Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

Did you notice how difficult it is to reason with children pretending to be adults? To them, everything is either black or white, good or evil, and a mall Santa is never a child molester.

The MR pact was an attempt to keep the Soviet Union safe - an unforgettable and unforgivable sin to a Pole.
Hey, Poles, wars are hell.


And the award for the stupidest post today goes to a woman. I really mean it. Russia-hating guys seldom hit your level.

@Bobko
I enjoy the history but today is not matching up as much as you are saying. Z and his generals are publicly telling everyone to lower their expectations for the spring offensive. They are publicly saying that it will not be like last year when they rolled through and regained all that territory. While history is what it is, Ukraine is not making those same mistakes. Most people are already saying that the very beginning of the counter offensive has already begun.

@Novichok
fvcking spell autocorrect. Thanks for the grammar ticket though.

That's one reason why I avoid them and don't admit that I am one of them. The shallowness of these people is beyond embarrassing.

It looks that hating Russia is a religion and the 11th commandment to them.


In the future, because you are brilliant elsewhere, I will correct your errors to make you look good. I hope you don't mind.

I've noticed, yes. The defining characteristic of a fanatic, is his secret doubt.

We can see the US presswhores in retreat, too.

@Bobko
Interesting, was he NKVD? Top member of the red party joint clapping comitee?

Otherwise I find it unlikely, unless he perpetrated some forms of crimes

I think it's probably time to face the truth - the West and RuSSia are too different. Even Poles and RuSSians are too different even though we're Slavs. It looks like we don't belong together. That doesn't mean we have to make wars though. So what's wrong with you??


You mean Putin who's ready to KILL "his own people" in order to "SAVE" them?? :D

North Koreans, Iran, China... the worst governments in the world unite with russia!

If russians had any self-awareness they would burst into flames....

Amen.

We will build a new world, on your rotten corpses.

@Bobko, wow, you're sick in the head... A true RuSSian in a nutshell o_O'

@Paulina

Only as sick as you, girl.

@Bobko, no, I don't want to build a new world on rotten RuSSian corpses, psycho. So what on Earth are you talking about??

Really? You don't want Russia to break up into 15 national republics? You don't want Russia to experience a total collapse, which wakes it up to the "error in its ways"? You don't talk here daily about how our system is hollowed out and bankrupt - awaiting collapse?

@Bobko
Doesn't sound like any reason to hate, dislike or being generally mean regarding your family members.


Well unless one writes something like that, it can provoke negative attitudes for sure... Regardless of family behaviour and mostly used as a punching bag.

With regard to Russia breaking up to 15 republics, what is the most reasonable way for Russia to not wage wars outside it's borders?

I think you've mistaken me with pawian and maybe some other people :)))

The primary thing I want is for RuSSian troops to withdraw from Ukraine and for this war to end.

It's Putin who keeps sending your boys to senseless death, so it's him who clearly doesn't mind rotting RuSSian corpses piling up. What's more, it doesn't look like it bothers you that much either.

I just want russia to stop invading other countries and killing people.... if total collapse is what it takes then..... yeah, total collapse.

collective narcissistic wound - and true to form the more the world rejects the awful and nasty russian 'culture' the more consumed with rage and desire for violence you become

you could have had a peaceful future, not prosperous since you love thieves who steal from you and leave you in stinking poverty, but peaceful.

That's over.

russia is like a mad dog.... what do we do to mad dogs?

Russians are friends to all that come to us with an olive branch.

@Bobko, no, RuSSians are "friends" to those who do what RuSSians want them to do (no matter if it's sane or reasonable). And that's only until they see it to be in RuSSia's interest.

Another idiotic Polish post full of metaphors and innuendos. It's so pathetic that it is immune to fact-based responses - a great Polish debating method.


...just as the US if it redefined what "defending democracy" means. No, you don't defend American "democracy" 10,000 miles away.
Russia is defending itself from the Yugoslav unhappy outcome from 0 miles. A much more compelling case...


You are a true genius and discoverer of the Ultimate Truth - a country acting in its best interest. Wow!
My suggestion: quit digging.

You're a smart guy, Bobi. Don't you ever stop and ask yourself a question: why? Why almost everybody in the world wants nothing to do with you? Not only the West but also your former "friends and allies" (especially they) want nothing better than for Russia to f*ck off and stay away (it's not like you lack space to f*ck off to - 17 million kilometres is quite enough for the decreasing population of about 140 million people)? Don't you feel like - at least sometimes - solving this intriguing riddle?

Great riddles - worth solving just for the sake of it...

Why does still relatively poor Poland want to spent c*ntillions of dollars on weapons we can't afford just to make sure we never have to have anything to do with you ever again?

