Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

Poland is missing an opportunity to broker the end to this nonsense and to become a major player rather than just a recipient of an unsustainable number of refugees. But, as the history of Poland would suggest, being emotional and logical do not go together very well anywhere and especially in Poland. Instead, Poland has became the most bellicose member of NATO and to the exasperation of its more reasonable states like France and Germany.

Which is strange if we recall that Poland wisely folded in 1939 and 1944, and collaborated with the USSR for decades - all these events aimed at reducing or entirely avoiding casualties when the probability of success was too low to justify further losses.

More about Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, blah blah blah fvcking blah. Useless, unrelated, and nonsensical points that have nothing to do with the war started by Russia without provocation. Period. No provocation. Ukraine was told "no" on NATO membership. Now they are being told "yes eventually". Sweden and Finland have joined NATO. Russia is getting it's a$$ kicked in Ukraine, and now they don't even have enough people to manage the heating infrastructure of the land they occupy in Luhansk! Why? Because 25% of the people that managed the infrastructure for heating were killed when forced to go to the front lines. Fvcking idiots cant even plan ahead to keep the people warm they say they want to have in their country!

Poland is not missing any opportunity. After being under the boot of the USSR/Russia for decades, the country is becoming free as the old cronies die off. @Novichok your love of Russia is shared by no one here. And no one GAF about your "story" on how they helped you. You want to love on them, send them your retirement money so they can buy some electronics, oh wait, they cant.

Poland is not missing opportunity; they are taking advantage of it. They are arming the country to defend itself to an amazing level. They are training more volunteer soldiers than ever before, and they are leading the EU by example. Cutting ties with Russian fossil fuels first and drawing hard lines for the rest of the EU to support. Preparing for Belarus, who looks to be getting set up for a takeover by Putin in a non-military way. No one wants the Russian way, not even Belarus. No one trusts Russia, not even Russians. No one smart wants to save Russia because it will be permanently weakened by this war and their threat on the western world will be all but eliminated. It is a toothless old bear that exists now, and the delusions of grandeur Putin had for himself and Russia only exist now in his little mind. With that in mind, Mercedes car parts are now up 300% for those who still have a car in Moscow. Happy gulag mother fvckers!

Quoting:

"NATO is not to defend Europe from the Russian hoards, it's to control the global Energy System." ~Noam Chomsky


Bullsh*it. You have no evidence that Russia plans to attack Poland. Poland needs all that military junk as the US needs its new B-21.

@Novichok
No evidence? The immigration war that was started by proxy through Belarus? The gathering of Belarus and Russian forces in Belarus near the Polish border? The consistent threats made by Russia? Is Poland supposed to wait to arm itself like Ukraine waited and risk the same fate as Ukraine? I don't think so. That kind of thinking is what gets a lot of people killed by Orc's. As long as there is Russia, or other turd world dictatorships, everyone else needs to be locked, loaded and prepared. When those threats go away, then people can relax.

Xi is not a threat to Europe or the US, so China can continue to be China. Russia is a threat to the EU and by that a threat to the US. Russia should have been beaten down to nothing as soon as Yeltsin came to power. The west tried to build Russia up thinking it could become a real democracy and this is what the west got for trying to be nice and giving Russians the benefit of the doubt. So now, it is time to beat the country into submission slowly, painfully, and economically. Wait for the people or the military to take out Putin, or time to kill him, and then see what happens. Little Vlad has to die, or live in exile in Iran. But either way he has to go.

Say so long to Surrender Stan, now it's Kuba the Kollaborator (or would you prefer Clem the Collaborator)?

Don't fight military aggression... join the aggressors!

Ukraine's fate is decided in Washington, DC. Without Washington, DC, Ukraine is sh*it and so is Poland. So, relax and wait for the orders.


No. Just stop fighting before you get decapitated. Japs did.

Quoting:
Explosions rocked two Russian military airbases hundreds of miles from the border with Ukraine today, according to local officials and state media.
The unexplained blasts were reported at bases involved in launching attacks against Ukraine and came just hours before the latest barrage of Russian airstrikes forced residents in the capital, Kyiv, and cities across the country to take shelter as sirens blared.

About time in my opinion.

