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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4



Korvinus
2 Dec 2022  #1321

I wonder if Russians (any Russians, not just Z patriots) will be harassed when they travel around Europe in the following years. If Russian brands will need to disassociate, if we'll see Russians pretending to be Ukrainian to avoid mistreatment. If this will cause opinion of Russia to shift, like Germans are still disliked in Poland and Turks are still disliked on the Balkans.

Novichok
2 Dec 2022  #1322

How does this guy sleep at night?

He does not and I wouldn't, either.
A classical chicken and the egg or circular logic... NATO crawls up Russia's ass. Russia reacts. NATO takes new applications and say: See? That's why we need NATO. Rinse and repeat except NATO is now even closer. But that will not stop PF morons from saying what NATO?

pawian
2 Dec 2022  #1323

NATO is now even closer.

Yes, darling, coz that is a natural reaction of so-far neutral states to the RuSSian invasion. RuSSists can blame themselves for causing this situation.

If this will cause opinion of Russia to shift, l

It is enough to read comments under youtube films. Most support Ukraine and reject RuSSia. Very well.

Hey, RuSSist Mongols, stay in Asia where you belong and come back to Europe only when you become civilised at last!!!

mafketis
2 Dec 2022  #1324

NATO crawls up Russia's ass

Always bottoms with you.... a sick fixation....

NATO is only a threat to russia if russia wants to invade its neighbors.... which it clearly does. So.... bring on the NATO!!!!!!!!

johnny reb
2 Dec 2022  #1325

He does not and I wouldn't, either.

Russians are angry Putin is spending billions on an unpopular war as they freeze back home.

Miloslaw
2 Dec 2022  #1326

They are and if it goes on much longer the Russian people may actually "grow some" for once and stand up against it.
I won't hold my breath but I think that many Russians have had enough and some of the rich oligarchs that have had the most to lose may find it in their own interests to stir it up....time will tell.

johnny reb
2 Dec 2022  #1327

Funny you say that as I have had those same thoughts this last week.
Russian people losing their kin, their homes freezing, inflation thru the roof, while their leader blows billions on a lost war.
There might just be a civil war within Russia in the near future.

Miloslaw
2 Dec 2022  #1328

There might just be a civil war within Russia in the near future.

We can but hope......

Novichok
2 Dec 2022  #1329

[quote=mafketis]NATO is only a threat to Russia if Russia wants to invade its neighbors....[/quote
...like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania? Which the USSR let got and Russia never tried to get back? Those neighbors or some other unnamed neighbors?

After the republics were free, NATO, like a venomous snake, started crawling toward Russia while the Western presswho*res and PF Russia-hating idiots were assuring the gullible morons that there is nothing to see there. NATO? What NATO?

Yeah, that NATO that Russia will not tolerate in Ukraine with the same determination as the US would not tolerate the Warsaw Pact in Mexico. Duh!

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1330

Everything has its limits... Quoting:

France has no more weapons to send to Ukraine - Politico

France has unofficially admitted that it is unable to provide Ukraine with more weapons due to dwindling stocks, but promised to continue helping Kiev in other ways, Politico has reported, citing an anonymous source.

It comes amid reports that most NATO members have also run out of weaponry to give to Ukraine.


Hey, guys, what are you going to do when Argentina attacks Western Europe? Which is as likely as Russia attacking Western Europe. Now I really fear for your safety...

johnny reb
3 Dec 2022  #1331

Putin slipped and fell down several stairs at his official residence.and soils himself at official residence.
Claims from a so-called Kremlin insider said that the Russian tyrant, who is said to be suffering from cancer, was helped to a sofa by bodyguards as his personal doctors rushed to assist him.

Rumors have been that the Russian leader is seriously ill and leaked documents recently confirmed that he has early-stage Parkinson's disease and pancreatic cancer.

May he not suffer and die quickly.

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1332

May he not suffer and die quickly.

This genius did. Quoting:

The death of a US mercenary exposes the bleak reality of service with Ukraine's 'International Legion'
It's been confirmed that Trent Davis, a 21-year-old US citizen who traveled to Ukraine to fight in the International Legion, has been killed in combat.


And some readers' comments...

What a waste. Poor stupid kid.

They thought they are heroes from Hollywood movies, they made their choices and dig their own graves

Trent Davis, a 21-year-old US citizen, wins the Darwin Award for removing his low IQ genes from the gene pool.


