Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

No, thank you.

But while we're here.... Have you realized that russia's main ally now is Iran? A fundamentalist islamic theocracy that beats young women to death for showing their hair on the street?

How does that make you feel?

Also the firefight in Belgorod was carried out by muslim recuits who were not happy to fight for putain...

"Allah is a coward" they were told....

That's when they started shooting....

A lot to process?

The best thing about the retard Crnog is that he continues to show a complete lack of intelligence. He is the baseline to which all Putinazi's are measured. On top of the incredible lack of intelligence, he is also clearly devoid of honor as he advocates for the continued killing of innocents. He is a shining example of what needs to be destroyed in Russia and its Orc supporters. In case he has not noticed, the majority of Orc's entering Ukraine are being processed into hamburger within days of arrival. Happy gulag biatches!

Some of the desperate Russian draft dodgers are now fleeing by sea to South Korea where they are being turned away.

@johnny reb
I even saw a video of interviewed Georgians who see Russia as occupying 20% of their country. It all seems bizarre

Regarding Russian draft dodgers

Now that Iran is arming Russians with drones and rockets, in return for Russian atomic weapons technology, it won't be long before Iranians have their own nuclear weapons. That's why Israel changed their tune and talks about supporting Ukraine now. It's getting interesting.

Iran, just like the US, is legally entitled to have all the nukes it can afford.


...to make Russia to Iran nuke transfer quicker. The likelihood of Russia not doing it because Israel decided to help Ukraine is about zero.

Russian nuclear technology? LOL. Who th hell would want that ?

From the late 1940s ?

You guys still wear shoes made out of birch bark

I see Russia's highly trained pilots have just totaled their own plane into a residential block. RIP to the poor souls who live there, victims of more KGB incompetence

Easy now.
Iranian drones are precise, small in size, able to engage a target in relatively large numbers like a swarm of wasps and above all, they're cheap.

In Russia's invasion of Ukraine, drones have confirmed their reputation as a potent, hard-to-stop and cost-effective weapon to seek out and destroy targets while simultaneously spreading the kind of terror that can fray the resolve of soldiers and civilians alike.

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Russia's unleashing of successive waves of the Iranian-made Shahed drones over Ukraine has multiple aims - take out key targets, crush morale and ultimately drain the enemy's war chest and weapons trying to defend against them as the conflict evolves into a longer war of attrition.

According to the Ukrainian online publication Defense Express citing Iranian data, the delta-wing Shahed is 3½ meters (11½ feet) long, 2.5½ meters (about eight feet) wide and weighs approximately 200 kilograms (440 pounds). It's powered by a 50-horsepower engine with a top speed of 185 kph (114 mph) and has a maximum range of 2,500 kilometers (1,500 miles).

@Novichok
You are right. The problem with Iran is, they are indiscriminate people and will be itching to use them offensively. Russians are retarded, Iranians are single cell life forms with no actual intelligence. It is the same as giving a crack head a kilo of crack and telling him not to smoke it.

So turns out this pilot instead of turning his plane away from the town, simply ejected and let it plough into the homes of innocent people who were eating their sprats and reading the party newspaper by candlelight.

Shows the complete disregard for human life that the Russians have

an integral part of russian "culture".... aka a sewer

Putin has made the next grave miscalculation. Thinking Israel would not support Ukraine because of Russian Jews. But giving Iran technology that can impact the Jews was a red line and now Russia is losing an otherwise neutral country as Israel will now give Ukraine air defense systems. How Fing stupid is this guy?!

more specifically allowing Iran to field test technology that could be used against Israel itself....

It does seem fitting that putain's final ally is a government that beats young women to death for showing their hair in public...

worst attracts worsts (though the everyday Iranians I've known are far superior to russians)

Agreed.But please call them Persians.
But isn't everyone far superior to Russians?

Therefore what? Attack Iran? How many countries can the US attack because they MIGHT be itching to use their weapons offensively?

The best way to find Russia-hating morons is by looking for those who want to have it both ways: 1. Russia's military is weak. 2. Russia is planning to occupy Western Europe.

