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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4



mafketis
3 Dec 2022  #1351

In today's installment of "How low can russia go?" Iran is has turned to russia for help in oppressing its citizens?

Iran, a country where young women are beaten to death by the police for showing their hair in public doesn't know how to be brutal enough in crushing their citizens' spirits.

So... they're asking russia for help since putain managed to completely destroy the russian public.

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1599110091667824640

I expect expression of support for the Islamic republic from Novichok any day now....

pawian
3 Dec 2022  #1352

Banderopithecs

Stop using this dehumanising language - it is your own recommendation. Did you forget?? :):):)

You are underestimating Russian people, Maf - they will eventually rise and get rid of the dwarf.

Too late. They should have done it in February at the latest, just after the invasion commenced. But they waited to greet the possible victory. Now they are pissed off coz they are losing. So, they are still Mongols who need to learn to be Europeans.

Velund
3 Dec 2022  #1353

USA offered you position of a junior ally but you refused.

What? ;) In my universe, it was Putin who offered to accept Russia into NATO (during Clinton's visit to Moscow in 2000) and create a global security system, but his offer was rejected.

jon357
3 Dec 2022  #1354

offered to accept Russia into NATO

You mean he begged to be let in.

And no, there was never a chance. R*SSia isn't a reliable partner for a defensive alliance against imperialist aggression.

Korvinus
3 Dec 2022  #1355

during Clinton's visit to Moscow in 2000) and create a global security system

in 2022 we have:
- USSR was the greatest state on earth and single party democracy is the best democracy, just look how awesome and wholesome China and North Korea are, we should be like them and cleanse everyone touched by western degeneracy.

- Denaziification of brainwashed Russians in so called Ukraine, that believe they belong to some fake hohol nation, if we just liberate them 99% of them will immediately realize they were Russians all along like in Kherson.

- NATO should roll back to pre 1999 borders so we can invade Baltics and Poland, kurica - nie ptica, Polsza - nie zagranica.
- It could go on, but I can't be bothered to put effort when arguing with a vatnik.

pawian
3 Dec 2022  #1356

Zelensky steals

Stop spreading RuSSist propaganda here, we are not in RuSSia, this is the Polish forum where your stinking lies are debunked immediately. Prove what you are falsely barking out, darling.

realize they were Russians all along like in Kherson.

Yes, the myth of RuSSian oriented Ukrainians collapsed most spectacularly in Kherson - first, its inhabitants protested against RuSSist occupation. Then , they greeted UKR liberators with flowers.

GefreiterKania
3 Dec 2022  #1357

Stop using this dehumanising language

They dehumanised themselves when they decided to worship mass murderers.

Paulina
3 Dec 2022  #1358

@GefreiterKania, you could say the same about RuSSians today or Germans during World War II. So either dehumanisation is wrong or not and it can be "deserved" - so... make up your mind.

pawian
3 Dec 2022  #1359

make up your mind.

Exactly.
Kania, take Paulina`s advice coz you are either inconsistent or hypocrite. :):)

GefreiterKania
3 Dec 2022  #1360

RuSSians

Those Russians who worship Stalin (a mass murderer, no doubt), for example, can rightly be called RuSSists - but as far as I remember I opposed to ordinary soldiers, often conscripted against their will and thrown into the meat grinder, being dehumanised with hateful language.

So either dehumanisation is wrong

Dehumanisation is always wrong but it's not possible to dehumanise those who had earlier dehumanised themselves (they renounced their humanity). Hence a stalinist being called a "RuSSist" or a banderist being called a "Banderopithec" are not cases of dehumanisation. Simple as that.

Really, I have to explain everything to you like to little children. *rolls eyes*

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1361

You mean he begged to be let in.

No, Putin never begged. That is Z's MO now - begging for my tax dollars and US support as his only lifeline. Without them, he would be playing chess with Causeascu up there or serving as fertilizer.

