Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

A lovely video (much better quality than most similar ones) showing two orc tanks being turned to scrap metal with lumps of charred flesh in by Brimstone missiles.

The video's ok; it's filmed from a distance so no orc meat visible.

forces.net/ukraine/british-brimstone-missiles-appear-destroy-russian-tanks

@jon357

Great video of British weapons being put to good use against Russian imbeciles.
Let's just remind people, that after The USA , the UK is the biggest supplier of arms to Ukraine.
This tiny island can still kick butt!

What ?
Are you saying that Britain is kicking Russia's butt ?
Amassing how tuff some people get with a couple of cocktails under their belt.
The question now is, "why did Russia fire a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead into Ukraine" ?
Kyivan air defense forces shot down two Russian cruise missiles over the skies of Ukraine on November 17th and at least one of those missiles may have been capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

@johnny reb
The answer is simple. Russia is running out of missiles. They have used close to 5000 missiles since the start of the war. With no capacity to produce more, or very limited capacity, they have no choice but to repurpose some stock. Repurposing is taking place with Russian tanks and other equipment ever day. They are turning all kinds of Russian equipment into planters, crematory's, and easy bake Orc ovens. It all began on the Black Sea and the new artificial reef called the Moscow.

The Orc's have continued to target civilian infrastructure, and Ukraine continues to move forward. Ukraine is not only moving forward, but repairs are being made and the Orc missiles will not be able to keep up with repairs in most cases. While Kherson will become all but a ghost town, the rest of Ukraine will find ways to get through winter. Russia continues to miscalculate how they can succeed, because the opportunity for that has passed. Is anyone brave enough to put a bullet in little Vlad's head?

When you think russians can't sink any lower.... they manage to.....

According to generalsvr (which has a pretty good track record) putain is continuing to go all in and double down on his failed war....

The newest plan is full mobilization of up to 2,000,000 including 300,000 women (presumably in non-combat roles but... who knows?)

This is set to co-occur with martial law after the new year.

This is also part of his "people's war" concept - forcing russians to invest more in victory (or setting things up to blame the people if he fails)

money quote: "A large number of victims among those mobilized, according to the President, will only rally #Russian society and strengthen the current regime."

read the whole thing:

twitter.com/generalsvr_en/status/1594974705039056898

His days are numbered, and he knows it.
With the NATO build up on Ukraine's borders in defensive moves tells me something is coming down.
Germany will send Patriot missiles and fighter jets to Poland as part of an air-defense deal following a strike that raised fears of a significant escalation between NATO allies and Russia.

I wonder how safe Poland is feeling if NATO gets involved in a direct conflict.

@mafketis
Interesting you bring up mobilization here. Putin just yesterday denied plans to mobilize again. Just another lie in his web of lies. I am sure women will be in combat groups. Ukraine women are in combat groups. Russia will empty the womens prisons like they tried to get men. More cannon fodder.

Interesting read for sure. If he declares marshal law, people are going to know that it is a very bad situation and that they are being lied to. Only losers have to declare marshal law. People who are easily in control never have to try to lock it down.

generalsvr pointed out that public declarations like that are meant to soothe the public but have no connection to reality... it hasn't stopped or even slowed down and will only grow

It is time to send long range missiles to the Ukrainians so they can hit military targets in Russia

Yes. They're one of the better sources.


It's pretty well all he can do; he's in too deep to back down at the moment. In this chess game however, the west are several moves ahead.


This is nothing new. Many missile systems are capable of carrying different payloads.

Until the US announces that it would not mind if Mexico formed a military alliance with China or Russia, Russia has nothing to apologize for regardless of how many Ukrainian babies are found dead and turned into fertilizer or dog food.

@Novichok
And once again this is where your arguments have no merit. No one wants to partner with Russia other than turd world countries. Not even Mexico wants to partner with Russia. But the vacation property in Crimea is now on sale so maybe these new Irani buddies will buy it all up for all the Russian hoe's they will find in Moscow. A free market pu$$y economy is still working well in your beloved Russia. Meanwhile, Orc's are dying by the hundreds each day needlessly in a war Russia has already lost.

There's your problem. The US is superior to russia. russia is inferior. Since russia is inferior it can't do things that superior countries can.

As a supposed US citizen you should be happy about that....

There's still 80 000 people left in that city, some are even coming back. A lot of them don't want to evacuate from Kherson...

This video of a boy in Kherson, a four-year-old Anton became viral:

twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1594797307169480710?s=20&t=_BoTZAeYWuHCeSzZ1K-jNg

He walked up to Ukrainian soldiers and asked them if they threw away the jerks already :)


You're a sick psychopath.

That is the stupidest argument ever. "Wants" or not has nothing to do with principles and norms.
My point is about the US position and its attitude to any such eventuality - not all that improbable. Replace Mexico with Cuba, Nicaragua, or Venezuela. Would it be OK for them to be in a military alliance hostile to the US? Cuba tried once and the world stopped breathing for a while and not because the US said fine, no problem.

If you chose to respond, please do not include "democracy", "free", and other such meaningless crap in your post.


Yes, it can do what it can. So far it took 15% of Ukraine and made it its own. Go take it back instead of banging on your keyboard.

BTW, this little factoid for you to take notice of... It's 15% in square meters but 90% in GNP, wealth, natural resources, and things that really matter...hahahahahahahahaha...


When a debater drags "a boy" or "babies thrown out of incubators" as a substitute for the big picture the debate becomes a coffee break at an all-women tennis country club.

This isn't a debating club.

Ryszard of course is more of a mass debator.

