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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4



Alien
27 Nov 2022  #1171

Dubai is

Dubai is.....almost bankrupt.

GefreiterKania
27 Nov 2022  #1172

@PolAm

Orlen's profit in 2021 was the highest in the company's history - 11 billion pln. If this was split between 40 million Polish citizens, everyone would get about 275 pln/year. That's about 60 dollars/year. Hardly an exorbitant sum of money. :)

Makes much more sense to pool that cash in the budget and buy a couple of HIMARS, if you ask me.

jon357
27 Nov 2022  #1173

Dubai is a completely tax free nation because of oil,

They actually don't have that much. Most of the UAE oil in in Abu Dhabi's territory.

Of the oil rich MENA countries, Qatar is the one that pays ridiculous amounts to its (few) citizens. Saudi Arabia divvies it out on a tribal basis however they have a far larger population than the gulf states.

Imagine if all the Orlen profits we going back to citizens?!

Imagine ifl the profits from all major industries were going back to the citizens...

About the orcs, it was hilarious to read that Pighozin started filming a recruitment ad in the city of Tver. When the residents woke up to see APCs with Ukrainian flags driving down the street they actually thought it was real and that Ukraine were invading.

At least its practice for later when r*SSia is dismantled.

PolAmKrakow
27 Nov 2022  #1174

@GefreiterKania
My point with Orlen was just an example, not really literal. But if you take all the government owned corporations, control excessive salaries, and redistribute profits to the people who actually own the government its not a bad idea. My point really being, for Russia, who has insane resources and profits before the war, they could impact every Russian life in a very positive manner. It will never happen though as the Russian mentality wont allow for that thinking.

Meanwhile in Ukraine, most of the power is being restored, and Ukraine continues to advance on Russian held ground. The snow keeps falling and it keeps getting colder. The Russian boys are not even close to being prepared for how cold its going to get.

Novichok
27 Nov 2022  #1175

I think any network in the US would jump at the chance to interview him.

Networks would jump but he would still be denied access to the American public. They would call it "lies" or "hate speech" and refuse to air it. Don't forget Trump and Twitter.

I watch ABC nightly news. They never quote him directly. Z? No problem.

johnny reb
27 Nov 2022  #1176

The biden regime announced they're sending another $4.5 billion in US aid to Ukraine, despite President Zelensky attempting to con America and NATO into WW3 last week by bombing Poland and blaming Russia for the strike.

The funding, which will help alleviate the acute budget deficit caused by Putin's brutal war of aggression, was made possible with generous support from Congress. (Demo war mongers)

The Government of Ukraine will receive the funding before the end of 2022.
Once these additional funds are fully disbursed, the U.S. government will have provided $13 billion in direct budgetary support to the Government of Ukraine.
The U.S. has sent more than $54 billion to Ukraine since the war against Russia started, a mere drop in the bucket. :-/

cms neuf
27 Nov 2022  #1177

Russians complaining about freedom of speech and censorship ? That's kooky

Tell you what - at the next meeting of the Defenders of Kursk Allotment Gardens Association (15th branch) get up and ask the Deputy Chief Gardening Supply Superintendent why there is no fertilizer, no garden tools and no gas for the North Korean lawnmower.

Of course Putin would be allowed on US television.

He will never step on US soil again though - thank god because rapists are not welcome

Novichok
27 Nov 2022  #1178

The U.S. has sent more than $54 billion to Ukraine

...but can't or won't find 25 for the Wall to protect itself.

Of course Putin would be allowed on US television.

Trump was not allowed on Twitter. Duh!

As PAK said, Putin would be allowed to be on American TV AFTER the presswh*ores edited the tape to make him admit that the invasion was a huge mistake and that Z is a hero,

That's how the Western press pigs operate because they are worse than Pravda and now RT.

cms neuf
27 Nov 2022  #1179

Trump gave many full length interviews on US network TV.

He also took part in nationally televised debates until he decided he was too chicken to debate a 78 year old man

Who cares about Twitter - it's a data gathering company that a few million people use. Any mid size US paper has the same number of paying customers

And of course Trump was allowed to set up his own social media

None of that would be allowed in Russia - your idea of debate is when Putin should finally retire from ice hockey and flying a fighter jet

Please stick to the topic of the thread

Novichok
27 Nov 2022  #1180

Simple test...Go ot YouTube and enter "interview with Zelensky" and then "interview with Putin". The results are not even close.

