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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



PolAmKrakow
25 Aug 2022  #1621

@Bobko
Even if people in Ukraine are getting tired of Z, and I believe some probably are, he is still better than Putin. Russia is a dumpster fire of a country. I mean that without trying to point out anything more than the country really is just a Fing wasteland for most people. You very well may be a decent guy to have a beer with, but would I give up Poland or the USA for Russian rule? No Fing way. I wouldnt even give up Ukraine for Russian rulers, and honestly most of Ukraine is pretty Fing poor and $hitty. But it is still better than Russia.

If you can not understand that people like their lives better without Russia, then you simply dont understand. I have never, and there has never been a mass emigration to Russia from anywhere in the western or modern world. No one wants anything to do with Russia let alone live like Russians. Thats all anyone needs to know and it is the only reason anyone needs to fight Russia at every turn.

Crow
25 Aug 2022  #1622

I don't care! I mean I changed my mind. I used to think it is not fair on Serbians but right know I think

see? Now you understand why Vatican committed genocide on 1 mil. Serbs. I wanted you to understand.

pawian
25 Aug 2022  #1623

you lost most of Ukraine/Ukrainians forever.

They won`t conquer whole Ukraine and they will lose the occupied territories, too. Each day the war continues RuSSia is getting weaker and weaker. Good!!

mafketis
25 Aug 2022  #1624

When a Russian gets cancer, and can't receive oncological treatment

what? you're saying the could receive it before (withou bribing half a dozen people)?

Cojestdocholery
25 Aug 2022  #1625

why Vatican committed genocide on 1 mil. Serbs.

Call your nurse.

RuSSia is getting weaker and weaker. Good!!

I don't think you check it out with your German masters.

pawian
25 Aug 2022  #1626

I don't think you check it out

Darling, it is your favourite nationalist party which supports Putin and RuSSists the most in Poland. Shall I again post their dirty statements and acts?

jon357
25 Aug 2022  #1627

The media are reporting that 'French owned' Total are supplying aviation fuel to the r*SSian military.

I'm not sure how accurate that is. As far as I can see, the French government reduced their stake in Total to below 1% a few years ago, and the majority shareholder seems to be a company with a complex ownership structure registered in Delaware called Sunoco. That company has its roots in Pittsburgh and is American. Oxy (also American) have a stake and so does a Japanese company. It does seem complicated however they have many French institutional shareholders.

They are based in France. Aren't there sanctions against r*SSia?

globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/stop-russian-oil/total-russian-jet-fuel/

mafketis
25 Aug 2022  #1628

russians wrote almost 145,000 denunciations over 'war fakes' in the first 6 months of 2022... a 25% increase over last year...

a "culture" of snitching on people to the government... nasty and vile....

theins.ru/en/news/254408

Crow
25 Aug 2022  #1629

War flame spread from Ukraine

Few facts

NATO and Albanian (Shiftar) forces prepare for attack on local Serbs and respond of Serbian army.

To remind, local Kosovo Serbs refuse to be part of Albanian Kosovo, while by Serbian constitution (and UN and most of the world), Kosovo stays as part of Serbia.

Army of state of Albania entered Kosovo.

NATO sending more troops and aviation.

Serbian army concentrate along the administrative border with our province.

20 Russian warships of Mediterranean fleet entered Strait of Otranto and moved deeper onto Adriatic sea.

For now, Polish, Hungarian, Slovak, Czech and Irish troops in the region aren`t involved in actions that could be considered hostile either on Kosovo Serbs or Serbia.

> youtube.com/watch?v=1L9PwPLN4Ng&t=35s

> youtube.com/watch?v=qmvlgiL9tIE

mafketis
25 Aug 2022  #1630

NATO and Albanian (Shiftar) forces prepare for attack on local Serbs

Good! Great news!

NATO sending more troops and aviation.

Yahoooooo!!!! party time!

PolAmKrakow
25 Aug 2022  #1631

@Crow
So the dumba$$ Serbs want to get pounded again. Ok. And say good bye to EU membership, your growing economy and just about everything else decent. F it, dont let the door hit in the a$$ on the way out.

Crow
25 Aug 2022  #1632

oH

Auf Wiedersehen Ukraine, we have our own problems

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock is not sure if it is possible for Ukraine to win this war.


Bratwurst Boy
25 Aug 2022  #1633

Auf Wiedersehen Ukraine, we have our own problems

Na ja...not really....more like: "Jetzt erst recht!"

