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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



pawian
3 Sep 2022  #2041

if the bridge to Crimea from Russia just disappeared.

Which is becoming more and more likely coz Ukrainians have just started using their planes more boldly after RuSSian air defences are being annihilated with American HARM missiles, adapted to be fired from ex Soviet MIG-29 fighters. Amasing!

The bridge can be successfully taken out only by Ukrainian aviation right now - shelling it with HIMARS might be useless.

No matter how much Poland contributes to Ukraine war aid, the country will not receive any European Union recovery funds

That`s a result of PiS gangsters` psycho blackmail on the EU - give us the recovery funds coz we are giving a hand to Ukraine. Of course not. No funds for corrupt PiS govt which messes with democratic principles and rule of law all the time.

They are doing it because it's right to do so.

Coz we feel it is the duty of every decent person to aid Ukraine.

PolAmKrakow
3 Sep 2022  #2042

Meanwhile, Russia has recruited more than 1000 inmates from penal colonies to go fight in Ukraine. At the rate that Ukraine is liquidating the Orc's that is about a weeks worth of cannon fodder.

Putin has shut off the gas to Europe now that nearly everyone has filled their reserves. Using more lies as an excuse to do so. And my family has gone out and bought a lot of extra blankets, and pajamas that are nice and warm. Harder to get cool in hot weather than it is to get warm in cold weather. Panic is for nothing. I can not wait until both Nordstream lines are completely ripped out and destroyed. F Russia and their gas.

Meanwhile, gas for our cars continues to fall in price, more than 10% in the last month, and with a new price cap on Russian oil, it will fall further. Happy gulag biatches!

amiga500
3 Sep 2022  #2043

Putin has shut off the gas to Europe now that nearly everyone has filled their reserves

Sure Poland and Spain will be fine, thanks to their future LNG and Denmark/Norway pipeline proofing. But unf Germany and Austria perhaps not. Or if not this one, the coming winter will be a *****. And that's not even factoring into the equation the millions more refugees from Ukraine that will flee west cause of no heating in winter.

Poland still hasn't got a cent for Ukrainian refugees from the EU, whilst they gave Edrogan billions from stopping the migrant flow.
Above all nations, we are spending 1 percent of our GDP in Ukri refugee assistance. In fact the german puppet EU Commission are denying us EU stimulus funds, hundreds of billions, due to some spurious 'rule of law' bs, and fining us daily out of those same unreceived funds.

How about some solidarity in times of war? It might look all cosy right now., but trust me, things are about to kick off. In times of war you do not mess with polaks like that.

With the pro russian far right getting elected in italy in Sept, things are going to be quite chaotic in the dysfunctional EU tinderbox by 2023.

No funds for corrupt PiS govt

In times of war we come together as polish no matter our political diffrences and demand what is ours to feed the ukranian refugees and built a stronger nation, oh wait apart from german bootlickers and traitors like yourself. Just like ww2 and times of partition there will always be traitors that sell us out. I spit on your goat! pfft!

Korvinus
3 Sep 2022  #2044

How did it go in 1945? Not too well...

In 1939 they have Germs to help them. On their own, Ruskies would have their asses handed to them. Again.

Exhausted from a World War, a Civil War, and having put down an insurgency in Ukraine

And we just regained our country after 123 years.

PolAmKrakow
3 Sep 2022  #2045

@amiga500
Could not agree more. Actually heading to Italy tomorrow and interested to get a first hand experience of the political climate there. Between the far right and the Pope, Rome will be enlightening as they say.

Korvinus
3 Sep 2022  #2046

uSSian propaganda is saying about Poland and what brainwashed RuSSians are saying

By the way, it's funny how according to Russia, the US magically brainwashed Ukraine into rebelling, but Russia can't do the same. Why is that, vatniks? Why does Russia have to spend Russian lives to take a countries, but the US just snaps their fingers and overthrows them?

jon357
3 Sep 2022  #2047

Above all nations, we are spending 1 percent of our GDP in Ukri refugee assistanc

What is 1% of Australia's GDP?

some spurious 'rule of law' bs

The rule of law is never 'spurious'. Except perhaps in r*SSia.

pawian
3 Sep 2022  #2048

How about some solidarity in times of war?

Fekk solidarity with corrupt PiS govt! Cut the funds now and give them to the next govt! We are still a democracy which PiS is trying to abolish. War in Ukraine doesn`t excuse those gangsters.

I spit on your goat! pfft!

Leave that poor creature in peace! It isn`t guilty of this human made mess.

Paulina
3 Sep 2022  #2049

How about some solidarity in times of war?