Paulina
27 Nov 2022  #1181

@Novichok, what is your point with the number of results on YouTube?

despite President Zelensky attempting to con America and NATO into WW3 last week by bombing Poland

That's a serious accusation - do you have any proof to support it?

(Demo war mongers)

If you honestly think that arming victims of aggression so they could defend themselves is warmongering then you're sick in the head. But I think that in reality you're simply butthurt that Democratic government is sending money to Ukraine and hence all this sick twisting of reality on your part. From now on you should be known as Gríma Wormtongue! This is what I have to tell you:

gandalfvsgrima

Novichok
27 Nov 2022  #1182

what is your point with the number of results on YouTube?

Do it and you will know.

Paulina
27 Nov 2022  #1183

@Novichok, I did it and I still don't know what's your point. Elaborate :)

johnny reb
27 Nov 2022  #1184

do you have any proof to support it?

Do you have any to support otherwise ?

so they could defend themselves is warmongering then you're sick in the head.

If you think it is America's job then you are sick in the head.

This is what I have to tell you:

And that is what I have to tell you. :-)

Korvinus
27 Nov 2022  #1185

lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1827634/latvia-plans-to-scrap-russian-language-classes-lithuania-may-follow-suit

Latvia plans to scrap Russian language classes, Lithuania may follow suit.​

Under this and the next governments.

We already received major kickback, at least in forms of
1) putting a stop on Russian expansionism that would sooner or later threaten Poland.
2) EU flunkies now complaining that Italy and Spain are not housing enough refugees from Ukraine, while Poles and Czech took in quite alot. I had a good laugh when I read this today.

pawian
27 Nov 2022  #1186

while Poles and Czech took in quite alot.

That is our duty of Slavic brothers to host Ukrainian refugees.

Paulina
27 Nov 2022  #1187

Do you have any to support otherwise ?

From what I understand the photos show fragments of a missile from Soviet air defence system which targets only stuff in the air, like missiles and aircraft, not targets on the ground. So the most probable and logical explanation is that during the intensive Russian missile attacks Ukrainian missile was fired at a RuSSian missile but it missed. Something like this was bound to happen at some point. Of course those are just preliminary conclusions and we all should wait for results of the investigation which is on-going.

If you think it is America's job

Yes, it is America's and the UK's job, because those two countries signed the Budapest Memorandum and gave Ukraine security assurances.

GefreiterKania
27 Nov 2022  #1188

@Korvinus

Pity about the Russian classes. It's such a beautiful language... душещипательный. Oh, well... I suppose in the present political climate it was only to be expected. :-/

pawian
27 Nov 2022  #1189

Ukrainian missile was fired at a RuSSian missile but it missed.

All serious experts corroborate it.

Johnny, stop spreading fake news or creating urban legends about an intentional attack. We have already seen through your ritardism, don`t make us spend more time than necessary over it.

Novichok
27 Nov 2022  #1190

Hey, Russia-hating morons, if you watched this you would not be Russian-hating morons.

youtu.be/dfgF4x7TCmM

pawian
27 Nov 2022  #1191

Back on topic edition 126

Weapons from the front in Ukraine will be repaired in Poland.
Ukrainian soldiers fire thousands of rounds at Russian targets every day, forcing the US to replace gun barrels and repair artillery pieces abroad. This forced the Pentagon to organize a repair point in Poland for Western arms delivered to Ukraine, the New York Times reported.

Pity about the Russian classes. It's such a beautiful language.

Now it is the language of brutal occupiers, rapists and murderers of civilians.

I like German. Do you think it would have been wise of me to admit it during or after WW2???

if you watched

No, we don`t watch RuSSist stuff coz it is pure brainwashing propaganda.

mafketis
27 Nov 2022  #1192

if you watched this

why would I be interested in the views of a paid shill?