The world stopped breathing because it was at the brink of a nuclear war, since the Soviet Union placed nuclear missiles in Cuba. So it wasn't about being in alliance, but about putting NUCLEAR WARHEADS at the US doorstep. This why it is called Cuban Missile Crisis and not Cuban-Soviet Alliance Crisis LOL


Innocent children, civillians are never a "substitute" for anything - they MATTER to normal people.

No, they don't or there would be no wars and abortions.


You mean like NATO at Russia's doorstep? Yes, I know, Russia is not allowed what the US is allowed. That "democracy" thing...

Like Kherson?


Very true. Why can't you accept that simple fact? You can't turn a kleptocratic garbage government into a superpower no matter how hard you wish or no matter how many Ukrainian children you want to kill.

I don't want to kill any children. Who was the idiot that called me "a surrender boy"?

BTW, how is that Z-P=0? Are you sure that Z-P was worth all of that destruction, deaths, dislocations - all for that world-class Ukrainian democracy?


K has been evacuated to allow Russia to flatten it. That was the objective. Not every town is worth defending "to the last man". Even Poles are not that stupid.

No, that's EXACTLY what I don't mean. Being in a military alliance is not the same as placing nuclear missiles at some country's doorstep lol Unlike communist Poland, Cuba didn't join any official military alliance with the Soviet Union, only economic ones. And it changed nothing - the Soviet Union still placed NUCLEAR WARHEADS in Cuba. Poland has been in an OFFICIAL MILITARY ALLIANCE - NATO - for 23 years already and still NO NUCLEAR WARHEADS IN POLAND, while RuSSia placed missiles in Kaliningrad that are capable of carrying NUCLEAR WARHEADS.


The fact that they don't matter to Putin, his psycho propagandists and you, doesn't mean they don't matter to other people.

@Novichok
Again your arguments have zero merit. Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua or any other turd world banana republic is happy to stick their middle finger up at the US, but not one of them has the balls to go toe to toe. Russia doesn't have the balls to go toe to toe. All your little anti-hero's are turd world dirt farmers. They are nobody's, and Russia is a nobody. The nukes are not a threat, and jungle armies are not a threat.

Being number one, like the US is, means you don't have to GAF about anyone else little feelings or opinions. It is why you went to the US. If your story is to be believed now. Fvck Russia and all of them, they can do nothing but lose one way or another. The only way the US falters is if nutcases like MGT and the extreme right retards get in control of the US. Otherwise, the world and the US will deal with these flare ups of little biatch dictators they way they need to be dealt with. Pound them into submission one way or another and then wait for them to be killed by their own people. A very successful formula.

Other people don't count until they put real money on the table. That was a metaphor so don't ask me how much.

What you wrote is what we call a difference without a distinction and is a great material for Civics 101 - K level.
But I will explain...The only thing that matters is the size of your fist, children. Being "right" is nice but not essential.

@Novichok, that's what other people are doing - they're putting real money on the table for Ukraine. Lots of people and quite a few countries.


In this world created by men - yes, unfortunately. This is why we're making sure that Ukrainian fist grows bigger and bigger.

OK, my explanation that it was a metaphor was too difficult to comprehend...
I meant until your ass is on the line. OK, until your life is on the line...
Got it? Your ten-dollar donation means nothing. I donated more through US taxes and against my will.

Theyre spending my hard earned tax dollars on sth the majority of Americans dont approve of at all. All that money should be spent at home fixing our many problems like homeless vets and repairing our economy. Not to give it away to foreign countries.

Its the EUs and NATOs backyard not ours. Have the EU finance Ukraine. The Europeans are like a bunch of cheap ass Jews.

Certainly better than russian authoritarianism as you yourself proved when you references a list that found russia far more corrupt than Ukraine.

Also I'll repost this thread by someone who took part in the Maidan protests which led to the revolution of dignity....

twitter.com/TheStanislawski/status/1594735328866230273

These are people that believe in western values - unlike putain and unlike many western governments. Anyone who cares about ideas like human dignity should be on Ukraine's side.

Then this is your bullsh1t. Not everyone is fit to be a soldier and people and countries can help in all kinds of ways - by sending money, weapons, providing training, sending food and other needed stuff or evacuating and taking in refugees. All of this is making a difference for Ukraine and Ukrainians - you would know that if you bothered to ask them.


Sorry, Joker, but the US is in NATO lol and it was the US that signed the Budapest Memorandum, not Poland, not the EU and not even NATO. So, next time don't talk other countries into giving up their nukes and don't give them empty security assurances in return. Lesson learned?


Not only yours - the US isn't the only country helping Ukraine. And if you don't want to help other countries then don't give them security assurances and don't mess with their national security. Now it's too late and we're all paying for other people's mistakes, not only you. Ukrainians are paying the biggest price - in lives.

Vovan and lexus did it again this time to Duda (second time),
youtube.com/watch?v=6xnFebPVzVI

These ruskis are a character:))

@Joker
How fvcking stupid are you? Without the EU the US is in deep economic sh1t. Without the EU, who TF does the US have to promote its democratic agenda? Taxes? Really? You think this drop in the bucket of the US budget is going to touch you taxes? If so you are a fvcking moron. The gazillion dollar debt if what the US should be concerned about and this war is nothing but a pimple on the ass of that debt.

All the bull$hit US patriotism here is laughable. People more concerned about Trump than the entire US survival and Democracy suvival makes me sick. Pseudo intellectual discussion more closely related to dumbass hicks sipping moonshine by the campfire complaining about why they cant burn more coal. Either you are for democracy or not, and if not get TF out.