I wonder if just before he took his last breath he still believed that his decision to leave the safety of the US was a right one.

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1333

The Battle of Bakhmut is a meat grinder except that the meat is Ukrainians. This is what Russia did...Quoting:

The Russians could not fight effectively till now because of the civilian population, which the Ukrainian troops used as human shields and hid behind (this fact was reported by Western organizations).

While withdrawing tactically, the Russian side evacuated civilians from these territories. Thus, he drew the Ukrainian troops into a terrain that could literally be burned. Before, the Russians could not afford it. They knew who they were dealing with. Ukrainians have been known for their perversions since WWII.


GefreiterKania
3 Dec 2022  #1334

NATO that Russia will not tolerate in Ukraine

Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda. You keep repeating that like a broken record, totally ignoring the fact that it is your idol - the bald KGBist murderer himself who admitted that the war is about imperial conquest and restoring the Soviet Union and not about some imaginary "threat" from NATO, but hey - don't let reality influence the content of your posts.

GefreiterKania
3 Dec 2022  #1335

Russia IS empire.

You are talking in caveman terms, Bobi. There is no such things as empires today and no emperors. They are a thing of the past like catapults, ballistae and white majority in French national football team. If you want to have something resembling (only resembling) an empire, like the Americans or the Chinese have, then you need to, first and foremost, build strong demographics, economy and military (Russia has none of it at the moment) or at least - like the Germans - modern industry and political soft power (Russia has neither at the moment).

Until you have some of the things I mentioned, you can dream of an empire just like the "Gloria Excelsior Sacrum Imperium!" crowd is dreaming of a Polish empire (before the nurse takes them to their daily electroconvulsive therapy session). Sorry.

cms neuf
3 Dec 2022  #1336

Bakhmut will soon be added to the list of Russian defeats Rich - it's as senseless a battle as can be imagined and for decades to come you will meet the one legged veterans of that begging at your tram stop in Moscow.

The Russian troops are there now in trenches, with second hand canvas sports shoes and Hello Kitty sleeping bags but with insufficient ammo and no fuel. Their leaders are obviously a long way behind the front line, often collecting bribes from parents.

PolAmKrakow
3 Dec 2022  #1337

All the tough talk after a $60 per barrel cap on oil has been made? This on all oil not flowing through pipelines. So, no ships to carry the Russia money supply unless the oil is cheap. Without the oil money, and Russia can not produce oil at $60 and make a profit, Russia will begin to choke on its over supply of crude. Little Vlad is pi$$ing on his own shoes while trying to play with the big boys. Happy gulag biatches!

mafketis
3 Dec 2022  #1338

Which the USSR let got and Russia never tried to get back?

Because NATO was there! russian tv constantly goes on about the need to take back those areas (and there are rumors that putain regrets not attacking there first as he thinks (in hindsight) he could have taken them over before NATO realized what was going on....)

So... not about NATO, not about NATO (sung to a tune and chanted for several hours in your ears).

talking in caveman terms, Bobi

Well your 'good' russian turned out to be just... russian....

As many have said, in civiizational terms russia has yet to catch up to Europe and is stuck in the empire phase, exiting which was so painful and humiliating for Britain and France....

Civilized countries have realized that empires are massive sinks with little or no practical return.... russians are still stuck in a 19th century mindset that they speak to the power and glory of the empire's center (or the emperor in the case of russians).

GefreiterKania
3 Dec 2022  #1339

or the emperor in the case of russians

But that's the point - who's their "emperor"? The bald, lying KGB coward? Is that really how low they fell? I refuse to believe that. You are underestimating Russian people, Maf - they will eventually rise and get rid of the dwarf.

mafketis
3 Dec 2022  #1340

You are underestimating Russian people

And you're in for great disappointment....

twitter.com/KSergatskova/status/1598594307262488579

Tacitus
3 Dec 2022  #1341

On a positive note. Polish cities are using their connections to help Ukraine. I've recently learned that Zabrze contacted my home town Essen with whom they have a city partnership and arranged together a special partnership with the Ukrainian city of Riwne. A convoy with supplies was sent from Essen via Zabrze from which a group of Polish and German volunteers are now making their way to Ukraine. Just a reminder that war can also bring out the best in people and I wished actions like those would gain more public attention.

