Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

I hope the armchair generals in Poland wake up and understand that.

Polish General Waldemar Skrzypczak sort of continued the theme raised by Bulgarian President Radev about what Western countries should do when the mobilization potential in Ukraine begins to fade. In his opinion, the West missed the moment when mass arms transfers could have changed the course of hostilities, and now it is necessary to prepare for a protracted and exhausting war. Well, in order to delay as far as possible the issue of sending Poles themselves to the eastern front with Bulgarians and other warriors from the Threebaltia, Skrzypczak strongly recommends (wpolityce.pl/swiat/630314-gen-skrzypczakczy-zachod-czeka-az-wszyscy-ukraincy-zgina) to start catching men who escaped from Ukraine from mobilization and to form fresh army units from them for the war against Russia already now:

"Together with NATO we should start training new Ukrainian army formations - in Poland, Germany and France. Train those Ukrainian citizens who are here - mobilize, train, assign, send to the front, because Ukraine is getting harder and harder.

As for Ukrainian citizens living in NATO countries, including Poland, those who wanted to fight at the front are already in Ukraine. And now we are going to ask them, do they want to be soldiers or not? We have to mobilize, conscript, and that's it."

And here the Polish general has his own definite logic. Firstly, to secure Polish men from the bloody meat grinder in the war with Russia, and secondly, why are Ukrainian men needed at all in Western Europe? Women with children are needed to improve the demographics, and let the men go die for a bright European future.

I'd prefer it if russian men were the ones doing the dying... for the future of the planet.

120,000 down.... almost 25% of what's needed for russia to sue for peace (according to Zeihan)..... let's step things up....

The ladas are no more.... now it's just a set of towels..... by the time we reach 400,000 there will just be email notifications with gifs playing sad music....

twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1597377296671051776

Why is there a definite date when better weapons become useless? All through the war the introduction of new tech like Pioruns and HIMARs has had an effect.

The same will be the case when your undisciplined troops see attack tanks for the first time. I am sure the Russians are too drunk and lazy to dig proper defenses so it is going to come as quite a shock to them

Do you morons realize what is at stake here? No, it's not about "freedom" and "democracy". It's about the US swamp getting fatter and trying to get Russia weaker at the same time. Ukraine and the useful idiots there are just "expendable" nothings.

Only super morons like some of you would claim that Putin is nuts and, at the same time, like the idea of driving him into a corner with your Leopards.

But, this being a Polish forum, I am not surprised.


What they mean is that Putin and Russia don't value somebody else's life but will value theirs so they can safely play heroes.

Some people forget history and never grow up. Poland is the best example of that mental disorder. Even Western Europe has had it with them but for a moment finds them useful. Fu*cking embarrassing.

Yes. I'm in Poland unlike you mr. chicken qua qua qua


Ideas you hate....


giving in is just asking for 20-30 years more of russian aggression against its neighbors.... do you have any idea how to keep russians from invading other countries?

chicken appeaser who thinks giving in to crazy people making crazy demands is the road to security.....

Oh yeah? So what should we do differently, Novi?

Not help the millions Ukrainians who were fleeing from war? What kind of people do you think we are?
Not try to use all diplomatic/economic means to weaken Russia before they attack us (because Putin definitely wouldn't stop with Ukraine)?
Not help Ukrainian army with training and weapons, when it is our country that's next on Putin's list? What kind of idiots would we have to be?

In fact, Poland is doing everything absolutely perfectly in this conflict (well, maybe we should send a bit more weapons - but WE WILL as soon as the Korean and American stuff that we bought arrives). At this moment Poland and Ukraine are like two sisters...



... fighting the same eternal enemy who always tried to enslave us, and YES fighting for freedom and democracy (as much as you may hate those words). As for constant Russian threats with rockets and whatnot, we can only sing the lovely Polish football fans song:

Rakiety TU! Rakiety TAM!
Rakiety chuja zrobią nam,
la-la-la, la la la la LA,
Rakiety chuja zrobią nam!

