Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

No. A Russian dying for Russia is a patriot. A Pole dying for Ukrainian "democracy" and "freedom" is a moron aka a useful idiot in service of US MIC.

You are welcome.

I understand..... God, let Russia have as many patriots as possible.

They are not even dying for their country, only for the Tsar.

And the dead are not respected either by their commanders or by civilians back home - bodies are literally shovelled into landfill, lives are exchanged for teatowels and cheap Lada's that will last about as long as a jar of ogorki, wounded are made to pay for their own medicine.

russia can never have too many patriots when they invade where they're not wanted or needed....
they need to learn to stay home

what is the deal is being in russia so awful they have to constantly leave?

Typical russian family....

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And what's your proof for that?
Also, I wasn't asking about now. Now there's a war in Ukraine and a lot of people left their cities, towns and villages or Ukraine in general.There are a lot of internal refugees in Ukraine from the East and the South of the country who had to find refuge in the West and North.

I'm asking about the period from the fire in Odessa in 2014 to the start of the full scale RuSSian invasion in 2022. That's 8 years. What was happening in Odessa during those 8 years? Was there any ethnic cleansing happening? Where there any pogroms on RuSSian speaking people? Were RuSSian speaking people chased down the streets by an angry Ukrainian-speaking mob?

Great post.
Russian pigs cannot respond.

Personal communication with recent refugees, who was able to leave country via Moldova and come to their relatives near Moscow. In fact, I was told that active moving of families of servicemen from Western Ukraine started before 2014, and speeded up after.

And about "what happened with..." you can ask someone like Vladimir Grubnik (member of anti-banderite resistance from Odessa who spent years in prison and was exchanged to ukrainian POWs). There is a lot of interviews published. In short - total terror against anyone trying to publicly express their dissent with banderite agenda.

Quoting:

Angry mob surrounds Russian ambassador in Warsaw
The crowd demanded that the diplomat remove the Saint George's ribbon from his jacket
An angry crowd has prevented the Russian ambassador to Poland, Sergey Andreev, from laying a wreath at a military cemetery in Warsaw on Victory Day.

The mob surrounded the Russian delegation as it arrived at the site on Tuesday.

Poland has its BLM thugs. Bravo, scumbags...

For those who don't know who Vladimir Grubnik is: Odessa man. A hereditary doctor. Surgeon of the highest qualifications. Candidate of Medical Sciences, lecturer at the Odessa Medical University, member of the European association for endoscopic surgery.

An activist of the Odessa Anti-Maidan and Kulikovo Polje, after the May 2014 - in an illegal situation, one of the leaders of the guerrilla underground. Thanks to a well-organized conspiracy, his militant group held out much longer than the others, giving the banderite Gestapo a real headache with its operations, and did not dissolve itself

He flatly refused to give up the opportunity to go to really safe places. Being exposed by provocateur, he actively resisted arrest. During the trial he refused to recognize the jurisdiction of the ukrainian court and, except for a political statement, he said nothing.

He received a harsh sentence, served four years in hell. He probably would have been killed, but the surgeon Grubnik is well known in the West - his colleagues from Germany even brought in the European Court of Human Rights - and in the end, the unbroken prisoner was transferred to the Russian Federation under "special conditions" (one for several freaks valuable for the Dumpster).

PS: After his release, Grubnik stated that he could not continue to practice medicine because he is no longer able to remain impartial to patients as a physician.

Quoting:

Speaking at the event, Putin, among other things, accused "globalist elites" of "keeping insisting on their exceptionalism." These powers, he argued, "provoke bloody conflicts and coups, sow hatred, Russophobia and aggressive nationalism, destroy traditional family values that make a human a human."

He went on to claim that the US and its allies are seeking to destroy Russia.

I couldn't say it any better. I would, however, mention the LGBT perverts kept away from Russian kids. Lucky kids...two genders, one mommy and one daddy...

Unless they are беспризо́рные - millions of them - they can have mommies and daddies but those mommies and daddies don't give a flying f*ck about them, so they have to resort to stealing and prostitution to survive. Millions. Yeah, "lucky" so-called social orphans. Brilliant family values there. Plus exorbitant rates of abortion, divorces and HIV prevalence.

When will Putin's useful idiots stop spreading nonsense about moral, upright Russia defending traditional family values?

Serbia/Crnogora, the land of inbred retards and genocidal war criminals.

Russians can't help but spread lies and manipulations, even in such a short 3-minute video. Pathetic.

And how many years ago was the last time you saw someone who looked like a neglected child on the streets of Russian cities?

Me, probably, 10 years ago. Here are some of obvious alcohol addict patients who collect carts in the parking lot of the Auchan, abandoned with a 10 ruble coin in the lock, to take to the collection point and put another coin in their pocket, but they are clearly over 50 years old and clearly not homeless - and by evening they are completely fine... ;)

But at the time when the Western media was praising Russia for its stubborn march towards democracy, and bandit-looking "businessmens" were sneering that "the journey to democracy only provides meals for business class" - that was more than enough.