...

In the ZDF "Heute Journal" on Wednesday evening, Federal Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock was asked whether Ukraine could win the war against Russia. The Green politician answered Marietta Slomka immediately and bluntly.

The Foreign Minister said: "We don't know. Reality is that brutal. But we will do everything to ensure that this possibility exists and will therefore continue to support Ukraine in solidarity."

Baerbock also made it clear that she sees no point in possible talks with the Russian government about ending the Ukraine war in the current situation. The foreign minister declared that Moscow was not even willing to "really extensively negotiate humanitarian corridors." ...


A refreshing honesty:

....Baerbock: "Of course a lot of porcelain is smashed"

In the ZDF interview, Baerbock admitted that a lot of things about the Ukraine conflict in the relationship between Germany and Eastern European partner countries did not go well: "Of course, a lot of china was smashed. But that doesn't apply to the last few months, but to the last few years. And that's where we said we need a different Europe policy, a different Eastern Europe policy. Because we, as the Federal Republic of Germany, did not listen to the concerns of our Baltic neighbors and friends when we stuck to Nord Stream 2." ...


focus.de/politik/ausland/so-brutal-ist-die-realitaet-baerbock-nicht-sicher-ob-die-ukraine-gewinnen-kann_id_137142316.html

...no more "Wandel durch Handel"! That's the end.

johnny reb
25 Aug 2022  #1634

Ukraine Parliament votes to give themselves a 70% raise thanks to the U.S. taxpayers.
Send them more biden, you idiot.
Why doesn't the U.S. taxpayers get to vote on this since it is their money, not bidens.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Aug 2022  #1635

Ukraine Parliament votes to give themselves a 70% raise thanks to the U.S. taxpayers.

...well....that has to do with the fall of the ukrainian currency...the raise is more or less about letting them have enough monies to buy food and such..

....Since July 15, the hryvnia fell from 0.33 euros to 0.026 euros per hryvnia. This currently corresponds to around 1,300 euros. According to Overton Magazine, it was officially emphasized that "no additional funds from the state budget or funds from international partners are used for this".....

Seriously.....1300 Euros are a joke for the common western politician....

Crow
25 Aug 2022  #1636

Why doesn't the U.S. taxpayers get to vote on this since it is their money, not bidens.

Its actually money of the world, printed lavishly in States.

Sure, its also money of the western Europe, that is redirected to the States.

Finally, its also money of US taxpayers.

Biden only looks like complete moron.

Greta in the background and wars in the world.

Dollar is now stronger then Eur. USA economy enters era of new industrialization. Will need time but, will be better. Biden done almost all what Trump promised.

Crow
25 Aug 2022  #1637

Russia starts to reveal fraction of its immense power

> youtube.com/watch?v=LrhoIpUwWiA

> youtube.com/watch?v=ztF7CbgIfYM

Malka

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It is true. Russia has strongest military technology in the world.

cms neuf
25 Aug 2022  #1638

Yes, just those air defenses need a bit of improvement

Crow I do hope your Serbian leaders have not been spending all your taxes on this rusty Russian junk because if it ever comes to war with Albania or Hungary they will wipe the floor with you

Cojestdocholery
26 Aug 2022  #1639

Russia has strongest military technology in the world.

Why it looks like painted old Soviet technology> ?

mafketis
26 Aug 2022  #1640

Russia has strongest military technology in the world

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

twitter.com/JSukraine2022/status/1562874902981382144

Crnogorac3
26 Aug 2022  #1641

They killed another American in Donbass.

t.me/intelslava/36008

And instead of fighting for Tennessee's freedom from the pederoliberal yoke, you're dying to push someone else into that globohomo yoke. And how can one feel sorry for you, the late Mr. Joshua. I ask myself.

Crnogorac3
26 Aug 2022  #1642

He left already yet the golabki he hasn't even tried. Tough luck Mr. Joshua.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Aug 2022  #1643

Isn't Dugina dead after all? Bizarre theories about the attack are circulating on the Internet

berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/ist-dugina-doch-nicht-tot-im-internet-kursieren-bizarre-theorien-zum-anschlag-li.259509

The Russian secret service FSB says the daughter of legal ideologist Alexander Dugin was killed by a Ukrainian car bomb - the funeral service raises doubts.

Oha!