He, he :)

@Novichok
You are not "American" if you don't want a weaker Russia. You are a traitor living in a country that gave you shelter from these Russian POS if your story is to be believed. No one is afraid of your little fag Vald that you worship. Nukes bla bla bla. Russia cannot beat little Ukraine and people think Poland should be afraid of Russia? For what? Fvck Russia and all you baitches that continue to praise the POS country and its leader. All of you need to have all your freedoms taken from you and expelled from the US directly to Siberia.

The late Vladimir Zhirinovsky predicted that Poland and Ukraine are in the zone of risk, that on their territory NATO will impose a war against Russia

*(first 3 minutes of the Serbian geopolitical TV show - "Aktuelnosti" )

youtu.be/yT7KmSc0bd0

AKTUELNOSTI - Germans and Poles protest against sending heavy weapons to Ukraine - (21.01.2023)

Thanks God we have such excellent analysts therefore we are much better informed unlike in Poland and in the West where there is a total media darkness where strict censorship was introduced and the people are being brainwashed by a relentless wave of propaganda.

Some key points (in English) from Aktuelnosti

1h.20min. - NATO meeting in Rammstein, introduction to WWIII?

1h.28min. - about US ambitions to replace Russian weapons with their own.

1:57:30 - English actor Russell Brand about the symbolism of German tanks in historical battles which are being forgotten.

2:29:30 - American politician and former basketball player Bradley talks about American-Russian politics and the fundamental mistake

2h.43min. - analysis by ex-US colonel Douglas Macgregor

2:51:20 - American economist Jeffrey Sachs about the instruments of power

Excuse me, but where are those protests of Poles "against sending heavy weapons to Ukraine"? :D Any links?

This invasion is making USA stronger than ever and Russia weaker than ever...


Like 99% of South American lefitists who hate USA blaming them for the failure of their stupid ideas which ruined every single country that is implemented. Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world and most people there are malnourished. Cuba used to have more Americans and Europeans living there than Cubans abroad and now, not even Haitians wanna live there. And Argentina? From as wealthy as USA into a country which is only marginally less awful than Brazil. Yet instead of learning from their mistakes, they rather blame USA for their stupid ideas.

Stick to the topic of the thread please

And soon defragmentarised.

Decent Russians speak:

Former Russian vice-president Aleksandr Rutskoy criticized the decision of the Russian army to attack Ukraine's civilian infrastructure. - Is this denazification? What is this? Did anyone think when planning this nonsense? Ruckoj asked in one of the interviews. "Let's take the average person now. Living in an apartment with two or three children. An apartment without electricity, heating, water and sewage. And what? Would they like Russia and the Russian army? he continued. - This is a deliberate act against us. Whoever planned it. This is treason. It turns people against our country, against our army. Why did they hit cities and power plants? For what? he said.


:):):)

Only in those propagandists` minds. It is called rich imagination. :):):)


:):):)

youtu.be/yT7KmSc0bd0

3:07:20

You can even see Poles stepping on a Ukrainian flag.

And these two Ruskies in a creepy room are supposed to be Poles why?

We also NEED to offload the PT91s and Leopards when we get our Abrams and K2s because otherwise we will have 4-5 tank types... the donation of Leos and PT91s was predictable for a loong time.

Stop lying. Those two hoodlums aren`t Polish. And the rally of a few dozen Poles didn`t have anything in common with Ukraine.
AmaSSing you resort to such silly lies which can be easily debunked.

PS. I see Serbian media brainwash viewers like Russian ones do.

english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hundreds-protest-poland-involvement-in-ukraine-war-in-warsaw

Demonstrators in Poland took to the streets of the capital to protest their country's involvement in Ukraine.

The participants, carrying Polish flags and banners with the slogans "Who wants Polish blood, get out!", "Poland chooses peace!", gathered in downtown Warsaw and marched toward Sigismund's Column.

The organizers of the march issued a statement expressing their dissatisfaction with what they see as "Polish-language politicians and the Polish-language media pounding into the heads and hearts of Poles with pro-war propaganda."

