federal army when revived nazi croat ustashe sought to create Greater Croatia with support of Germany, EU and NATO. Empathy until monsters were not armed by NATO. What fu*king empathy for deluded idiots that doing job for the enemy. Plus, Putin tolerate that NATO and EU meddling. Where is ultimatum? What Putin thinks? NATO and EU will stop? They will grill Russians if Putin continue to hesitate. Actually, Putin is past. I expect any moment to see him go.

mafketis
7 Oct 2022  #3962

If enemy force attacks you, you destroy it with utter efficiency

yes! I can't believe a serb is recognizing the need to nuke moscow today! and petrograd tomorrow! then give russia one day to surrender unconditionally or a new city gets nuked each day until they do!

that will save so many Ukrainian lives!

Crow
7 Oct 2022  #3963

@mafketis, one of these days you will see how NATO and EU goes in pizda materina when proper ultimatum arrive. Days of jokes ending fast.

mafketis
7 Oct 2022  #3964

you will see how NATO and EU goes in pizda materina

you expect them to invade serbia? Cool!

Crow
7 Oct 2022  #3965

they may sit and stab themself to the full orgasm.

PolAmKrakow
7 Oct 2022  #3966

@Crow
LMFAO you are either the funniest Serb alive or fvcking retarded. Days of Jokes ending fast? LOL Right. Jokes of Serbia being anything but a toilet? Jokes of Orc's dying and being left to rot in the streets? Please spare us the dreaming.

Novichok
7 Oct 2022  #3967

If enemy force attacks you, you destroy it with utter efficiency.

And never, ever tell the enemy your self-imposed limits and what you will not do. It's so stupid...This Western idea of "limited" and "proportional" gave us Korea, Vietnam, and millions of dead human beings. Sick a-holes...

Days of Jokes ending fast?

He is right. Russia is in a self-made corner after the referendum and the four regions becoming Russia. If Russia let Z take them, Crimea is next, and a "revolution" like the one in 2014 after that in Moscow.

We already know from the last one as well as 1917 that all it takes is a well-organized and financed minority to have one. If you have any problems with this, look at the US - a "democracy" controlled by a small group of globalist bastards. Just google "open borders" and then find one sane person who is for it.

cms neuf
7 Oct 2022  #3968

What referendum are you talking about ?

If you feel so strongly about that region then volunteer. The Russians will take anyone, even losers like you

Paulina
7 Oct 2022  #3969

Russia is in a self-made corner after the referendum and the four regions becoming Russia.

Yes, RuSSia seems to like to get itself into self-made corners and then complain that it "feels cornered" lol

Just google "open borders" and then find one sane person who is for it.

Putin seems to like the idea, but then again he maybe isn't very sane lol

Paulina
7 Oct 2022  #3970

Apparently, the Russian government lacks money for the pay and equipment of newly drafted recruits.

In this video the mobilised in RuSSia are told by a military unit representative in Altai region that they won't get anything besides uniform (and ammunition?) and they have to buy or bring everything else on their own:

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1574501707102318592?s=20&t=Dc7b3cAggrzHkhjM6KEsBg

One of the recruits says that there are no tourniquets in pharmacies. So she says that they should take the ones from their car's first aid kits. She also tells them to ask their wives, girlfriends and mothers for the cheapest menstrual pads and tampons. They can put tampons into bullet holes, they'll swell up and stop the bleeding. She knows this "since Chechnya", she says.

cms neuf
7 Oct 2022  #3971

If they run out of tampons they can always use the napkins from the 24 hour sushi bar

It's amazing that they put up with this abuse. Like they are lobotomized

The Asian parts of Russia seem to have living standards lower than China and India now .

pawian
7 Oct 2022  #3972

They can put tampons into bullet holes,

That is amaSSing that such a loser country is still trying to play a superpower. Those are the last convulsions before RuSSia collapses and disintegrates.

Germans and Anglos that pretend to be Polish.

While native Poles are adamantly anti RuSSist. And that is what really matters. Your efforts here are futile. Poles will never go with RuSSia against Europe. Forget it.

Poles will never go with RuSSia against Europe.