Yeah, how about PiS showing solidarity with Poland and Polish people, and not with their own party? They could use some brains to realise what the priorities are right now - they should stop messing with democracy and the rule of law in Poland and focus on more important problems. We need money now, so they should hide their overblown egos and the hunger for authoritarian power into their pockets at such difficult times. But it looks like that for those morons their egos, arrogance and their party's interests are more important than the good of Poland. And of course ordinary people will be paying for this and not politicians.

In times of war we come together as polish no matter our political diffrences and demand what is ours to feed the ukranian refugees

To be honest, I have no confidence how much of that money would actually go to Ukrainian refugees. Whatever money PiS will be getting - the EU should be watching their hands closely these days.

pawian
3 Sep 2022  #2050

And of course ordinary people will be paying for this

If Poland loses those funds irrevocably, PiS will be prosecuted for leading to that situation.

PolAmKrakow
3 Sep 2022  #2051

@pawian
PiS is about to lose those funds as they dwindle by the day. Lets be honest here, there are only two people who are messing this up JK and Ziobro. That money was not going to Ukraine refugees though. All that money is earmarked for projects and debt accumulated during pandemic.

Novichok
3 Sep 2022  #2052

Memo to Russia haters: You may not like them but that's no reason to claim that they are primitive Mongols and barbarians. Here is why...

There is an unwritten rule among military leaders to never, ever diminish and insult the enemy. US generals were very respectful of the German army and, most likely, vice versa.

They would pump up their own guys and try to demoralize the enemy but never claim that the enemy is weak and stupid and that what's ahead will be a walk in the park.

Do you know why? They did all that because often the enemy would kick their guys' asses and that would feel really sh*tty and explaining what just happened would be even harder.

So knock that Mongol and other crap out for your own good. Russians don't give a fu*ck what you call them. Trust me.

Tacitus
3 Sep 2022  #2053

Calling them Mongols would give them too much credit. The Mongols were nearly peerless conquerors and almost undefeatable in battle. Russia has so far conquered some slivers of depopulated and destroyed land and already suffered a humiliating defeat at Kiev and Charkiv.

Respect has to be earned and the Russian military has achieved nothing so far that deserves respect.

Novichok
4 Sep 2022  #2054

Respect has to be earned and the Russian military has achieved nothing

...except win WW2 and lose millions in the process. That Soviet flag in Berlin looked awesome, didn't it...

Tacitus
4 Sep 2022  #2055

The only thing the Russian military of today has in common with the Red Army is that its' combat doctrine has barely evolved since then. People don't fear the Italian army because of Julius Caesar either.

Why should they be respected or feared when their performance in Ukraine warrants neither? If anything this war has shown that people had far too much respect for them.

cms neuf
4 Sep 2022  #2056

But Russia isn't kicking anyone's ass. And they won't. I don't call them Mongols, because I respect the Mongolians.

I do call them barbarians because they behave like that. They rape, steal and murder. They are an indisciplined rabble with poor officers, outdated weapons and horrible food. The rest of the world has nothing to fear

Novichok
4 Sep 2022  #2057

Quoting RT, the best news org anywhere...

The UN is appreciates Russia's efforts to safeguard the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) team that came to inspect the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, on Thursday.

That was RT. Now what RT quotes:

"We are glad that the Russian Federation did what it needed to do to keep our inspectors safe," Stephane Dujarric told reporters at a briefing in New York, when asked about Moscow's comments.

Novichok
4 Sep 2022  #2058

From yahoo:

FRANKFURT/GDANSK (Reuters) - Russia has scrapped a Saturday deadline to resume flows via a major gas supply route to Germany, deepening Europe's difficulties in securing winter fuel, after saying it had found faults in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline during maintenance.

Moscow has blamed sanctions, imposed by the West after Russia invaded Ukraine, for hampering routine operations and maintenance of Nord Stream 1. Brussels says this is a pretext and Russia is using gas as an economic weapon to retaliate.

As we say so eloquently in America...No sh*it!

Whatever...Remove sanctions, get gas... or double up in beds. No hanky panky, please. Simple.

PolAmKrakow
4 Sep 2022  #2059

@Novichok
Double standard when using WW2 victories for Russia and pointing out US failures after WW2. The US flag has looked great on many locations hasn't it? But, you do make the most obvious point of "No sh*it". As if the whole EU should have expected this?

What I am tired of with the EU and US concerning Russia is the complaint of Russia weaponizing LNG. If it is fair for us to weaponize money, banking, and other financial mediums in the combat of this war, we should have expected Putin to weaponize LNG. Did the EU and US think there would be no retaliation to sanctions?