R*SSia isn't a reliable partner for a defensive alliance against imperialist aggression.

Ran into a logical corner and didn't know what to say after "against" so the best you could say is "imperialist aggression" meaning ... Russia.

Yes, genius, Russia in NATO would not be reliable in defending Europe from Russia...hahahahahahahaha... You are so brilliant...

pawian
3 Dec 2022  #1362

ordinary soldiers, often conscripted against their will and thrown into the meat grinder,

Who happily turn into murderers of civilians and rapists of Ukr women and girls. Are you crazy???

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1363

Dehumanisation is always wrong

BS, Ms. High Morality. Dehumanization is how you win wars. Duh!
If you want to lose a war, just tell your guys that the enemy are nice guys and that they love their mommies and daddies just like they do.

That's why, following our noble and just Paulina, the Americans should be yelled at for calling them fu*cking Japs.

pawian
3 Dec 2022  #1364

the Americans should be yelled at for calling them fu*cking Japs.

Darling, it was Japs who attacked America, not the other way round. What do you know about the WW2 history??? :):):)

Paulina
3 Dec 2022  #1365

@Novichok, you must've mistaken me with GefreiterKania... and yourself :)) It is you who's whining that we're using "RuSSia" and "RuSSians" :)))

Those Russians who worship Stalin (a mass murderer, no doubt), for example, can rightly be called RuSSists

Or those who defend Stalin or what he did. I've discussed with plenty such RuSSians. But you don't get to decide for us whom we call RuSSists and whom we don't. For me it's enough if someone supports Putin, RuSSia's invasion of Ukraine and denies Ukrainians the right to have their own country, nation, language, culture and the right to decide about the future of their country.

ordinary soldiers, often conscripted against their will and thrown into the meat grinder, being dehumanised with hateful language.

Those ordinary soldiers may still have the same views that make them RuSSists. Just like with Velund or Crnogorac3, who happily support Putin, this invasion and killing Ukrainians, but don't seem to be very willing to express their support by dying on the real frontline :)))

Also, as I've explained it to you already, calling someone a "RuSSist" is no different than calling someone a "rightard" or "leftard". I've noticed, Kania, that you've been calling people "leftards" recently, so are you "dehumanising" people with leftwing views by using "hateful language"?

not possible to dehumanise those who had earlier dehumanised themselves (they renounced their humanity)

Of course it is possible lol And no, noone "renounces" being a human being. That's a convenient way of thinking for those who want to dehumanise others, but it's not true.

GefreiterKania
3 Dec 2022  #1366

Who happily turn into murderers of civilians and rapists of Ukr women and girls.

Some of them do, but it doesn't justify tarring them all with the same brush.

you've been calling people "leftards" recently, so are you "dehumanising" people with leftwing views by using "hateful language"

No, I am combining the words "leftists" and "retards", therefore using a precise and accurate language. :)

Miloslaw
3 Dec 2022  #1367

Majority of RuSSians support RuSSian invasion of Ukraine

I am not sure that is true.
Older Russians support the invasion, younger ones don't and there is a very large grey area in the middle that dare not comment.
I think Russians are starting to see the light.
Whether they do anything about it is another matter.

Paulina
3 Dec 2022  #1368

@Miloslaw, spot on!

Yes, because I'm doing it for the right cause. :)

In your opinion. But thanks for showing what a hypocrite you are. It's always better to know whom we're dealing with.

I am not sure that is true. (...)
I think Russians

Well, I don't have to "think" or guess, because I know the latest poll results by Levada Center:

levada.ru/en/2022/11/01/conflict-with-ukraine-october-2022/

"Support for the actions of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine remains at the level of last month - 73%"

It's lower among people 18-24 year old, but it's still a majority: 58%.

Only 20% of Russians in general do not support the actions of the RuSSian army.

pawian
3 Dec 2022  #1369

"Support for the actions of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine remains at the level of last month - 73%".