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1342

totally ignoring the fact that it is your idol - the bald KGBist murderer himself

A. I don't crawl into your head so stay out of mine.

B. Putin was not convicted of murder so you are lying that he is a murderer. If you are into those idiotic Polish metaphors then Putin is in the same group as both Bushes except that Putin's body bag count is a lot lower. In that sense, Putin is less competent as a killer.

C. As an ex-KGB with access to the Internet and YouTube, Putin noticed that the US has been in a state of war 92% of the time since its creation and exists to be the world's most bellicose cop that is always ready and eager to rearrange other countries - even if not invited like in Syria. For some strange reason, Putin and Russia don't like to be encircled and rearranged so his only response is to restore the buffer. Duh!

D. Putin expressed his interest in joining NATO. Predictably, NATO turned him down because these m-fers desperately need a boogeyman to justify their existence. Without proof, I claim now that NATO aka USA does not want Russia to fall apart. What would then be their mission and reason to be? Nigeria?

Velund
3 Dec 2022  #1343

Without proof, I claim now that NATO aka USA does not want Russia to fall apart.

Separate NATO from US Deep State please. NATO is just tool. If there will be no reason of its existence, it will be replaced by something more useful. AUKUS for example. And Russia that is torn apart to a number of small bantustans is much easier prey for 'merican eagle. ;)

Something went wrong, though, with NATO plans... Turned out that image of Russia created by western MSM and real Russia is two very different things. ;)

mafketis
3 Dec 2022  #1344

the US has been in a state of war

Just because the US does it doesn't mean other countries should/could try it too....

USA does not want Russia to fall apart

Sadly, probably yes. The time to dismantle it like a thanksgiving turkey was in the early 90s but the russia was treated far too delicately then....

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1345

Separate NATO from US Deep State please. NATO is just tool.

Speaking of tools...I wonder if this moron Z knows by now that he is just a tool aka useful idiot for the US swamp.

Hey, Z, they are using you and your country to weaken but not mortally wound Russia. They couldn't give a fu*ck about you, Z, and you corrupt sh*ithole. Take it from me.

Respectfully, PF Genius.

Velund
3 Dec 2022  #1346

I wonder if this moron Z knows

Think of the viziers in the Ottoman Empire. They were men of nerves of steel. They changed regularly, and stopped stealing the moment they were picked up and dragged into the hands of the executioner. And the next one would come along and start stealing like there is no tomorrow.

Zelensky steals as if he thinks he will be allowed to leave with what he has stolen. ;) And every new day of the war is a chance to steal more. He doesn't care how many Ukrainians die for it. Cocaine is a great cure for anxiety and doubt, and Z has no shortage of it.

Cojestdocholery
3 Dec 2022  #1347

Everything has its limits.

not really, your BS is limitless. F psycho!

Separate NATO

You had your chance now just shut up and take it like a good Russian.
USA offered you position of a junior ally but you refused. End of story. Delusions of Russian mir. lol!

GefreiterKania
3 Dec 2022  #1348

Hey, Z, they are using you and your country to weaken but not mortally wound Russia

Of course. And, as a Polish patriot who loves his old country, you should appreciate the fact that it is beneficial for Poland.

As long as Ukraine - and not Poland - is the buffer state between NATO and Russia, and rallies her nation around hatred of everything Russian, which is exactly what is happening at the moment (too bad that they decided to choose mass murderes as their founding myth heroes, but that's another topic), and which Russia makes very easy for them, Poland remains relatively safe.

If Russia is weakened by this war, and perhaps even fragmented into 5-6 states - so much the better for Poland and the civilised world in general.

If in the process Russians destroy as many Banderopithecs as possible - so much the better for Poland and the civilised world in general.

If, by this war, Russian assets in western governments are exposed and shamed - so much the better for Poland and the civilised world in general.

As for Ukraine, we have to support them and - depending on the level of retardism-banderism they insist upon - maintain relatively friendly relations with them even after the war.

PolAmKrakow
3 Dec 2022  #1349

@Velund
And what will happen to all that little Vlad has stolen? The billion dollar mansion and all the yacht's? When will this little POS be taken to the gallows along with all his buddies who have stolen from the people all these years? Your history lessons are bull$hit.

@Novichok
Um yeah. Thanks captain obvious.

Korvinus
3 Dec 2022  #1350

Think of the viziers in the Ottoman Empire.

At least they have indoor plumbing unlike Ruskies and have no need to steal washing machines from neighboring countries.


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