Why? Because RuSSist Mongols` mentality is repulsive to us. Simple.

Bratwurst Boy
7 Oct 2022  #3973

They can put tampons into bullet holes, they'll swell up and stop the bleeding.

Well....to be able to improvise is actually a helpful characteristic in such a lacking environment....but it really destroys the image of a mighty Red Army Russians themselves and especially the World used to believe in.

They won't recover from that so quickly.....no future parade in the Red Square is going to change that!

Korvinus
7 Oct 2022  #3974

Zelenskiy is to condemn the Volhynian slaughter and submit an act on the special status of Poles​
rmf24.pl/raporty/raport-wojna-z-rosja/news-media-zelenski-ma-potepic-rzez-wolynska-i-zglosic-ustawe-o-s,nId,6147923#crp_state=1

Zelensky to condemn Bandera... true or just clown act for the Poles?
Haven't heard about it yet. Google says media quote Duda but don't mention Bandera and say there is no law proposal on UKR parliament site yet.

mafketis
7 Oct 2022  #3975

Zelensky to condemn Bandera...

I'm not a fan of Bandera*, but to be fair he was not involved in Wołyń (sitting in a concentration camp at the time) and the bulk of guilt for that falls on Mykola Lebed...

*He was a product of his time... which was extraordinarily brutal...

Novichok
7 Oct 2022  #3976

Quoting msn.com:

"Everybody is keen on searching for signs of Russia folding, and you do see internal tensions," a senior Baltic official said. "But Russia is now on a war footing, and they are still going. We haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise."

The article, as good as it is, did not explain what damn business it is of ours to risk a nuclear confrontation when two ex-Soviet republics are at each other's throat.

cms neuf
7 Oct 2022  #3977

No - this is one still Soviet republic invading a peaceful democracy with the intention of murder and rape.

It's our business because we would be the next target - though on this showing Poland's army would wipe the floor with the Russian drunk army

mafketis
7 Oct 2022  #3978

It's putain's birthday!!!! Did novichok bake a cake? Did he hide inside so he could burst out and do a special little dance for his man-crush?

Anyhoo.... here's a generalsvr thread with an unofficial biography of putain.

I've heard/read most of it before (that he's two years older than his official age, that he had an unstable and turbulent childhood - sent away by his mother in Georgia and taken in by a foster family in Petrograd, that he was physically abused by more than one 'father figure' etc)

But for some here the information, unconfirmed but available from many sources, might be interesting....

twitter.com/generalsvr_en/status/1578374712442245121

Miloslaw
7 Oct 2022  #3979

: RT is the best and most balanced source on the globe and I can prove it.

Go on then.

Paulina
7 Oct 2022  #3980

Well....to be able to improvise is actually a helpful characteristic in such a lacking environment....

I agree. It is shocking though that apparently nothing improved there since Chechnya... Or not so shocking if you know the mentality and the scale of corruption in RuSSia...

Here's a great video on this topic - on one hand it's narrated in a funny way, but at the same time it's a detailed analysis from a former American soldier of the corruption in RuSSian military and military industry:

Shocking Russian Military Corruption Exposed (this video was posted 3 months ago):

youtu.be/8F0kSDV9U_E

Go on then.

:D

Miloslaw
7 Oct 2022  #3981

not so shocking if you know the mentality and the scale of corruption in RuSSia...

The mentality in Russia is not the same as Europe and North America.
And the corruption is on a scale with India and Africa.

Alien
7 Oct 2022  #3982

Their mentality is best described by the phrase; homo sovieticus.

Novichok
8 Oct 2022  #3983

It's our business because we would be the next target

No, you would not be because the US is protecting your Polish asses.

PolAmKrakow
8 Oct 2022  #3984

@Novichok
Russia is in a corner, and no one is afraid anymore. The truth has been laid bare. The Russian military is a joke. Nukes? Putin is in a corner, but he wants to survive. A tactical nuke is possible, but nothing more, and it would be the end of him. China and India would run, and Russia would be completely cut off. Putin has only proven what the rest of the intelligent world has known. He is a street punk with little intelligence. He cannot think his way out of problems and has to create chaos in order to misdirect from other mistakes. He is simply a loser who has held on too long. History will remember him no better than Stalin.