"Peace should reign in Poland," the statement said. Those encouraging Polish citizens to participate in the Ukraine war "must be brought to justice."

twitter.com/newsistaan/status/1616861766646136834

A rally against #Poland's involvement in the war with #Russia takes place in Warsaw.

tass.com/world/1565381

Rally 'This is Not Our War' against Poland's meddling in Ukraine conflict held in Warsaw

Not yet, coz Poles are trying to arrange another deal of replacement tanks. When we delivered our 230 ex Soviet tanks, the US and the EU rewarded us with a good offer of cheap 100 Abrams from US army storage..

Indeed, there was a demo but it was somehow skipped by major media as unimportant.
Why?


Not hundreds, just one hundred and fifty. :):) While Warsaw has nearly 2 million residents. Count the ratio. :):)

And they were radical nationalists whose views are rejected by 98% Poles.

That is why I didn`t know about it, so you weren`t lying, in fact. I am sorry. :):):)

However, you were lying about those two hoodlums. :):):)

This sounds as if there were some big protests in the streets of Warsaw, while this was a small protest organised by some kind of "kamrat association" (I've never even heard of them before) and it wasn't against sending heavy weaponry to Ukraine in particular, but against general involvement of Poland in this war:

bydgoszcz.wyborcza.pl/bydgoszcz/7,48722,29386246,proputinowski-marsz-kamratow-przeszedl-ulicami-warszawy-lzono.html

The protestors were aggressive, violent and they were offending Ukrainians and Jews, so it sounds like they are your type of "kamrats" lol

But thanks for pointing this out, Crnogorac3, because you know what this proves? That there is democracy and freedom of speech in Poland. In RuSSia such anti-war protests are forbidden.

Btw, what the hell is this about?:


Aren't those protestors Polish-language speakers? lol o_O Strange people... 😂

That`s what some PiS and nationalists and other radical rightists imply about their enemies: they only speak Polish but aren`t Polish in fact. PiS used it a lot about TVN etc.


Neither did I. :):) Amassing guys.

Russia and West on verge of 'real war' - Lavrov
Moscow's adversaries have long aimed to destroy everything Russian, the FM has said

The current situation in Ukraine demonstrates that the conflict between Russia and the West can no longer be defined as a "hybrid war" but is instead approaching becoming a real one, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Monday.

That's how Russia sees it and the rest, including PF crap about dead babies, raped women, PiS, and the rest of Poland mean sh*it.

Pure and utter bollox!
Russia is in no state to take on the West right now.....it's almost laughable!!!!

"Ukraine will pay if Germany sends tanks"

youtu.be/JW4tJlpkpxY

I wonder why Russia is so fixated on Germans helping Ukrainians kill Russians. Really puzzling...

It would probably be really a good compromise for all if the tanks come (so Ukraine can defend itself) but not from Germany directly (no Germans killing Russians again....at least not directly).

(I yesterday read from some author who invoked the mental image of panzers with the famous Iron Cross destroying the same towns, killing sometimes the same people as a few decades back...it was abit uncomfortable, to say at least!)

Yes, it looks like it will come to that....Poland (+others) will get the clearance to send their Leopards (if from Scholz or his successor in the Chancellory I dunno though).

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Stop being such as total pvssy and patsy...... russians are lying cowards and lavror (the human horse tvrd) has said the same thing about 1785 times before, but _now_ he's serious.... you are soooooo gullible (or so desperate that repost russian nonsense for money which is only slightly less pathetic)

🚨BREAKING🚨Zelensky sends video address to Joe Biden begging him to pressure Olaf Scholz to send some Leopards to Ukraine.

t.me/DonbassDevushka/42057

😂

@Crnogorac3
In real news in the real war, Ukraine killed another 690 Orcs who are illegally in Ukraine. In related news, the local wild dog and wolf populations are said to be having an easy winter and there will be no starvation die off thanks to the Orcs donation of themselves into the ecosystem. Funny how Putin by mistake did some good for these animals. Bravo! Russia is still number one in the world when it comes to dying! Happy gulag biatches!

Javelin, Bayraktar, M777 Howitzer, Himars....Leopard, Abrams

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t.me/trupvsy/11257

youtu.be/hxgsdi5z00c

Liquidation and meat processing of Orcs courtesy of HMARS. Get your marshmellows out!