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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4



Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2701

Now it's happening:

Leopard tanks for Ukraine - Poland submits application to federal government

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-polen-stellt-antrag-bei-bundesregierung-fuer-leopard-lieferung-a-25a13868-bc46-4a7a-80ae-9982c37316ad

Now Chancellor Scholz has to make a decision: Poland wants to deliver battle tanks to Ukraine - but is dependent on permission from Germany. The application is now officially received in Berlin, according to Warsaw. ....

twitter.com/mblaszczak/status/1617816715500425216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1617816715500425216%7Ctwgr%5Ee39ae11784e85ee2b33a3418393c5696033dbec7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fspiegel.de%2Fausland%2Fukraine-krieg-polen-stellt-antrag-bei-bundesregierung-fuer-leopard-lieferung-a-25a13868-bc46-4a7a-80ae-9982c37316ad

Decision time!

...Federal Defense Minister Boris Pistorius ( SPD ) has announced that Germany will take a quick decision on the delivery of Leopard main battle tanks to Ukraine. "I expect that a decision will be made shortly," Pistorius told journalists on Tuesday morning after a meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg in Berlin. He had "expressly encouraged" other partner countries that already had battle tanks of this model to start training Ukrainian soldiers on them. ....

Aha!

amiga500
24 Jan 2023  #2702

Now it's happening:

Decision time!

Don't be silly, Germany will need an detailed inventory report of tanks and parts from Poland, which will have to be analysed by the experts in Berlin. Also the tank upholstery contain fibres from the Quercus Krautus, an ancient oak only found in the black forest that is endangered. There will have to be an enviroment impact assessment completed to determine if the transfer of tanks to Ukraine threatens this precious tree.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2703

....nah.....the main point is there is no Iron Cross on these tanks!

What is actually on the polish Leopards? What is the polish national emblem?

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2704

Update:

Kremlin warns Germany against supplying tanks to Ukraine

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-news-am-dienstag-selenskyj-entlaesst-vizechef-seines-praesidentenbueros-a-8eec7685-27e8-4087-ae91-4395674c6175

11:25 a.m .: The Kremlin has warned of a further deterioration in German-Russian relations should the federal government have Leopard main battle tanks delivered to Ukraine. "Such deliveries do not bode well for the future of relations," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, according to the Russian news agency Ria Novosti. They would leave inevitable traces. Relations are already at a low point.

There is currently no dialogue either with Berlin or with other EU and NATO countries, said Peskow. In the past, Moscow had repeatedly criticized Western arms deliveries to Ukraine as an escalation in the war. Last week, however, the spokesman for Kremlin chief Vladimir Putin also said that even Western battle tanks could not prevent Russia from achieving its war goals. In his view, they would only prolong the suffering of civilians. ...


Ach ja....there was that:

Announcement by Defense Minister Pistorius

Leopard tank inventory check coming soon

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ukraine-krieg-bestandspruefung-zu-leopard-panzern-liegt-in-kuerze-vor-a-1071e1f4-c410-42a0-ae76-a460934f7972

It should soon be clear how many Leopard tanks Germany could send to Ukraine. If the Chancellor agrees to deliveries, Boris Pistorius wants to be able to act quickly. ...

PolAmKrakow
24 Jan 2023  #2705

Ukraine soldiers are already being trained on Leopards. Before this time next month they should be rolling over Orcs, literally and figuratively. 300 of these or more would make little Vlad $hit himself.

In other news, Wagner group is said to be down to about 10,000 men from 50,000. Imagine all the tanks just rolling through Soledar and taking back all the land these idiots just died for in a matter of days. Throw in the new PATRIOT systems and negate all those Orc missiles, and you got a lot more dying about to happen. Russia is still after all the world leader in dying. Amazing how they find so many opportunities to hold on to the title.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2706

@PolAmKrakow

Which national emblem is on the polish tanks? Is it the eagle?

Alien
24 Jan 2023  #2707

@Bratwurst Boy
Red and white chess board.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2708

Thanks...sounds abit croatian?

GefreiterKania
24 Jan 2023  #2709

Red and white chess board.
@ Alien

Not since 2009, Alien. These days only faded regimental symbols are allowed on line battle tanks.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2710

Does that mean I wouldn't know that there is a polish tank when I see one???

GefreiterKania
24 Jan 2023  #2711

No, if you're not a specialist, you wouldn't. Modern camouflage regulations apparently; and tank identification on modern battlefields is done electronically anyway.