Why does even Czechia - a great nation but courage cannot be said to be one of their most characteristic traits - send tons of equipment to Ukraine and talks about the necessity of stopping Russian imperialism?

Why have even Germans - who for all these years were convincing everyone that you have finally become a normal country and a reliable partner, and were willing to pump your pockets full of euros, even at the cost of their EU neighbours and despite their warnings - become one of the major sources of help for Ukraine?


Well, good luck with that.

But it begs the question - what new world? The new world that looks like Russia? Rotten to the core cleptocracy with violent mafia-like government system, exorbitant abortion, divorce and HIV-prevalence rates, and millions of "social orphans"? Do we want the New World society to resemble Russian society, where the fear and vomit-inducing servilism towards those in power mixes with violence and contempt towards those "beneath". A society of the new world in which a cleptocratic "elite" sh*ts into golden toilets on their superyachts while 99% of others can hardly make ends meet? Why would anyone in their right mind want such a new world?


Well, there are idiots everywhere. I don't, however, recall anyone here saying any such thing.

That's no metaphor, those are facts.


With no morals, no principles, no shame, no empathy, no regret, no self-reflection. Yes, that's RuSSia. Who wouldn't want be "friends" with such a country, right? lol 🤦

If NATO stayed where it was in 1990 we would not be having this conversation.
No, Russia is not planning to invade Poland. It did Ukraine because Mr. Lastmanstanding listened to the DC greedy morons and had Ukraine pay for it dearly.

The US invaded its Southern states for similar reasons and caused 600,000 deaths. Russia has ways to go before that number is reached.

...then Chechenya, Georgia and Ukraine would happen in Estonia, Moldavia and Poland.


There were people in August 1939 saying the same thing about Nazi Germany. Luckily, Ukraine bought us some time to prepare.

@Novichok, you don't know what would happen if NATO stayed where it was in 1990. Poland and other former communist states didn't know either and that's why they joined NATO.


The RuSSian propaganda gives an impression that they would really want to :))) But they can't because Poland is in NATO now :)))) 👍

Ukraine had not initiated one iota of violence against russia before russia invaded in 2014... so you're lying, what a surprise...

russian identity is built on a network of lies.... it's cognitive dissonance all the way down trying to be resolved by calling it 'truth'

russians live in garbage infested poverty because they let the powerful steal from them - they console themselves with the thought that they are a great power

russian culture is not wanted anywhere - they console themselves with lies about how wonderful it is and how the world would want it if they just knew it (I know! let's invade and cram it down their throats!)

russians cannot tolerate self-determination because it means ignoring russia and a bunch of hysterial psychopaths can stand anything but being ignored...

just stay inside russia and lie to yourselves all you want, just leave your neighbors out of it

@GefreiterKania, yes, exactly - Estonia has a big RuSSian minority and there were similar problems with their rights as in Ukraine. There was the same RuSSian propaganda about Estonians being "Nazis" like in case of Ukrainians. I've discussed with RuSSian Putinists at that time, so I know this rhetoric already. Who could guarantee that Putin at some point wouldn't decide to "save" the RuSSian minority in Estonia from the "evil Nazis" by invading Estonia? RuSSia won't do it now, because Estonia is in NATO.

Serbia had not initiated one iota of violence against NATO before NATO invaded...

@Velund, NATO bombed Serbia - it didn't invade and occupy it and it didn't annex any of Serbia's territories.

As for violence - a quote from Wikipedia:

"NATO's intervention was prompted by Yugoslavia's bloodshed and ethnic cleansing of Albanians, which drove the Albanians into neighbouring countries and had the potential to destabilize the region. Yugoslavia's actions had already provoked condemnation by international organisations and agencies such as the UN, NATO, and various INGOs. Yugoslavia's refusal to sign the Rambouillet Accords was initially offered as justification for NATO's use of force. NATO countries attempted to gain authorisation from the UN Security Council for military action, but were opposed by China and Russia, who indicated that they would veto such a measure. As a result, NATO launched its campaign without the UN's approval, stating that it was a humanitarian intervention."

NATO did not invade Serbia... is that what this is about? Has the lying russian media been telling you that NATO invaded Serbia all these years?

Nuts.... why would you believe them, you know russian media is all a cesspit of lies and disinformation....

Also:

"the bombings continued until an agreement was reached that led to the withdrawal of Yugoslav armed forces from Kosovo, and the establishment of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo, a UN peacekeeping mission in Kosovo."

So, Velund, as you can see it wasn't done in order to make imperial territory gains by NATO, but for humanitarian reasons. While RuSSia wants Ukrainian lands for itself (or even the whole of Ukraine).

Refugees fleeing Kosovo: