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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4



Korvinus
10 Dec 2022  #1501

Dozens of 'foreign mercenaries' killed in Ukraine - Russia

There are no mercenaries fighting for Ukraine. You can repeat the lie as often as you like, but all of the foreign volunteers are just that, foreign volunteers.

That is why Ukraine appreciates their assistance and recognizes it. Because they came to help Ukraine because they support the Ukrainian cause and Ukraine is grateful. It doesn't matter how Russia tries to denigrate them by implying their motivation is financial. I'm sure the Ukrainian military pay in the middle of a war is really high and would be worth risking life and limb for, LOL.

But if you feel they are mercenaries, why don't you provide some evidence or Ukraine targeting any foreigners to come join the Ukrainian military for financial compensation. There are certainly some poor countries where even a modest wage like what Ukraine pays would actually be quite tempting. Like say, Afghanistan. Got any evidence of Ukraine doing that? Because most of the foreign volunteers come from fairly well developed countries.

mafketis
10 Dec 2022  #1502

You can repeat the lie as often as you like

That's the russian way....

jon357
10 Dec 2022  #1503

There are no mercenaries fighting for Ukraine.

As opposed to r*SSia who are apparently recruiting Wagner mercenaries from gaols in the Central African Republic.

I'd say that I hope they bring warm clothes for the Ukrainian winter, however if I actually did say that it would be a lie.

pawian
10 Dec 2022  #1504

how Belarus offered to allow transport of grain from Ukraine

No, it is a trap. RuSSia will use Belarus connection to claim that Black Sea transport is not neceSSary and will block it altogether. Then Belarus will block its routes, too and Ukraine will be stranded.

PolAmKrakow
11 Dec 2022  #1505

As Russia continues to send hundreds to their death in Bahkmut, Ukraine is now sending HMARS and artillery to rain down on Melitopol. Melitopol is strategic for the Orc's supply lines. If Melitopol falls it is over for the Orc's defensive line and they could be completely overrun. As real winter sets in, those little Orc's are going to be freezing to death in the trenches.

The Orc's now attack Odessa. I wonder how it's going to go over when the payback is missiles raining down all over Crimea. It will take one or two small breaks in the Orc defensive lines and Ukraine can push all the way through to Crimea pretty easily. And if Melitopol falls, the Orc's will not be able to resupply and will have to retreat.

The Wagner Nazis keep sending wave after wave of men along the exact same lines toward positions in Bahkmut. Hundreds being sent to the meat grinder inn an attempt to identify Ukraine positions. This is Russia. Every life is just another body to be processed.

In other news little boy Vlad is said to be commissioning a new painting of himself riding shitless on a camel to be packed away just in case he needs to hang it in the mansion he is having built just outside of Tehran. Negotiations are said to be ongoing on whether or not he will be allowed to bring all of the Russian hoe's from Moscow who double as house cleaners. Another negotiation point is Vlad's conversion to Islam, and his wearing of a bathrobe in public. Happy gulag biatches!

Alien
11 Dec 2022  #1506

Vlad's conversion to Islam, and

I hope Muslims will never allow this.

Velund
11 Dec 2022  #1507

Abandon your hopes. Muslims love strong leaders. Especially ones that demonstrated ability to keep order inside country without cutting too much heads and to keep pants of US establishment wet without too much wars. ;)

mafketis
11 Dec 2022  #1508

Orc's now attack Odessa

I will never stop despising russia, russians (and their whole rotten culture) for their acceptance of putain's aggression.... totally inferior and pathetic... they have nothing of value to offer to the world (or even themselves which is why they're addicted to poverty, helplessness and violence).

Bratwurst Boy
11 Dec 2022  #1509

.....seriously....what would you do if an autocrat rises to power in your country? And starts making decisions you don't like?

mafketis
11 Dec 2022  #1510

What did Poles do in the communist period? What did Ukrainians do in 2004 and 2013?

Why can't moscow, a city of 10 or so million muster 100,000 people to protest at the same time? No way to arrest everyone.... the crowd can overcome the police....

Why aren't russians who fled the country not protesting?

russians are a horrible combination of cowardice, apathy and/or support for putain's genocidal ambitions

Bratwurst Boy
11 Dec 2022  #1511

What would YOU do?

mafketis
11 Dec 2022  #1512

Join the crowd.... if there's no crowd, find out why... try toc reate one.

What would YOU do?

Velund
11 Dec 2022  #1513

Why can't moscow

Moscow can. But it doesn't want to. The 1990's taught us a lot, and "Navalny's youngsters", who did not remember those times, quickly figured out what they were trained for and how they were "used," that many of them will now go and beat the crap out of libtards themselves.

And the cowards who ran away from mobilization... That's what cowards are. Contempt in the homeland, contempt abroad. A stranger here and a stranger there. Just like PAK... ;)

Tacitus
11 Dec 2022  #1514

The 1990s will soon look like paradise to contemporary Russians.

Velund
11 Dec 2022  #1515

will soon look like paradise

I think Germany will taste what was 1990's for Russians quite soon... ;)

Get back to the topic of this thread please

jon357
11 Dec 2022  #1516

I think Germany will taste what was 1990's for

I think r*SSia will taste what was August 1945 for Japan quite soon.

And in very good news, Ukraine have just flattened an orc barracks in r*SSia with a nice HIMARS blast.

More of this please!

johnny reb
11 Dec 2022  #1517

The German Armed Forces will begin preparations for the transfer of its Patriot anti-aircraft missile system to Poland as of Tuesday.
However, there were initial disagreements because Poland suggested that it would be better to hand over the weapon systems to Ukraine, even though they are part of NATO's integrated air defense, of which Kiev is not a member.

Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak explained that he accepted "with disappointment" the German reluctance to place this system on Ukrainian territory.
The Germans don't want to rock the boat with Putin, let Poland do the dirty work.

Cojestdocholery
11 Dec 2022  #1518

do you think they will make it before 2026?

PolAmKrakow
11 Dec 2022  #1519

@Velund
Hardly a coward. You are invited to Krakow to find out. Have no contempt for Poland or the USA, I love both countries. I do have contempt for politicians in both countries, as a taxpayer and citizen of both, it is my right to have those feelings. I also have family in both countries, so I am no stranger. You on the other hand are neither a citizen or taxpayer in Ukraine and have no right to anything in Ukraine. But still like the rest of the Orc's you want to talk talk talk about Ukraine not treating Orcs nicely. Too bad, they should leave and live in Russia, problem solved.

Big round of applause though for the Ukraine army that hit an Orc barracks today and whacked 200 Orc's in one HMAR shot. Now that is some efficient killing. Maybe the Orcs should send Ukraine a thank you note for keeping Russia #1 in the category of dying soldiers.

Velund
11 Dec 2022  #1520

have no right to anything in Ukraine

It is not for you, psja krew, to decide what I have a right to in the land where my ancestors lived centuries before the Austro-Hungarian counterintelligence jerked up the "Ukraine" project.

The Galician dung-beaters who force people to pray to their bastard Nazi gods will get their own plot of Russian land, one meter by two meters and two meters deep. And no more than that.

jon357
11 Dec 2022  #1521

neither a citizen or taxpayer in Ukraine and have no right to anything in Ukraine

Quite. It's none of his business, and as a r*SSian, he doesn't even support its independence.

the Ukraine army that hit an Orc barracks today and whacked 200 Orc's in one HMAR shot.

Great news, and we'll certainly be seeing a lot more of this.

mafketis
11 Dec 2022  #1522

where my ancestors lived centuries before

where you ancestors lived is completely irrelevant to questions concerning the modern country of Ukraine....

russia out of every square milimeter of Ukraine now! the longer you stay there the worse the result will be for russia... and you'll still lick the boots that kick you in the face because russians are cowards against power

PolAmKrakow
11 Dec 2022  #1523

@Velund
Your ancestors centuries ago? Like the ancestral claims that Hitler had more or less. Your army of drunk pu$$ies cant even beat little Ukraine. All Russians are the same. Little punks when they get punched in the mouth. Every Russian in Ukraine is currently getting their piece of land two meters by one meter by two meters deep. Exactly where they stand they die and can rot there. You and every other Russian is nothing more than a numbered piece of meat. Celebrate that with your ancestral claims.

GefreiterKania
11 Dec 2022  #1524

Austro-Hungarian counterintelligence jerked up the "Ukraine" project

...in the lands stolen by Austria in the partitions of Rzeczpospolita (in which Russia, like a vulture, took eager part). Vienna's divide et impera actions were aimed against Poles, to make sure that Poland is never again reborn. Of course, when rabid Ukrainian nationalism flourished, Jews and Russians were also hit with a ricochet, but it was originally aimed at Poland.

All this, however, is as relevant today as the outcome of 1612 campaign. We can only regret that things happened as they did but we can't turn back time. The question today is: how long will Russia insist on continuing the war that they can't win?

Tacitus
11 Dec 2022  #1525

Vladimir Putin 'allocating over 30% of entire budget on defence' as cost of Ukraine war weighs on Russia

google.com/amp/s/standard.co.uk/news/world/russia-putin-defence-budget-ukraine-war-ministry-of-defence-b1046383.html%3famp

Imagine if Russia invested that additional money in, I don't know, giving all of its' people access to indoor plumbing. But that would depend on the Russian leadership actually being interested in improving the life of their people. Instead they waste it on getting Russians killed and maimed with the slim hope of retaining some -depopulated and heavily destroyed - territory. Because clearly, more territory is what Russia truly needs... .

pawian
11 Dec 2022  #1526

Because clearly, more territory is what Russia truly needs... .

That has been the RuSSian madness for centuries. They are so scared of being under Tatar yoke again that they feel the urge to prevent it by conquering the whole world if possible.

Fortunately the West said no. RuSSians, high time you got a treatment

Miloslaw
11 Dec 2022  #1527

with the slim hope of retaining some -depopulated and heavily destroyed - territory. Because clearly, more territory is what Russia truly needs...

It's quite insane isn't it?

Fortunately the West said no. RuSSians, high time you got a treatment

So true.they need medical and mental help.

jon357
12 Dec 2022  #1528

Imagine if Russia invested that additional money in

Another reason why it's so important to starve them od oil/gas revenue, both now and for decades in the futire.

PolAmKrakow
12 Dec 2022  #1529

@Tacitus
This is the Russian way. So desperate for attention, so desperate to be recognized for something, they think war is something to be glorified. And they are losing the war they started. Glorify that how? The country needs to be beaten into a submission financially, Putin removed from power, and if possible, broken up. Then China can go in and feast on the carcass in Siberia and Europe can over the course of 30 years or so, change the mentality of traditional Russians and integrate them more into Europe. It only takes one bullet to start sweeping changes.

GefreiterKania
12 Dec 2022  #1530

China and their current model will collapse in a few years (as China has many times before

So what happens if Russia collapses and China collapses? We live in interesting times.

russia which needs to keep most of the population in grinding poverty

Do you have links to Galeev's articles about it? I would gladly read it; Russia is a weirdly fascinating country.


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