...A funeral service for Dugina on Tuesday did little to dispel doubts about the FSB statement. Pictures from the ceremony showed a body in an open coffin. However, many social media users noticed that there were no injuries or burn marks on Dugina's face - despite an explosion that ripped the roof off her car while the car was engulfed in flames.

"I have to say I'm totally confused," Anton Shekhovtsov, a Ukrainian academic and expert on the far-right scene in Europe, tweeted at the pictures. "This is what Darya Dugina looks like after she was allegedly killed in that car. Somehow I have the feeling that something is wrong here."


....and then there is that:

....On Monday, the FSB, the Russian secret service, announced that it had "solved" Dugina's murder: the perpetrator is said to be a Ukrainian woman named Natalia Vowk, who is said to have rented an apartment in the same house as Dugina in Moscow in order to track her and prepare for the assassination. According to the FSB, on Saturday Wowk followed Dugina to the "Tradition" festival - and while Dugina was attending the festival with her father, Wowk is said to have planted the bomb in her car. After the crime, Wowk is said to have fled to Estonia in a Mini Cooper with her 12-year-old daughter in tow.

The FSB wants to prove this sequence of events with surveillance images from various gas stations in Russia, where Wowk allegedly stopped to change the number plates on her car. They also presented the military ID card of an alleged soldier from the Azov regiment named Natalia Schaban (Wowk's married name). It is said to belong to military unit 3057 of the National Guard of Ukraine, which also includes the Azov regiment.

Moscow presents the "assassin's" identity card - but is it a fake?

At a press conference on Monday, an Azov spokesman called the whole thing a "funny fake". The woman on the ID card is not wearing the camouflage uniform of the Azov regiment - quite apart from the fact that there are no female fighters in the regiment. ....


🤔

mafketis
26 Aug 2022  #1644

Well... it took long enough but it seems the russian government has realized that zeroing-out the future of tens of thousands of young men (who'll never get jobs or get married due to death or injury) and driving out many young people with brains and initiative is not a good idea for a country that already had serious demographic problems...

So now they want to lure.... immigrants (ha ha ha ha) to russia by selling it as a conservative christian country (they do seem to have a sense of humor at any rate) and lure back both russian speaking descendents of internal soviet migrants (sent to various republics to undermine the traditional majority populations there)...

When will Bobko heed the call?

thedailybeast.com/kremlin-backed-media-makes-desperate-push-for-more-immigrants-to-russia?ref=scroll

but is it a fake?

honestly..... germans are too naive for their own good sometimes.....

Cojestdocholery
26 Aug 2022  #1645

e a Ukrainian woman named Natalia Vowk,

She is a real James Bond. Carring explosivies in her vagina and tracked Dugin girl with ease, planted the bomb on her car, made it boom and then she crossed border in the flash. All by her lonesome.

Wow! Better than in the movie.
I have a question for Russian security forces - are you telling evryone that you suck at your job big time?
Are telling lies to use it as a pretext to pressure Baltic states?

Crow
26 Aug 2022  #1646

He left already yet the golabki he hasn't even tried. Tough luck Mr. Joshua.

Good fertilizer.

Why it looks like painted old Soviet technology> ?

Malka is modernized vehicle from the Soviet era. Google that

jon357
26 Aug 2022  #1647

It is true. Russia has strongest military technology in the world

Or or would if they had a time machine. Right now, they haven't even got the strongest military technology in Ukraine.

When will Bobko heed the call?

He's probably rushing to the airport now to sign up as a private in a tank regiment.

I'd give him a week however they aren't actually advancing and don't have many tanks left. He could always volunteer for duty shovelling spent fuel rods at the Zaporizhia power station. Probably quite warm there at this time of year.

mafketis
26 Aug 2022  #1648

Open you eyes and mind

open your own mind, fossil....

One of the reasons that Ukraine is still standing tall is that the leadership has changed generations while russia is still ruled by cold war fossils who haven't had a new and novel thought in decades (and who have never had an honest thought).

old and busted - russia

new and fresh - Ukraine

old and busted - srrrbija

new and fresh - Poland!

pawian
26 Aug 2022  #1649

new and fresh - Ukraine
new and fresh - Poland!

Long live Polish Ukrainian friendship! Down with Mongols, orcs, RuSSists, Putlerites etc

johnny reb
26 Aug 2022  #1650

Does anyone have an exit plan for this dumb ass war ?
Once the West quits contributing to it, and they will eventually say enough is enough, then what ?


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