Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

Under this and the next governments. Even if we are abandoned by everybody else. Amen.

Hey...

My girlfriend has been telling me for years that Russian planes don't fly, Russian submarines don't swim, and Russian tanks can't start. For 9 months her parents have been getting Kalibrs on their head.

Sometimes - you need to respect your opponent. Sometimes - one needs to understand that your opponent is not a dumbass.

I hate war. After 9 months I understand this. However, I still hate Ukraine the most, for delivering me to this position.

While Ukrainians started hating RuSSians at last, after centuries of brotherly feelings.
So, there is the excellent balance of nature. :):):):)

Thank you, Mr Putler. You will go down in history as the one who achieved the impossible. hahahahahaha


It is not enough for a RuSSian like you and others to hate war. You need to primarily hate the ones who led to it. Only by active resistance to their corrupt leadership can RuSSians and Russians break free from their domestic slave oppression. And one day you might even join the European civilisation.

Exactly - after 9 months of the war, RuSSist pilots are still afraid of flying over Ukraine, 60 year old RuSSist tanks are still testing Javelin accuracy and RuSSist flag ships have been turned into submarines. hahahahaha

Your girlfriend was a mystic prophet or sb???
buhahahaha

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Now, the orcs are so fecked that they're firing unarmed munitions at Ukraine because of low supplies.

40 year old A15 Kent missiles with no explosive material in them. Basically as useful as elongated cannonballs.

Oh, how the mighty Soviet Union has fallen right down into the sh!t pit.

...and all of this because Russia wants a neutral buffer state and self-rule for the Russians. Unfu*ckingbelievable...

Indeed. PiS once again prioritized German bashing for domestic popularity over the good of the country. Because god forbid would actually extend an helping hand to its' neighbour. Shameful.

No, it doesn`t, darling. It wants Ukraine as its dependancy or even RuSSia itself.


Exactly - what bs you are ready to write here to attract attention...... :):):):)

When some moron in Poland makes claims on behalf of Russia and its president I trust Russia and its president not the Polish moron. Simple.

That is why you are our most favourite RuSSist here! Thanks, darling. hahahahaha


Exactly!!! :):):):)

Not because of low supplies, but to further deplete short supplies of AA missiles in AFU, disclose SAMs positions and overload remnants of air defense system to increase chances to "real ones". ;) And to save a bit of money, because safe discarding of old missiles is pretty expensive. ;)

But you can continue to believe in your fairy tales. ;)

Exactly because of low supplies.


The don't need AA missiles to shoot down bits of rusty metal. If one landed 50 cm away from you, all you'd hear is a dull thud.


Because you rashist morons haven't got any left.

It is hilarious to catch up on reading posts in the morning. Really, any educated person would laugh at the absolute brainwashed stupidity from some here. So lets review shall we?

First, Putin himself has said that this war is about the USSR break up and retaking land lost in that 1991 piece of history. Thats it. Not the bull$hit Novi and others are talking about NATO or the EU or anything else. Get your fvcking facts straight.

Second, Russia is buying drones and missiles from Iran. They are running out of smart weapons and now disposing of old nukes or nuke capable weapons by launching them without regard to civilian life against civilians in Ukraine. Note the complete inaccuracy of those weapons and you will have a very good idea of the condition of the rest of the nuke stockpiles.

Third, Russia is getting the $hit kicked out of them on the battlefield. They are dying in unsustainable numbers even for the cannon fodder machine of Russia.

Fourth, Russia left Kherson because they were about to get slaughtered. Not any other reason. Staying in Kherson would have meant the loss of tens of thousands of men who could not be moved to the north to fight.

Fifth, Russia is losing in the north as well. They cannot produce enough soon to be dead conscripts to hold land they took.

Sixth, the little green men who went to Crimea in 2014 did so illegally. A vote in an illegally occupied territory is illegal. Russia or Spain or any other country has no standing to conduct an illegal vote. All votes are only legal when conducted under the legal authority of Ukraine.

Seventh, it doesnt matter what Putin or any of the other Russian faggots feal or think. Ratification by acceptance of Ukraine existence has been don for decades by Russia and based on that one principal learned in second semester of any law school, Ukraine not only exists but has every right to exist despite what Russia might think now.

Eight, all the arguing of Russia this or Russia that to justify its invasion is complete bull$hit. No one cares what Russia thinks other than Russia. Putin is right, the west does not give one fvck about Russia or its opinion because we do not have to. Putin will absolutely get his new world order with Russia's alliances with other dirt farming $hit hole countries like Iran, and Syria. Congratulations. China and India are done using Russia for stockpiling oil. Now Russia has to spend that money with Iran for weapons? Thats the master plan? LMFAO Masterful idiocy.

Russia is losing. Accept it. STFU and crawl back into your little holes. All the day dreaming and wishing for different results has gotten Russia nothing and soon it will get them worse than nothing. And in case you are not reading todays news, Ukraine and the west will never give up, now that Russia has showed its true ability, the world is more united than ever before to end the Russian state as we have known it. Happy gulag you dumb mother fvckers!

@Novichok
If there was one ounce of rational thought or action behind anything Vlad has done since 2014 concerning Ukraine I would recognize it. Other than the historical significance of Russia actually being born in Kiev, there is no rational reason for anything that has taken place. The world is tired of Russia, tired of Putin and tired of the threats. The rest of the world wants him gone and Russia to be done as we know it. This is what will absolutely happen, and the struggle put up by Putin and his boys is an exercise in futility. Every dictator like him has ended up dead or in prison, he is only stacking up bodies before he meets the same fate. Lets just accelerate the process and someone kill the dumb fvck so the rest of Russia can get started on moving beyond this fool and reclaiming their lives along with Ukrainians reclaiming theirs.