Besides, it will be VERY easy soon: if you see K2 in Europe it can only be Polish; if you see Abrams it can only be American or Polish (but Poland has different camouflage colours, so it would be apparent whose tank it is right away). All the Ts and Leos will go to Ukraine eventually, and we will have only two types of MBTs.

PolAmKrakow
24 Jan 2023  #2712

I did a google image search and all I could find were some Polish tanks in drills with Polish flags flying, or no markings at all. It wont matter, the Orcs dont have them so it will easy for them to identify which tanks will be killing them.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2713

....they will be soon in the news I guess....so we will know! :)

Crnogorac3
24 Jan 2023  #2714

t.me/intelslava/43706

18+

Here is how the British train them during those two weeks of training. This poor fellow started heading along the trench and knew that a ready Russian soldier was waiting for him just around the corner. He paid for his mistake with his head.

Terminator

youtu.be/CbXjBNgpUzE

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2715

Just in:

USA allegedly tend to supply Abrams tanks

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-news-am-dienstag-selenskyj-entlaesst-vizechef-seines-praesidentenbueros-a-8eec7685-27e8-4087-ae91-4395674c6175

According to reports, the US could agree to the delivery of main battle tanks to Kyiv. According to the Wall Street Journal, an agreement was reached with Berlin to pass on its own Leopard tanks. And: According to Bloomberg Media, Poland could be given the go-ahead for the export of German tanks tomorrow.

Report: Scholz will give Poland permission for Leopard delivery

5:25 p.m .: According to a report by the media company Bloomberg, Chancellor Olaf Scholz is expected to give Poland permission tomorrow to transfer Leopard tanks to Ukraine. In its report, Bloomberg refers to an unnamed source who is familiar with the process.


That should be it!

PS: Is there a mole in our defense ministry???

Crnogorac3
24 Jan 2023  #2716

some smart Poles. too bad they are in the minority

POLISH PEOPLE PROTEST IN WARSAW: "THIS IS NOT OUR WAR!"

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/MfRchMWO1jm0/

UKROP THUGS TERRORIZE RUSSIAN MAN IN CANADA

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/3IHT6LWCaKNz/

Korvinus
24 Jan 2023  #2717

Source from Russia confirms sad fate of prisoners that got recruited by Wagner:

understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-january-23-2023

Head of the independent Russian human rights organization "Rus Sidyashchaya" (Russia Behind Bars) Olga Romanova claimed on January 23 that out of the assessed 50,000 prisoners that Wagner has recruited, only 10,000 are fighting on frontlines in Ukraine due to high casualty, surrender, and desertion rates.

It's almost like prisoners don't make fine soldiers, just cheap cannon fodder.

Crnogorac3
24 Jan 2023  #2718

UKROIDS IN BAKHMUT MUTINY - SAY COMMANDER TURNED OFF STARLINK TO PREVENT CONTACT WITH RELATIVES

Video with the whining of another (it is called illegibly) part in Bakhmut. They say that there is no necessary training, and the losses are high. And new: the commanders selected the Starlink so that the soldiers would not contact their relatives

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/pIlC72KXRub4/

HORRIFIC SCENES 18+ AFU CELL DESTROYED BY GRENADES OF 150TH DIVISION RUSSIAN TROOPS IN MARYINSKY

"🇬🇧Shots of the destruction of a group of dill with the help of small arms fire and grenades by soldiers of the 150th division in the Maryinsky direction."

2nd Video Shows Chechens clearing Out AFU positions.


WATCH

bitchute.com/video/iJdnnphO7SfL/

ARESTOVICH ADMITS RUSSIA'S FIRST PHASE WAS DELIBERATELY "SOFT" - DIDN'T WANT TO HURT MANY PEOPLE

Well, now phase 2 is starting and Russia is done playing games.

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/jWHYHthzz1AI/

COLONEL MACGREGOR GIVES AN UPDATE ON AFU LOSSES

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/tEE1qhr0UZ6h/

Tacitus
24 Jan 2023  #2719

Breaking. Germany decides to send Leopards to Ukraine from Bundeswehr stocks according to Der Spiegel. Nothing official yet though.