That said, I still think the rest of the EU should roll into Ukraine and end this thing. If Putin knows all he can expect is sanctions, Moldova is definitely next. He's got a million men in his army still and Moldova would crumple up like toilet paper.

Crnogorac3
4 Sep 2022  #2060

Prague - 70,000 to 100,000 people take to the streets demanding the resignation of the Czech government demanding neutrality and cheap Russian gas & to end alignment with NATO & EU policy.

t.me/asbmil/4700

Farmers, truckers, bikers and citizens united to protest against the increase in energy bills: "Tolerance limit has been exceeded. Now that's enough!" Germany, Brettorf.

twitter.com/RadioGenova/status/1566046540334043136

Europeans seeing Russian gas in winter. 🇷🇺❤️😂

twitter.com/Zzzaikar/status/1565950272656052225

pawian
4 Sep 2022  #2061

Prague - 70,000 to 100,000 people

Nothing strange, really. Communists were always strong in Czechia - even after Velvet Revolution they regularly got 10% support in elections, as a true communist party, not repainted as social democrats. Czechs got used to that aberration.

So, I wouldn`t bother about them.

Crnogorac3
4 Sep 2022  #2062

olaf

Olaf Scholz

NS-2 = sanctions

NS-1 = repairs

Nickidewbear
4 Sep 2022  #2063

@pawian

Nothing strange, really. Communists were always strong in Czechia....

Communists are the same way in the U.S.-some openly so-and it angers me, especially because one side of the family in Orlinek wrote to family in the U.S. describing how they had to survive the Germans and the Russians.

pawian
4 Sep 2022  #2064

NS-1 = repairs

But you know Europe has other sources while RuSSia hasn`t got other clients??? hahahaha RuSSists are shooting themselves in the knees and heads with those fake repairs.

I must say I am really glad they are doing it. The sooner we cut off the RuSSist import of ANYTHING, the better for Ukraine and us.

PolAmKrakow
4 Sep 2022  #2065

@pawian
This is a good argument. I agree all of Europe needs to be off Russian energy. But it should not be framed as Russia weaponizing energy. It is really a dishonest argument. I blame the US for starting that discussion though, not EU.

pawian
4 Sep 2022  #2066

While in Ukraine, the RuSSist occupiers scored an amaSSing succeSS - their rockets hit a wooden restaurant complex in Charkiv and caused a huge fire. Fekking Mongol barbarians.


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Crnogorac3
4 Sep 2022  #2067

But you know Europe has other sources while RuSSia hasn`t got other clients???

LOL

The world's largest buyers of oil and energy products are generally China and India. Western Europe is a dwarf compared to these two mastodons.

RuSSists are shooting themselves in the knees and heads with those fake repairs.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1565760414205546502

The oil is leaking.

leak

Someone spilled coffee and took a picture. 😁

What a joke, hahaha

Oh well, the oil leaked. It all has to stop now to be cleaned up. One month break.

😏

pawian
4 Sep 2022  #2068

Western Europe is a dwarf compared to these two mastodons.

Why are you lying?? You don`t have clients for fossils which you supplied to Europe. Check the economic data on your export to China and India today and previous export to Europe.

You are an amaSSing liar against obvious facts.:):):)

What a joke, hahaha

Yes, that will be a joke when RuSSists beg Europe one day to buy their fossils. hahahahahaha

One month break.

I just said it is excellent news. :):):) Recall the oil crisis of 1970s - after the initial shock, the West got a grip and dealt with it. If you RuSSists think we won`t now, you are really dumb. Ha!

mafketis
4 Sep 2022  #2069

Galeev made a good point recently (in the wake of Gorbachevo's death)

The simplest metric for russian policy (especially foreign policy) is oil prices...

when oil prices are high - russia is expansionist and aggressive,

when prices are low - russia is.... less aggressive

perestroika didn't happpen because Gorbachev was a nice guy (he wasn't) but oil prices tanked and his previous Stalinesque policies were not viable.

putain fans don't understand why he dind't go for all of his fake and ghey 'novorossija' project in 2014 - the answer was oil prices, they tanked and he stopped...

oil prices are currently high... lower them and russia will sort of behave...

pawian
4 Sep 2022  #2070

US generals were very respectful.

It is nice of you that you compare us to generals here. hahahaha
However, you should also tell us sth about common soldiers, then. Have you watched any episode of Band of Brothers or another one, the Pacific? Watch and tell us what common soldiers thought and said about their enemies. :):):):)

but never claim that the enemy is weak and stupid

You are imagining things now. :):):)
It really looks like you are catching at a razor with this bs. :):):)


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