Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

You are an American exceptionalist in that anything the US does is automatically moral to you and therefore other countries can and should do the same...

My father is on one of those trucks. I am worried but also very proud of him.

Russia does not want Ukraine just as it does not want the Baltics.
Russia wants Ukraine to be neutral and NATO-free. Russia said it 763 times.
Only a Polish moron would use the word "exterminate" to describe Russia's plans since none of this happened to the Crimean Uk minority but the desire to show equivalency with Hitler and Nazis is irresistible to a Polish Russian-hating moron.

Debating Poles is an exercise in frustration and they know it. No, I never said that what the US does is always moral.

Wow!


BS.


Double bs.

Are you going to bs like that all Saturday evening??? :)):

The same Baltic states that they tried to stop declaring independence?


Good for him! you are right to be proud.

then why don't any russian born analysts pay any attention to that angle?

Russia also said it wants to annex large parts of Ukraine.

russia also said that Ukraine is a fake country that shouldn't exist.... but American exceptionalists who have to stick the US into the middle of every international issue stop once they find some kind of US connection.... sad how dumb some people are.

RuSSists even suggested they would partition Ukraine with Polish participation. Fekking Mongols.

Just as any country is free to apply to join NATO, the Russians in Ukraine were free to apply to join the Russian Federation. It's called self-determination and does not require the approval of the central government that oppresses those who want independence. If it did, self-determination would rarely be possible.

Annexation (Latin ad, to, and nexus, joining), in international law, is the forcible acquisition of one state's territory by another state, usually following the military occupation of the territory.

If force were used in the annexation of Crimea, there would be casualties on both sides. There were none. The same with the referenda in Donbas and other territories. There were no casualties connected to voting.

Not really. Most people in all regions except Crimea voted for the independence of Ukraine in 1991 referendum when the USSR collapsed.
Later, it was RuSSia which started stirring up the situation in Eastern Ukraine - the Kremlin needed a pretext for an invasion and annexation.

There was but news was largely suppressed (or outshouted by RT and the like).

Stories will come out....

And again, it is something from universe, where regin of Tsar Nikolai III was observed. In our universe, referendum that taken place 17 Mar 1991 had different outcome.

It was invalidated by a later referendum in which most Ukrainians in all regions except Crimea voted for independent Ukraine in December 1991. The legal effect of that event is still in force. That is why Ukrainians have the full right to regain all their territories occupied by RuSSians except Crimea.

Have you (personally) read the text "Appeal of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of Ukraine to the People of the Ukrainian SSR" on the eve of the referendum (December 1, 1991) in Ukraine and exact text of referendum question to understand ABOUT WAT people voted in this referendum?

Maybe then some sort of enlightment will come about why Donbass uprise so fiercely in 2014...

PS: If decision of Referendum is so easy to invalidate, how easy will be to invalidate, for example, Lithuanian Declaration of independence, signed by just a bunch of people in fact. ;)

When? In eight years, not one person showed up on American TV and said let me tell you about the terror and the executions of the no voters in Crimea.

Now, children, we will discuss the meaning and the proper use of the word "irony" and its derivatives.

It is ironic that the bad and evil USSR simply let those republics that wanted to go go. Just like that, with all the power of the Soviet army and the very mean KGB still around.

Ukraine was one of those republics that benefitted from the hands-off Kremlin nasties.

Now, years later, the same process of letting go is bad. Veeeery baaaad and those who want to be free from the oppressive central government are called "separatists". Not freedom fighters. Oh, no. It's "separatists". I don't have to tell you, dear children, that "separatists" are very bad people in the minds of the Uk central government and their bosses in DC.

So, irony, if you missed it so far, is that Ukraine is now very much against letting the unhappy Russians go their own way having done the same some three decades earlier.

Cookies are, as always, in the back of the room.

Yes, just like that. The Soviet Union was seriously weakened by the Cold War arms race, the society tired of shortages, the Red Army in disarray after the Afghan war they had lost.