Im surprised no one in his inner circle has taken him out yet or at least an attempted coup.

I don't know the man but me thinks that he would accept an invitation to an interview with a major US network. If he offered to be interviewed, they would refuse.

Why? Because then the whole world would finally be able to get his POV directly, not through Western presstitutes. My guess is that the world does not want to give him this opportunity.

For now, my final point is this: Putin may have overplayed his hand but I trust Western "democracies" - including the US - as much as I trust Gypsie fortune tellers.

... and Russia is going to lose this war, that much is certain. In the long run it will be better for the world and for Russia herself.

The only thing that worries me is that Russian defeat will strengthen the Banderopithecus population in Ukraine. Of course, most Ukrainians are simply Homo sapiens - like all of us - but the tiny Banderopithecus minority will surely rear their ugly heads again, even more than they did before. :(

Relax, I think Russia will not lose and fate of Banderopithecus is pretty dark. ;) Not sure that Poland will not get huge bill later, though. ;)

What worries me, current conscription in UA performed almost completely on East, everyone who has two legs, at least one eye and enough fingers on right hand. Zelensky's "gray cardinals" trying to save as much Banderopithecus as possible.

@Velund
You need to seek medical intervention. Russia will do nothing to Poland. The big bear is nothing more than a toothless old version of what it once was as a military. Little Vlad himself has said many times he does not want to fight NATO and he knows it would lead to absolute destruction of Russia and possibly the world. So, ditch the tough talk and recognize that all Russia is doing now is buying time and it is not buying enough.

Russian military history is one that shows Russia thinks winter is its friend. Maybe in WW2 it was, but not today. Todays Ukraine army is not only better trained, but better equipped and highly motivated. Yes, some cities will need to be completely rebuilt, but the strategy will not work and is not working. Once Crimea is within range it will fall, and little Vlad will have to fall with it.

@Novichok
I disagree. I think any network in the US would jump at the chance to interview him. He should stipulate that it be a live interview though so words can not be twisted or taken out of context. Vlad would of course need to agree to use yes or no answers and easy to understand explanations, not his typical mythical theories and avoidances shrouded in long drawn out Russian proverbs. The man should just come out and say plainly he wants to recreate the USSR. At least then people would understand the reason, and he honestly may get some nostalgic sympathy from people who understand the draw of the past. This is a big part of Russia's problem and always has been, the west does not understand the Russian way of thinking. They dont even understand their thinking half the time.

Seen from the outside it very much looks like she will - too many mistakes, too many aspects of state/army organisation completely neglected, to put it mildly. The best option would be to stage a court coup, overthrow Putin and save what can be saved.

One way or another, Zelensky has to do everything to marginalise Bandera's hellish spawn or he is asking for trouble. Unfortunately, the recent appointment of Melnyk as deputy foreign minister is a very bad sign.


...and for this I will drink.

He was , he predicted putin - roz-putin.

Oh, poor you... forced to support genocide because your stupid and violent countrymen believe the stupid, lying propaganda put out by your primitive and backwards government....

You are not any kind of victim here, you are on the side of the aggressor and you support killing children and theft all to glorify your Tsar-God that you primitively worship.

Another page from domestic abuse textbook- blaming the victim for one's aggression
' I hate you for making me do this! It's all your fault! If only you didn't try to cover yourself and accepted the blow I wouldn't have to hit you more!

Bobko unloads his negative energy on PF.

This has been a hallmark of r*SSia's illegal invasion.

As soon as it started to go wrong for the orcs, about a week in, they've been whining that Ukrainians didn't let them just walk in, trash their homes, abduct their kids, rape their women and torture the men.

It's as if they're outraged that civilised people won't let them do that.

There are parallels in Latvia; the orcs who fled there to avoid certain death on the front line are outraged that they have to apply for visas and aren't just allowed to run around as if it was their own territory.

@Lenka
Excellent analogy.

Russia has never and will never admit it's failed itself. They attitude of "we will do it the Russian way" fails them over and over again. They have a completely baseless superiority complex when they have never lead the world in any real meaningful way. A country with an embarrassing wealth of natural resources that gives nothing to its people. One thing I really thought was amazing in Kuwait was how the King gives every citizen money every year from the oil sales. The money just shows up in their bank accounts. No having to apply for it, no red tape. IF Russia did something like this the whole country would be completely different and much better off. But they cant even do this. They have to hoard all the money with the chosen few. Pitiful is what the Russian collective mentality is.

@PolAmKrakow
You don't think putin and other russian oligarchs want to share anything, do you? They will sooner escape to North Korea, Afrika or Israel than do that

Do all American citizens receive money straight into their bank accounts for US petroleum and gas exports? Does every German get money for car industry exports, every Taiwanese for electronics exports etc. etc. ???

Comparing a filthy rich tiny statelet sitting on huge oil reserves to ordinary countries who have to carefully balance their income/outcome doesn't make much sense.

Depends on which State you live in.
Alaska for example gives each of their citizens an oil royalty for oil sales every year.
Back On-Topic please.

@GefreiterKania
Every Alaskan resident gets a check from oil and gas leases every year. Could easily be done if it was written into leases with the oil companies. Russia could do it and every other country could do it if they wanted. But the oil lobby in the US will never allow it to happen because they control congress. Dubai is a completely tax free nation because of oil, 75% of all residents are at least millionaires. No oil lobby there either. In Kuwait a non citizen can not own a business or be a majority partner in any business because it is a right of citizenship. There are some things we can learn from some country's that would improve a lot of lives. Imagine if all the Orlen profits we going back to citizens?!

A new government in Ukraine would be wise to use some of these concepts when the war is over. The job creation and economy there will explode when this ends. I for one and not only betting on it, but preparing for it. Land in Ukraine, in the cities, and reconstruction will become very valuable.