If it was a deliberate attack by Uks, Russia will (1) say sorry and go home or (2) respond in kind x10. Hmm...Let me ponder this for a moment...

What the US would do should be a clue. Google 9/11 and tall buildings.

Pathetic threats - Russia can't respond x10 because the Iranians won't sell you any more missiles and your own junk doesn't work.

In sad news Russian troops are dying of hypothermia in holding stations even before they arrive in Ukraine - won't be too long before we get a 21st century remake of that scene in Dr Zhivago where they turn on their officers

Why do you lie? Sad news? You and other Russia haters fake sadness only if Uks show what they staged as "Russia's war crimes" to get the Western idiots - sorry, donors - excited.


I know English and my last post well enough to see no threat. Tell me, my Polish genius, where in my post did you detect any threats?

Darling, stop twisting - you clearly spoke of RuSSia`s retaliation: Russia will (2) respond in kind x10.

All the tough talk ignores that Ukraine just hit two airbases in Russia with drones and then shot down more than 60 Russian missiles fired into Ukraine. Russia's tactical superiority in dying is once again on display. They really know how to get killed and now that impressive characteristic is showing up deep inside Russia. Amazing really. And new reports out of Ukraine have some Russian soldiers flipping on their bosses and joining the fight against Russia. How do you explain that happening to the Russian army? Shocking that anyone would want to turn on them after such beautiful treatment is provided to the little Orc's.

Now the Pig is making threats to US about activating alleged Wagner group people in the USA. As the US may name the Wagner group a terrorist organization. This once again goes to show how systemically stupid Russian leadership is. Any Wagner issue in the USA would result in the worlds second largest army, US citizens, hunting down and killing anyone remotely tied to Wagner. So, it looks as though, Bobko and the band of merry men could end up in deep $hit if the Pig has any say. All of this because little Vlad had a dream of rebuilding the USSR. Can not believe so many people are so stupid to follow this retard. Happy gulag biatches!

OK, let's see what Russia did so far...

1. Took over 15% of U's territory.
2. With it, 90% of U's natural resources as well as industrial output.
3. Made the Russian-speaking population safer.
4. Destroyed power stations and other critical-to-life objects.
5. Sent millions of Us to Poland and beyond.
6. Sent fuel prices in WE through the roof.
7. Made U unable to apply to NATO because of the "unresolved border issues".
8. Made U and the cost of reconstruction very unattractive to the EU.
9. Proved that sanctions don't deter.
10. Proved that sanctions bite back.
11. Proved that Us and Rs can coexist. See Crimea.
12. Proved that Z-P is not worth dying.
13. Proved that I am a genius and that Western and Polish volunteer heroes are world-class morons.

Conclusion: Russia is losing and ready to apologize. That's according to PF Russia-hating morons.

This is very good news. And the best part is how guarded they are about certain methods used.


Bluster from a war criminal who knows he faces the gallows.

Ukraine struck again today inside Russian territory with old converted Russian drones.
This has to upset Putin to no end.

@Novichok

Let's look at your list...

1. Not "took" but temporarily occupy.
2. For which they will have to pay huge reparations.
3. Population inside war zone is hardly safer than it was before the war.
4. For which they are rightly considered a terrorist state (and will have to pay huge reparations).
5. Sent 700,000 of their own running abroad from mobilization.
6. The price cap for Russian oil is $60 per barrel.
7. Only delayed the inevitable.
8. They will have to pay for most of the reconstruction themselves (see points 2 and 4).
9. The sanctions hurt their economy in almost every respect - in most Russian factories machines are Italian, Dutch, German even Czech - without spare parts those factories will practically stop functioning - it's already happening... youtube.com/watch?v=0kUSskRhdSs

10. Economically Russia is a herring - a herring can bite back against a shark but the final outcome is obvious.
11. They always coexisted, but Russian invasion incited so much hatred that it may not be possible in the future.
12. Ukrainians fight on their land and die for their country, Russians die for golden toilet bowls of their oligarchs.
13. Hardly. It only proved that personal bias is sometimes impossible to overcome. I am a Russophile too, but in this war I am on the right side.

Conclusion: when you make a list of 13 points, try to make sure that at least one of them is accurate.

My list consists of what has actually happened. Yours is full of wills, maybes, opinions, and speculations aka crap.