Yes, they are agents instigated by RuSSists who provoked ferment and conflict in order to attack Ukraine.

The key word of all post.
What is good for DC bosses must be supported (till last Ukrainian, and then last Pole). What is bad for DC bosses must be suppressed (till last Ukrainian, and then last Pole).

Before that happens, RuSSists will be long gone from Ukraine, including Crimea. :):):)


What is good for Ukraine, is also good for Poland. Namely: weaken RuSSia as much as possible. A little disintegration will be the best option. hahahaha

Velund, do you realise that even if the whole West gave up supporting Ukraine, Poland would still stand by it??? No matter what it would cost us??

Did you read nuclear doctrine of Russia, stupido? Be careful about your dreams, which leave you with little chances to exist if they come true.

My dreams? Chechnya goes first, as usual. Then other regions declare independence from pathetic RuSSia Empire which has lost the war against Ukraine. Siberia becomes Chinese dependancy. You will be left with Moscow and 50 million people. That`s enough to start living like normal people and at last develop the civilisation which have have never had before. Ha!!!


Will you attack irredentist regions with nukes????? Endangering your own RuSSian territory??? :):):)

There are in fact numerous reports of people advocating against the annexation of Crimea (and Luhansk and Donetzk) who were abducted and murdered.

rferl.org/a/snatched-in-plain-sight-no-justice-in-crimean-tatar-s-slaying-five-years-after-russian-annexation/29821534.html

Of course the true scale of Russian crimes will only come out after the liberation of Crimea.


Fierce enough that it required Russian KGB thugs to start and the Russian army to be kept alive. You should ask yourself why Ukrainians everywhere rejected the Russians in 2022 and defended their home with everything they had.

Oh, yes, I mentioned the thugs but forgot to add the massive support from the RuSSist army which sent troops and weapons. Thanks.

PS. One of those weapons was used by RuSSist operators to shoot down a Dutch airliner in Eastern Ukraine.

but it wasn't on American TV so for novi it doesn't exist.....

I don't know which meaning you assign to "irredentism" (for me, first goals of current russian military operation is close to this term), but Poland will definitely get their share as NATO forepost and cannon fodder storage for ground invasion. Don't know, though, after wave of missiles to decision making centers, or before. ;)

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1596202388687409152

Finland continues it's unwavering support not just in arms but in critical infra- and energy equipment the genocidial terrorist state tries to destroy.

hahahaha Don`t play a stupid RuSSist. Firstly, Poland is protected by Jesus, the King of Poland. Secondly, Poland is protected by NATO. You are no match to fight against such protectors.


hahahaha What missiles??? The ones you are going to purchase in Iran coz you have already run out of your own???? hahahaha

Don't you think that it is high time to start attacking Poland if Berlin is supposed to be taken in autumn ?

No longer exists, fortunately.


If r*SSia even tried, it would be the stupidest mistake they made in their history. The result would be the end of r*SSia and of course the world's two superpowers, the USA and China, have made it clear that nukes are not an option for Putler.


They've even been buying back old rusty stuff that they sold to the third world years ago.

No wonder they're losing.

An interesting gesture from our government.

After the stray missile hit the village of Przewodów several km from the Polish-Ukrainian border, Germany offered to deploy in Poland several batteries of their own Patriot system.

We have the response of our government: "Better send those Patriot batteries to Ukraine".

When you think of it, it's kind of no-brainer. These systems would indeed be much more needed there. It's also a bitchslap given to the government in Berlin, often accused of not helping Ukraine enough.

On the other hand it's completely futile: Germans won't send modern Western systems such as Patriot to Ukraine. Not without US consent and also, because they'll be afraid it can be destroyed there and it's very expensive. Plus, while German soldiers could operate it in Poland, a NATO member, in Ukraine local soldiers would have to be trained first which takes time.

However it shows one thing: the tragedy in Przewodów changed nothing. Poland will continue to support Ukraine and call out those that are not doing their part. Another Ruusie's dream shattered into dust.