Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

Last year I've watched an interview on YouTube with a Polish volunteer - a leader of Ukraine's special forces team made up of foreign volunteers. He said that, unlike RuSSians, Ukrainians value their soldiers, because soldiers are their main asset. Also, obviously, number wise Ukrainian nation is smaller than RuSSian, it's similar to Polish in size and the country is bigger, so they can't just throw their soldiers at RuSSians mindlessly as cannon fodder.

bbc.com/news/world-europe-65550427

'the army still needed "some things", including armoured vehicles that were "arriving in batches".'


And what's RuSSia's excuse? They're not exactly moving forward either, are they? :)


Haha :D

One thing I always have more of is arguments.

To your point, I have a simple response, borrowed from Michael Kofman.

1) This war, on the Western media side, has been one long story of waiting for game-changing weapons.

2) The reality is that no single weapon system can act as a magic bullet.

3) With time, a countermeasure will be developed for each asymmetrical advantage any given side possesses. In the case of the HIMARS, it meant moving Russian command centers and depots outside the range of the system. It also meant tweaking electronic warfare measures that could interfere with proper targeting.

4) Since the HIMARS was rendered less effective, the conversation shifted then to Leopards. Once they got them, it became apparent that the real need is F-16s.

5) Even if they are one day transferred, F-16s will share the same fate as the HIMARS, HARM, Leopard, etc.

6) When you have a war involving hundreds of thousands of people, across an enormous front length, with entire economies subordinate to war needs - no single system will have an effect on the final outcome of the war exceeding 1% (number pulled out of my a$$). It makes for good discussion fodder on PF and Twitter, but that's pretty much all.

Yeah, we just saw that where a Russian missile went flying off course across Poland for 500 kilometers.
Or maybe Russia was just trying to provoke Poland, who will ever know.
Putin is not coloring with all his crayons.

It was apparently launched from Belarus (only they have the equipment to launch it).

@johnny reb

JR, would you clear your inbox, please!

Those are the two interviews I've watched with him - they're long, but worth watching (unfortunately they're only in Polish):





He talked about all kinds of stuff - his experiences, why he fought (he debunked the claim that they fight for money), the stuff he saw - what RuSSians did to civillians - he said that there were many "Buchas", it's just Bucha got famous, about Ukrainian and RuSSian soldiers, about the attitude of Ukrainian soldiers to Polish and other foreign volunteers, about shortages in equipment his team and other soldiers experienced, etc.

He sounded like a brave, very modest and humane guy. It breaks my heart that he got killed. 💔😭

Chwała bohaterom! 🇵🇱🇺🇦

My heart is fine. Stil 60 bpm. If that bs "breaks" your heart, dial 911 or run to the nearest ER,
I like his death as a warning to all the morons who think that dying for another guy's "democracy is not the stupidest idea ever. Another benefit: the average Polish IQ went up.

@Bobko
I like to quote non western media just to be clear.

1. There has been no changing of stories. Z has been clear, they wont announce the counter attack. Pretty simple.
2. No one is looking for or claiming a magic bullet.
3. HIMARS are still very effective and destroying Rissian positions every day. Not even the Russians has said they are not effective. Radar jamming is on both sides.

4. Leopards are not even engaged in the fight yet. None of the new tech is engaged. Dont start beleiving Russias lies.
5. Russia is not gaining any ground against Ukraine, they are losing ground and none of the new equipment is being used. Stop reading your own propaganda.

6. When all the new gear enters the fight, Russias losses will be great and fast. Make no mistake, when hell opens up on them, tens of thousands will die quickly.

Read your own Russian reports, reports from the middle east outlets. Russia is fvcked like a serbian Vhore on a pagan holiday.

In the first interview one of his stories shows how having the needed equipment (and in the right numbers) saves soldiers lives.


From the comments under the interview with that Polish volunteer:

"Mr Krzysztof was able to say much more than many generals and experts !!! What a down to Earth guy. Intelligent, brave, empathic.
Incredible. A hero."

"Watching this makes me proud and emotional that there are such Poles - a real elite in every aspect! Even though I often disagree with the author of this podcast I congratulate him on this wonderful episode!"

A dead hero - the kind Poles love.


...by the non-dead non-heroes.

Being alive has its benefits. You can comment about those who are not.

Come to think of it, when Ukrainians where babbling about the counter-offensive all the time, it was obvious that there will be none; however, now they are saying that there won't be any counter-offensive and that they need more time... hmm... maybe that's a sign that they will attack after all. ;)

We love and respect the living heroes too :):

dzieje.pl/sites/default/files/styles/open_article_750x0_/public/201907/ankona.jpg?itok=9-0s00cC

radioszczecin.pl/1,327171,ludzie-sa-piekni-weteran-ak-dziekuje-za-pomoc-wi

Tell that to this russian soldier..... it's being said this is pretty common, when russian soldiers get wounded they know that they're not going to be rescued because the russians leave their own behind.... so they off themselves (this is less gory than with a handgrenade which apparently also happens)

Failing to capture Bakhmut is worth.... how many russian lives? putain has had lots of potential off ramps and has cr@pped on every single one.... how many more russians are going to have to die for his vanity?

CW: russian soldier gets wounded and then shoots himself....

twitter.com/god_viking/status/1656488630620397569

There are real opportunities waiting for you in Bakhmut. Dead or alive, your hero status is in the bag. And medals, of course,...


That's their business to decide. Ask them.

My only concern is where the US globalist mafia gets the money to waste in Ukraine and how that debt will affect my grandkids.
All else, including Polish volunteers, can go to hell.

Goddamit Kania. Report to Moscow has already been submitted. Can you stop changing your mind with every piece of news you read?