Deutschland schickt Leopard-Panzer in die Ukraine

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/krieg-in-der-ukraine-deutschland-schickt-leopard-panzer-a-e2dde871-88d0-4cf5-8aae-482d58fd850f

Paulina
24 Jan 2023  #2720

@Bratwurst Boy, Tacitus, thanks for all the info! I'll start celebrating though once it's official and I'll actually see it happening...

waiting

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2721

I'll start celebrating though once it's official and I'll actually see it happening...

Yeah....I want to hear the words! (Or see the paper, heh:)

Well....

BREAKING:

President Duda announces that Poland will transfer 14 Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1613181488341700613

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2722

.....ooookaaaay.....it seems that was a premature post by Duda....not an actual one....

The Ukrainians seem to be happy, now not only getting Leopards but Abrams too!

PolAmKrakow
24 Jan 2023  #2723

USA to send some Abrams tanks to Ukraine. Will be announced this week. Ummmmm yeah, that really loud noise was every POS Russian saying WE'RE FVCKED NOW!!!!!! Even if these Abrams are set back from the main events they are accurate up to 2500 meters when the rest of the worlds best tanks are only good at 2000 meters. Thats a lot of dead Orcs from long distance. Happy gulag you dumb mother fvckers! LMFAO

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2724

Just in:

Germany sends Leopard tanks to Ukraine

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/krieg-in-der-ukraine-deutschland-schickt-leopard-panzer-a-e2dde871-88d0-4cf5-8aae-482d58fd850f

After months of debate, Chancellor Scholz decided to deliver battle tanks to Ukraine.

The decision is made!

The decision has been made: Germany will deliver Leopard 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine. According to SPIEGEL information, at least one Leopard 2A6 company is involved.

Other allies, including from Scandinavia, also want to deliver Leopard 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine. The federal government wants to grant permission to export such tanks that are owned by other states such as Poland.

...

According to SPIEGEL information, the German Leopard tanks are said to come from Bundeswehr stocks. In the medium to long term, other battle tanks from industry stocks could be prepared for use. ....


Frontpage Spiegel just now:

spiegel.de/

Crnogorac3
24 Jan 2023  #2725

Chaos and disorder among ukrop lines

Ukrainian government continues its purge....
The Cabinet of Ministers Fired:

- Vyacheslav Shapovalov - Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine;
- Ivan Lukeria - Deputy Minister of Communities and Territories Development of Ukraine;
- Vyacheslav Negodu - Deputy Minister of Development of Communities and Territories of Ukraine;
- Vitaly Muzychenko - Deputy Minister of Social Policy of Ukraine.

Also fired:

- Valentin Reznichenko - head of the Dnepropetrovsk OVA;
- Oleksandr Starukh - head of the Zaporozhye OVA;
- Aleksey Kuleba - head of the Kiev OVA;
- Dmitry Zhivitsky - head of the Sumy OVA;
- Yaroslav Yanushevich is the head of the Kherson OVA.

t.me/DonbassDevushka/42120

🇺🇦After a series of resignations, the Ukrainian media report on the possible departure of Prime Minister Shmyhal

t.me/DonbassDevushka/42126

mafketis
24 Jan 2023  #2726

russia debuts it's 'carried the wounded on horseback' system....

It goes..... about like you'd expect from russians.....

twitter.com/maxfras/status/1617644776760954882

GefreiterKania
24 Jan 2023  #2727

Chancellor Scholz decided to deliver battle tanks to Ukraine. The decision is made!

Yes!!! Well done to German hackers who broke into Russian servers and deleted all the kompromat!

Or maybe, just maybe, Scholz finally understood that he has to get his finger out if he wants to keep his job. Either way, I'm happy :)

Tacitus
24 Jan 2023  #2728

That was probably tied to the Americans sending tanks as well.

Crnogorac3
24 Jan 2023  #2729

Thats a lot of dead Orcs from long distance. Happy gulag you dumb mother fvckers! LMFAO

I think that this brainwashed russophobe is ripe for a tranquilizer and taking his meds. What does moderation say about that?

Bratwurst Boy
24 Jan 2023  #2730

....and deleted all the kompromat!

....you won't believe it but on Twitter I read lotsa posts congrulating Scholz for his genius! With that deal he provides Ukraine not only with Leopards but with american Abrams as well, something which could have far reaching consequences in the case of a nuclear threat by Putin...not that I understand everything but it seems with these Abrams the US nuclear shield would reach over and across Central Europe!

Could it be that Scholz was after the whole time???


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