A practical observation: the more the Western MSM praise Russia, the worse it gets inside the country. And vice versa.

But US soldiers dying in other countries are not patriots? Based on all the statements made about the US mic and the wars in other countries, this looks like a double standard yet again.

Of course this is a war on Russia and the Russian way. Thanks for stating the obvious. That war though wouldnt have started without little Vlad's invasion of Ukraine. See how that little piece of information is always ignored by the Putinazi's?

@Crnogorac3
Dont want problems with Poles, then dont cause problems for Poles. Simple concept. Run along now, and let the adults talk.

@Velund
You must be packing your gear soon. The way Russians are dying in Ukraine, your number has to be coming up for reactivation.

Zhopnix big mad!

Zhopnix post a lot!

Zhopnix big sad.....

Today, around 3am, in email, I found a summon, dated 10.05 to be in military comissariate 11.05 with all documents "to update documentation". ;) Obviously, check on "gosuslugi" confirmed that this "summon" is a fake - ukrainian CIPSO started new round...

Otherwise, nobody yet need tanker that trained for T-64B/BM line... ;)

youtu.be/NXreSAXf1V8

He released his latest hit "МЫ" - "We" just before the May 9th victory parade in Moscow.

Shaman has with his lyrics single handedly inspired new generations of young patriotic Russians.

youtu.be/GORiokugKPo

My thoughts are that this war is actually a blessing in disguise for Russia as it effectively puts a stop and prevents the westernization of Russia.

Even Russians living abroad like Bobko will be now returning to the traditional Russian values.

Only if Putin wins....if it doesn't end well the westernization will speed up mightily! Nobody wants to be seen with a loser....

That's where you are wrong

Russia needs big help, big time. The source of their darkness needs to be extinguished

They are crying for help, people just don't see it. They don't want to see it, they don't want to show it due to their pride

I dunno....the story about the superiority of the aryan race did lose lots of it's shine with all the foreign troops in a destroyed Berlin and Hitler offing himself like a coward...

Define "hit".... he's pushed by the official media, but from what I hear, no one listens to him unless they're forced to....


That's what people thought after 1991... "Finally russians are ready for civilization! Let's welcome them! Let's not make them dwell on the horrors of the USSR, they surely hated it too!" Meanwhile russians had completely different ideas: "Let's steal everything we can and ruin society with organized crime!" That wasn't forced on them, it's what they chose.

So... not so optimistic about the war simply ending badly... they need to face up to what they've done (like Germans have).

Not quite true, The Russian government decided to trust the US and on the "advice" of these advisors a small government rapid privatisation program was implemented.

The result was a catastrophe exposing the lie that capitalism is the natural state of things that evolved organically alongside human development in general. Asset strippers and kleptocratic institutions both domestic and foreign flooded into Russia robbing the people. As much as I dont like him (to his credit) Putin stopped this and subsequently fell out with the so called west. The klepto individuals the west™ likes to hold up as some kind of freedom fighters have had their back stories memory holed.

That transition wasn't easy for the GDR either, alot went wrong....without the money and social support from western Germany the East would had crashed as bad as Russia did, surely!

Thing is that event was a one-in-a-lifetime happening, with nobody having any experience with that and no idea how to go about it best...

There's a lot to criticize about the "advice" from the harvard idiots (driven by ideology and greed) but some degree of chaos was guaranteed and unavoidable, the soviet system was constructed so that it could not be dismantled without bringing about some degree of chaos.

the 1990s was essentially the capital accumulation stage known as "savage capitalism" (dziki kapitalizm in Polish) which was harsher and more violent than it needed to be due to structural features of soviet and russian society.

the 1990s were turbulent in other countries of the region but no other


How? The more likely assumption is that it burnt itself out as there were enough power players who wanted to go legit.

@Bratwurst Boy
The transition wasnt easy for any country however in Russia (on advice) they took the most extreme shock therapy which led directly to Putin. I am not blaming the "west" for this war just trying to put a bit of context to others comments which I think crass.

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Ideology is always the problem

One problem in the USSR (then russia) was that rather than open up the system (as in Poland) directly they chose a system where the government granted concessions... this created a visible capital class which became an immediate target of organized crime. The offensive and defensive actions of those two groups were basically the mafia wars.

Also the USSR had a lot more capital to fight over (in the form of natural resources) than did places like Poland.

There was probably no possible soft landing for the USSR and while it's possible to think of alternate exits from the old system they probably would have been no less traumatic.

Dont look now, but Ukraine took out a few hundred Russians today and captured a few hundred more. A large area of Bakhmut has been swept clean of the Russian presence a few square km of territory. All those Soviet era tanks going to be turned into easy bake ovens. Terrible way to die.

I believe it was you who was bragging how Russia now has the majority of Ukraine natural resources wasn't it?

Why are Russian soldiers in Ukraine? It is an illegal occupation.