All that crap about counter-offensive is meant to impress the warmongers in US Congress and to show them that the billions they could spend protecting our borders are "a good investment" when wasted or stolen in Ukraine. You know ... "democracy" needs money to stay democratic.

That Krzysztof guy was a former soldier. I have zero military experience. I'm also not a medic, so as a petite weakling with no military and medical experience I would be completely useless there and they simply wouldn't take me :) So, why do you keep sending someone like me to the frontline and you don't tell Velund and Bobko (since both of them very much support this invasion) about "opportunities waiting for them in Bakhmut"? :)))

In contrary to what Velund is saying he wasn't mobilised not because they don't need tank crews, but because he works in IT. He could volunteer, but he doesn't. I guess he doesn't want to be a dead RuSSian hero? His family is not interested in getting a brand new Lada or sth? ;)

So, as I already wrote before, you can go and "f" yourself with your HIPOCRISY, Novichok :D 🤗

Evolution of Ukrainian talking points about Bakhmut:

1) Bakhmut is a small and inconsequential point in the map

2) Hahahaha, Russians are dying like flies

3) Bakhmut must be held to prevent a Russian breakout into our strategic rear

4) Bakhmut Holds!

5) Bakhmut Holds!

6) Bakhmut Holds!

7) We wasted all our artillery ammunition fighting Russians in Bakhmut - urgently send more!!!

8) Events in Bakhmut are necessitating the rotation of reserves there from other sectors of the front.

9) Counter-offensive must be delayed.

Either Russians really are complete idiots who cannot read a map or an Excel sheet, or the purpose behind the Bakhmut operation was different than what was offered by the Ukrainians as an explanation.

To this day, I don't know where Bakhmut is. 🙄

Certainly not. That's what an intelligent being does - reads, hears, analyses and draws conclusions. If I ever stop doing that, it will mean that I'm dead.


Both Ukrainian and Russian official explanations of anything in this war are certified bullsh*t. I said something about this war a long time ago and everyone forgot about it a long time ago. In the future I will be doing some reminding, old-post-linking and Itoldyousoing. he he :)

@Alien
It's in Ukraine.

Well Velund is a reserve tank crew. Only one problem is no reserve tanks

And yes Orcs are really too stupid to read a map (plus they would forget the map anyway, because they are drunk). Excel ? In Muscovy ? Pull the other one !

That's not a problem in a RuSSian army - I'm guessing he has legs, so he can walk and shoot with an AK-47 :D

UT OH !
Britain just crossed Putin's RED LINE !
WW3 is on the horizon !
The U.K. has started supplying Ukraine with long-range "Storm Shadow" missiles to use in its fighting against Putin's invading forces.
This will be a game changer.
I don't think they will be able to reach Moscow or St. Petersburg though.

Now you really hurt my feelings. How am I hypocritical in your opinion? Aside from the fact that hypocrisy and racism are the two traits you must have to survive.


...because they were all destroyed by the UA? If that's the case, Poland can finish this war in a week,


Russians kill civilians.
Why so few?
They are incompetent.

This is when a man wants to pull his remaining hair out

That's what happens a lot on internet boards. A lot of precious feelings get hurt. Horrible.


Two facts are undeniable: 1. Russians do kill civilians on purpose. 2. They have killed surprisingly few considering the scale of this war.

Ad 1. I don't think anyone can have any serious doubts about this.

Ad 2. 8,490 killed, as of 10 April 2023, according to UN...

ohchr.org/en/news/2023/04/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-10-april-2023

... 8,490 killed in 14 months is about 600 civilians/month. Just for the purpose of comparison, German forces (Wehrmacht, SS, Luftwaffe etc.) are responsible for about 100,000 Polish civilian deaths in September 1939 alone - 100,000/month.

wielkahistoria.pl/krwawy-bilans-wojny-obronnej-juz-we-wrzesniu-1939-roku-niemcy-zabili-100-000-polskich-cywilow/

I wouldn't draw any far-reaching conclusions based merely on those numbers but it gives some perspective on the matter.

Which have been confirmed so far. It has been pointed out numerous times that we have no confirmation of how many civilians have been killed in territories that are currently occupied by Russia. Notably Mariupol which has been almost completely destroyed. If the damage and satellite images of newly extended graveyards are anything to go by, the number of killed civilians in this city is likely well past 10.000.

This has of course been pointed out numerous times by now, but since Rich can neither refute it nor make fun of it he just ignores it.

Another thing to consider is that Russia's targeting of critical infrastructure has likely caused a lot of otherwise preventable deaths on a scale that is impossible to predict right now.

Mein Gott! We really are posting some amateur numbers. Even retarded Americans managed to kill innocents at a faster clip in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Don't forget - the Ukrainians have been assisting us by fighting the war in the most cowardly way possible - that is, by turning every single population center into a fortress. Can you imagine how much more pitiful our civilian killing numbers would have been if the Ukrainians had actually met us in the field? Not barracking men in dormitories, schools and hospitals as they do now, but rather tents and bivouacs?

Incidentally, a Greek general yesterday expressed his opinion that Zelensky is liable for war crimes because of his government's policy of only engaging with Russians in urban areas.

Yes, the number is likely to be somewhat higher, but you must admit that when it comes to civilian deaths it is hardly a totalen Krieg on Russian part, is it?


Interesting. Do you have any links?

It is never a good sign if you have to make comparisons with the -widely acknowleged- worst kind of warfare in human history to make yourself look somewhat good.

The main reason why the Civilian death toll is so (relatively) low - aside from lack of data - is because the Ukrainian army succeeded in keeping the Russians away from their main population centers and in the case of Kherson forced the Russians to withdraw without much urban warfare.. Imagine if battles had been fought in Kharkiv or Kiev with millions of Russian artillery grenades, phosbor bombs et al.