Novichok
8 Oct 2022  #3985

History will remember him no better than Stalin.

I wouldn't go this far but I agree with the rest of your post.

The Russian military is a joke.

Russia is capable of defending itself but, as most countries, is not capable of being an aggressor when a cheap hand-held weapon can take out a tank or a fighter plane.

The only country that can be very effective as an aggressor is the US; it can invade and kill with impunity. The latest example is the US killing a couple of ISIS a-holes in Syria. To the best of my knowledge, without permission from the Syrian government.

GefreiterKania
8 Oct 2022  #3986

Meanwhile, more and more Russians keep running away from Putin's draft. Some try to get to the EU; Finland, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Armenia and Turkey see droves of Russians fleeing the possibility to become heroes...

globalvoices.org/2022/10/07/russians-fleeing-putins-war-face-long-border-queues-overpriced-flights-fear-and-uncertainty/

... two of them even managed to escape to Alaska!

nytimes.com/2022/10/07/world/europe/russia-alaska-draft-evaders.html

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Russia - the only country in the world from which people run away not because it was invaded, but because it invaded another country. :D

PolAmKrakow
8 Oct 2022  #3987

Putin now wants a new "grand bargain" with the west. LMFAO Moscow feels that the agreements made at the end of the Cold War, under Presidents Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin, no longer reflect the Russia of today. ROTFLMFAO Putin wants to make a deal with the west? This is just too funny. He is in no position to negotiate. Sending these messages through Turkey, shows he knows he is a dead man walking now.

St. Petersburg has canceled New Years Eve celebrations in order to take those funds and use them to buy supplies for soldiers mobilized from their city. Again LMFAO because now the federal government a.k.a. cant even pick up the tab for their own mobilization efforts. Cities across Russia are being called on to pay the conscripts and supply them from their own coffers. But of course those sanctions are not working. Right Orc's?

Things are going to get very ugly inside Orc nation very soon. It is going to become very dangerous for Putin and anyone else looking to make a move on him. This message of wanting a new deal with the west is nothing more than a drowning man looking for a life preserver. Going through Turkey to deliver the message is nothing more than throwing a bone to that leadership in the hope it can be used in the final approvals of Finland and Sweden in NATO. This is my thinking. Just as I said before, there is no place for Putin now except dead, in exile, or prison.

Alien
8 Oct 2022  #3988

@Novichok
Killing ISIS a-holes in Syria is like killing RUSS-IS a-holes in Ukraine and this time with permission from the Ukrainian government.

amiga500
8 Oct 2022  #3989

Kerch Bridge not looking good atm, planted explosives? twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1578605119012077568

Paulina
8 Oct 2022  #3990

is not capable of being an aggressor when a cheap hand-held weapon can take out a tank or a fighter plane.

Nah, those are excuses. Taking out a tank (let alone a fighter plane) with a cheap hand-held weapon isn't as easy as Ukrainians made it look like. It does help though if a tank is stranded due to lack of fuel, because the crew sold it or it was sold off even earlier by someone from their unit. It also helps, I think, if the aggressor country is so corrupted that it isn't capable of providing their soldiers with both basic necessities and equipment that would give them an edge on the battlefield. It's all there in that video I linked to, but I guess you haven't watched it, so I'm going to link to my post - do check out that video - it's quite an eye opener :):

Of course, it helps even more if the aggressor army is commanded by "impostors", rather than real commanders from the very bottom to the high up with both the commander-in-chief (Putin) and the minister of defence (Shoigu) having no military experience.

street punk with little intelligence. He cannot think his way out of problems and has to create chaos in order to misdirect from other mistakes.

This is a good diagnosis of Putin's mentality, I think... "create chaos in order to misdirect from other mistakes" - spot on.

Victor Orban booed out by people in the streets when he arrived to a summit in Prague :):

twitter.com/kropka_hu/status/1578357046759788548?s=20&t=dNoVZT-OIZV5zUld95hPYQ


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