That second idiotic claim is meant to justify adding gas to the fire in Ukraine: If we don't fight them there, we will have to fight them here. Meaning in Warsaw, Berlin, Paris, and London.

Oops, I forgot NY and DC. BTW, I heard that argument to justify our invasion of Afghanistan.

Don`t be stupid. Sanctions are enough right now.


It is weak now. But if proper measures are not taken, they will strengthen again within a few years and attack. What measures? Total ban on trade with RuSSia and all sanctions possible. We will see how long RuSSists will endure in such conditions. Such a little test. :):):)

Of course Ukraine has to be the place Russian aggression is stopped

They have no shown what they are like - remorseless Nazis who will murder civilians and their own people. The democracies of the world should invest whatever is needed to defeat them.

Iran will probably implode on its own. When that happens the drone producers can go on trial. Not just the military but anyone who as much as tightened a screw on them.

Funny that you of all people are asking this question... lol How many countries can RuSSia attack because they MIGHT one day be joining NATO? I'm not even mentioning NATO attacking RuSSia from their territory, since we can all see how plausible that would be... 🤦

As soon as China attacks Taiwan the U.S. is going to have it's hands full elsewhere which will be a huge factor in the Ukrainian war.

The U.S. resources will be going elsewhere which will leave Europe fighting their own war all by themselves.

The Minsk Agreements are exactly the type of talentless and feckless leadership I've been talking about. It was window dressing--it was let's draw up some agreements for the sake of saying we drew up some agreements. That was never going to settle anything, because the basic premise of those agreements was based on a point of contention: Russia had to withdrawal its military presence, Russia denied it ever had a military presence. It was complete half-assed diplomacy. So, I don't think they are an analogy to a reasonable path to peace.


What do you mean by demilitarization?

What does Russian defeat look like? Ukraine sure as hell can't defeat them without major Western aid--how far should the West go? Is there a limit?


Ah-ha, that makes a ton of sense.


Once you suffer sustained economic hardship and pain, get back with us with you being in.

The Minsk agreements bought Ukraine valuable time when no Western country was actually willing to send significant military aid. As flawed as it was, it was preferable to letting Russia overrun Ukraine (remember, the Ukrainian army fought with outdated Soviet tactics and suffered defeat after defeat, a far cry from its' brilliant flexible defense in 2022).

Signing the agreement and stopping the Russian advance was probably Putin's biggest strategic mistake. In hindsight the conditions for a Russian victory were much more favourable in 2014/15 than in 2022.

Oil prices.... as Galeev has pointed out the independent variable of russian foreign policy is the price of oil. When it's high russia is aggressive and expansive and when it's low it's.... less so. putain wanted to continue in 2104-15 but oil prices prevented it.

@Tacitus

You're making my point, Tac. The Minsk thingy had no real strength and settled nothing. It was simply ink on paper.

I don't know if it was a strategic mistake or not for Putin.

Minsk was an attempt to formalize the idea that russia had a right to interfere in Ukraine... of course it failed.


that would be me!


There's no contradiction if you slightly reformulate it

1. russia's military is an effing disaster (thankfully, as it turns out)

2. russia absolutely wants to dominate as much land as it can

It can't succeed, but it can ruin a lot of things while it fails.... it will not take over Ukraine but it will kill probably 100s of thousands of Ukrainians as it fails.

It can't rebuild the USSR (a frequently repeated goal in russian media) but it can destabilize and impoverish many countries as it fails.

russia is like a drunk driver going on the interstate so that he can break the speed of sound.... of course he'll fail and a lot of innocent people will be hurt in the attempt

There is no contradiction.

So it was never about finding a realistic solution to stabilize the Ukrainian problem.

What superpower are you talking about ?

The US or China ?

There aren"t any others

Unless you are talking about superpowers in the tinned fish business or the amateur **** industry

And now Musk will continue to pay for Starlink after NASA made some deals. Nothing to see, move along, just business being done.

No the only solution acceptable to putain is the complete destruction of Ukraine as a country and ethnicity - ethnocide.

Of course, delusional (or cynical.... which would be worse) politicians from other countries either didn't realize this or pretended to not realize this....

When did he say that? Can you quote him?