I pay attention to...

first rank:

people on the ground in Ukraine who speak Ukrainian (and/or it's inferior sister russian)

cultural insiders from russia and/or Ukraine who know what they're talking about

second rank:

indpendent experts without a history of vvh0ring themselves to russia

I pay no attention to known shills....

cultural insiders (both anti- and pro- putain) all say that putain's war of aggression is about a desire to recreate some form of russian empire. even pro-putain russians dismiss NATO as irrelevant or a distraction meant to deceive the west

the few independent experts who find material reasons are far more general (like Zeihan's invasion corridor theory)

only the shills are selling NATO as a reason because they think that naive, insecure westerners with daddy issues will buy it and see putain as their special, spiritual daddy....

jon357
27 Nov 2022  #1193

Russian classes. It's such a beautiful language

I find it ugly, harsh and crude..

a repair point in Poland for Western arms delivered to Ukraine

More of this is needed, and a few dirty tricks too.

I pay no attention to known shills....

One of their latest tricks is to pretend to be pro-Ukrainian, get a social media following and then start trying to sow doubt.

Miloslaw
27 Nov 2022  #1194

I find it ugly, harsh and crude..

Me too.

There is nothing nice or subtle in Russian language.

Novichok
27 Nov 2022  #1195

why would I be interested in the views of a paid shill?

But you are interested in the views of unpaid Russia-hating Ukrainian shills here.

Next time think before you post.

Novichok
28 Nov 2022  #1196

This one goes under "How Democracy Really Works". Quoting:

Millions of Ukrainians are without power as winter bites: Households facing bleak few months without light, water or heat as temperatures plummet and officials compare Russian shelling of energy infrastructure to 'genocidal' tactics of Stalin

You see, my dear Ukrainians, when you support your democratically elected officials in their refusal to be neutral and NATO-free bad things happen. So remember this next time you vote.

PolAmKrakow
28 Nov 2022  #1197

Meanwhile, in the real war, and not the fantasy land of Putinazi supporters, Russia lost another 300 citizens around Bakhmut. This is approximately the daily body count in just that area alone. Russian officers, are now quoted as calling new recruits "single use". Waves of these useful pieces of meat are forced to walk into the firing lines so Russia can find Ukraine positions. Once they are killed, the Orcs send in drones. This is the great Russian military at work. Pathetic WWI military tactics and terrible leadership. Even the Wagner group is now saying they are trying to "wear down" Ukraine troops in Bakhmut, and not "take" Bakhmut. All of this while reports are coming out that it looks like another retreat may be coming and centered around the nuclear power plant. Imagine another retreat. LMFAO

And once again, while all this news is coming out, the troll farm is quiet. Spineless and gutless fvcks who just want to talk $hit on PF who do nothing. Some hiding in the US behind the country they hate so much, living with the people they despise so much, and paying taxes to the government who is sending weapons to kill Russians. My suggestion to all the Orc's and Orc supporters in the US and other western countries is to cut out the middle man. Just send your money directly to Ukraine so they can kill more Orc's more efficiently. Isn't it great to know you are contributing to the deaths of your own? Happy gulag biatches!

cms neuf
28 Nov 2022  #1198

Weird effect of the Chinese unrest - oil and mineral prices are dropping as their factories get shuttered.

Bad news if you are an aging murderer trying to use oil to blackmail enemies and pay for your army's drinking binges.

jon357
28 Nov 2022  #1199

oil and mineral prices are dropping

Indeed, and combined with the production increase in KSA, Putler will be even more cash-starved than his war chest is already. maybe he'll have to sell one of his megayachts.

And good news about the long-range missiles. r*SSia is squeezed harder by the day.

mafketis
28 Nov 2022  #1200

there are many others who certainly don't want this war, and who don't support Putin

then why don't they protest... if 100,000 people showed up to protest in the middle of Moscow police would have no hope of arresting/stopping even a small fraction of them....

Iranians are protesting

Chinese are protesting

russians are sitting on their @sses wondering why people don't like them

Even russians who run away from the country don't think to protest and I can best that in a few years Georgia might really, really regret letting a bunch of russians in since they won't integrate and will assume they (still) own the place (look at Baltics).

I don't.... hate them as much as look down on them, it's a nasty culture that I want nothing to do with


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