Yes, that is pathetic. I had already been aware of that RuSSian sick attitude at the beginning of the illegal invasion.

Novichok
3 Dec 2022  #1370

What type of country decides that a suitable response to economic warfare is real warfare?

A country that knows you can die from hunger just as easily as from a bullet except it takes longer. Ukrainians are more impacted by econ warfare than by Russian artillery.

Japs, to their credit, attacked US Navy, not Honolulu. Plus, the US went there first to meddle, not the other way around. You meddle, you die.

pawian
3 Dec 2022  #1371

A country that knows you can die from hunger

Darling, what do you know about the Ukrainian Holodomor - Great Famine???

Novichok
4 Dec 2022  #1372

A reader's comment worth posting here:

All those Ukrainian refugees and no Russian gas. So Germany, are you winning yet?

Velund
4 Dec 2022  #1373

All those Ukrainian refugees and no Russian gas.

You would add "and probably no Russian oil anymore since tomorrow"... ;) Putin already voiced that those who joined "price cap" flashmob have to find another supplier. ;) I doubt that he joked.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Dec 2022  #1374

So Germany, are you winning yet?

....neither is Russia!.....



snort:)

reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/zbpz2a/the_paper_tiger/

Novichok
4 Dec 2022  #1375

....neither is Russia!.....

...except that Russia is fighting for Russia - which is normal and commendable - and Germany is a reluctant US bi*tch - which is neither moral nor commendable.

To help you deal with this situation...Dieser verdammte Krieg ist nicht unser Krieg.

BTW, no offense meant.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Dec 2022  #1376

Dieser verdammte Krieg ist nicht unser Krieg.

GottSeiDank!

and Germany is a reluctant US bi*tch

Na ja....globally the best choice available, I would say....the other options are not really enticing!

except that Russia is fighting for Russia

That's the thing....when you end up losing and your country in a worse situation than before....what then? Fighting for ones country should guarantee a better one in the end, shouldn't it?

Maybe a war is not the right way to fight for one's country generally...

cms neuf
4 Dec 2022  #1377

We will find other oil suppliers, already have.

We will use less - thanks for the nudge

We will find other kinds of fuel - already working on it

So you guys can drink your oil for all we care. Find other customers. Build pipelines and away you go.

Again Murderer Putin has bad intelligence and thought he could blackmail democracies with oil

In doing so he has permanently screwed your economy - might be a good thing in the end. Maybe you can build some other industries where it is more difficult for the profits to be stolen by the ruling classes

GefreiterKania
4 Dec 2022  #1378

GottSeiDank!

Ha! I always knew you were a believer, BB. :)

globally the best choice available

Exactly. What US-haters on this board seem not to notice is that America's allies are their allies out of their own free will. Nobody has ever forced anyone to apply to join the NATO, for example.

Maybe a war is not the right way to fight for one's country generally...

Words of wisdom spoken again - why can't they make YOU a German chancellor?

where it is more difficult for the profits to be stolen by the ruling classes

Don't underestimate their ability to steal, they are really good at it.

GefreiterKania
4 Dec 2022  #1379

Hey, Rich - check this out...

"Russia wasn't provoked. Russia wasn't threatened. Russia wasn't attacked. Instead, one man chose war. And Putin's war is not the result of NATO expansion. It is the cause of NATO expansion.", U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.

... wise words by a wise man. Read and learn...

ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3627260-putins-war-is-cause-not-result-of-nato-expansion-austin.html

Paulina
4 Dec 2022  #1380

Learn how to lie with an honest expression on the face?

Your Putin is one lucky guy - thanks to all that botox in his face he doesn't have to make an effort to keep a straight face when he's lying lol Plus the sheep-like RuSSian population that believes every word he says - his lies don't even have to make sense! He just has to start a war now and then - that's enough to make the RuSSian public happy and for him and his cronies to stay in power :) 🤦


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