@Novichok
Ummmm yeah, it was once 25% you were braging about wasn't it? Please. Russia is a $hit pile. They are almost out of smart missiles. They are getting destroyed in the field and now getting their a$$es kicked on their own airfields in their own country. You bet on a loser. Take your losses go home and lick your wounds and look for another little dictator to pull for.

That sucking sound you hear is the wind going out of the Orc's sails as they are littered with machine gun fire. Happy gulag biatches!

The strikes are an extraordinary breach of Russia's assumptions that it can protect its deep interior, from which safe harbors its strategic bombers have caused carnage across Ukraine with relative impunity.

These are airbases very far inside Russia, and whatever the truth of the strikes, whether they represent a new long-distance drone capability Ukraine has advertised, or there's another explanation.....this is just not something that was meant to happen when Putin launched his "10-day invasion" in February.

Week by week, there are yet more signs that Moscow's military machine cannot do what it says on its can.

Now I know for sure that being Polish is a mental disorder that clouds the mind and distorts reality.

1. I never placed any bets.
2. I didn't suffer any losses.
3. I have no wounds to lick.
4. I am not pulling for anyone.

And all of this from just two short sentences. You are slipping, PAK.

@Novichok
No my friend, you bet on the wrong team with your comments. You supported the wrong side, the losing side. The number one team of dying if that is something to be proud of. Your statements and comments lead all to believe you simply do not get it.

Darling. keep your nice RuSSist list , however don`t forget there is a counter list of things that Ukraine and the West have already done to RuSSia and will still do if RuSSists persist. And those things can last for decades. What do you think, how long will RuSSist industry work on RuSSist- made parts and Chinese "electronics" ??? ):):)

You continue displaying your Polish mental defects. Normal people quote. Poles post their interpretations and conclusions, not facts, generously sprinkled with idiotic metaphors.

The only side I support is the US - out of fear that sh*itholes like Poland and Ukraine will drag us into another Euro nightmare.

Darling, in your earlier posts you claimed many times that Poland was unimportant and didn`t count. Now you suggest sth opposite. Can you decide at last on your true opinion??? Coz you sound very chaotic with this mental mess.

Back on topic edition 127

Comment on the net:
You know what I like about Polish deliveries? That first the equipment appears in Ukraine, and then it is announced. Some countries do things completely differently, announce deliveries and then fail to do so.

Ad rem:

Poland supplied its ex Soviet but thoroughly modernised air defence systems to Ukraine:

mil.in.ua/pl/news/polskie-s-125-newa-sc-juz-bronia-niebo-ukrainy/

Excellent! RuSSists, when you fall down from the skies like lame ducks, remember Poland! hahahaha

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What Russia has achieved

1. Trashed it's economy for ever
2. Shown it's army is a drunk fiasco, emboldening all the ex CCCP republics
3. Lost the Black Sea to Turkey and Romania
4. lost the Baltic to NATO
5. Lost the support of all the regional mini Putins - lots will end up like Kremousov or strung up from lamp posts
6. Lost McDonalds
7 become a client state of Iran
8. Become the only country on earth that is in debt to North Korea
9. Made some awesome amateur ****

I am pleased to see that, finally, the Polish posters learned by example how to say things simply and clearly. Good job, cms.

Exactly.
Are you still proud of your list and believe RuSSists are winning??? :):):)

with the knowledge that the price of oil has returned to its level from before the illegal invasion??

That is why your point


soon will be invalidated

Memo to PF posters with diminished ability to comprehend simple English:


In the post ending with the above quote, I did not claim that Russia is winning.
If you think like lawyers, read slowly, and do not infer or extrapolate beyond what is in front of you, many things here will become a lot clearer.

youtu.be/Nk7Wg0-hMs4

This video proves...

1. Ukraine is now on the full welfare of the American taxpayers. We are paying for everything.
2. Ukraine is run by thieves that steal 70% of what we stupidly send there.
3. Private donors are ultra-super world-class morons and define the meaning of useful tools better than anything else.
4. Zjew has no shame and forgot how to say please. Now he demands.
5. I am a genius.

BTW, for the ignorant PF idiots who love Ukraine but happily let the US pay the bills, that 90 billion bucks the US has designated for Uhole is more than Russia's annual military budget.