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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



Paulina
13 Feb 2023  #631

@Novichok, define "war casualties".

How many U refugees are currently in Poland?

Almost 1.4 mln Ukrainians got a PESEL number in Poland:

gazetaprawna.pl/wiadomosci/kraj/artykuly/8572320,obywatele-ukrainy-pesel.html

At the end of December of 2022 there were 950 000 refugees from Ukraine in Poland:

infor.pl/prawo/nowosci-prawne/5635962,Polska-pomoc-dla-Ukrainy-2022-ile-kosztowala.html

Border crossings:

twitter.com/Straz_Graniczna/status/1615605804513591296?s=20&t=uShGkWTV4DCFK6Yyy0Eq8A

9.252 mln - 7.422 mln = 1.830 mln

So, I think it's hard to say how many there are at present, because the situation is fluid.

How much did Poland spend on U refugees?

rp.pl/polityka/art37286771-polska-wydala-na-pomoc-uchodzcom-z-ukrainy-5-5-mld-zl

How much did Poland spend on the war in U?

money.pl/gospodarka/tak-polska-pomaga-ukrainie-kwota-robi-wrazenie-6846194851625728a.html

Novichok
13 Feb 2023  #632

I didn't ask you.

Paulina
13 Feb 2023  #633

@Novichok, hehehe... :))) It doesn't matter. No excuses, mister. You got your answers from an insider in Poland.

The first thing about "democracy" is transparency. Poland is a "democracy" so you should know the numbers I asked for.

Indeed, we do :)))

takethat

amiga500
13 Feb 2023  #634

Great interview with head of Polish Armed Forces by cute Mika Brzezinksi and her BF :) youtube.com/watch?v=zOXaOd_h2hA

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2023  #635

@Novichok
When given numbers you ignore them. When given information you ignore or do not address it. Both after you request numbers or information. You deflect, delay, and then deny and accuse people of not addressing you properly. So, based on all this the only proper way to address you is "hey dummy".

Meanwhile, JP Morgan signed a memorandum of understanding with Ukraine regarding the rebuilding of Ukraine. And now, we begin to see where the private money will be made and the jobs created in Ukraine. Watch for some of the biggest and best construction firms to head to Ukraine from USA as soon as this is over. And when it comes to building, no one is bigger or faster.

mafketis
13 Feb 2023  #636

given information you ignore or do not address it

His entire game is to try to get people to waste their time responding to him and/or to confuse them. He's unworthy of notice.

back to the topic please

Velund
13 Feb 2023  #637

History Contest. Guess the year the quote was written and the author... ;)

"For a long time one could have foreseen that this rabid hatred, which for thirty years, each year getting stronger and stronger, has been incited in the West against Russia, would one day break off the chain. And this moment has come.

Russia has simply been offered suicide, the denial of the very foundation of its being, the solemn recognition that it is nothing else in the world, as a wild and ugly phenomenon, as an evil that requires correction."

jon357
13 Feb 2023  #638

has simply been offered suicide

That's fine by me.

And now they're messing with Moldova.

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2023  #639

@Velund
No one cares when or who. How's that?

@jon357
And the Balkans, and anywhere else they can go. Gazprom and others have now started their own PMC's. Something that has been floating under the radar. Not only Wagner any more, and Wagner also has some special powers now. Since only the President of Russia by constitution can commute sentences of Prisoners, Wagner was granted some special authority somehow, or is breaking the laws of Russia.

Velund
13 Feb 2023  #640

No one cares

"What experience and history teach is this - that nations and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted upon any lessons they might have drawn from it."

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2023  #641

@Velund
A German idealist who has no insight into the common era. Again another problem with Russians, thinking that the past or opinions from the past have any bearing on today or the future.

Not learning from history has not prevented Russia from repeating its failed history over and over again has it? Do as I say and not as I do is the Russian way. Nothing Russia has ever done on its own has been successful. You are just another delusional useful idiot for the state.

jon357
13 Feb 2023  #642

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

As another philosopher, George Santayana, famously wrote: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

All empires decline eventually. Those declines are inevitable and irreversible. The r*SSian empire has declined already.

r*SSia would also do well to remember the evils that they have done over the past hundred years and more in Ukraine, in Poland, in the Baltic countries and elsewhere, and the hatred and mistrust that this has engendered. Because those countries certainly do remember.

Tacitus
13 Feb 2023  #643

or acted upon any lessons they might have drawn from it."

No doubt future historians will borrow quotes like this in order to describe Putin.

This man has witnessed the historic and utter failure of the Soviet Union. He had a first-hand experience in Dresden on how maintaining a large Empire was unfeasible and ultimately ruinous for the Russian core of the Empire. That weapons alone do not guarantee success. Russia would be an infinitely better place if someone who understood this had taken power instead of Putin.

PolAmKrakow
13 Feb 2023  #644

Moldova President now warning Russian agents infiltrating the country. Warning they will try to overthrow the government. If this happens, I think Russia invites more than tanks from NATO to the party. I think planes from all over will be bombing the $hit out of the Orc positions.

Paulina
13 Feb 2023  #645

nations and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted upon any lessons they might have drawn from it.

What an irony that a RuSSist supporting a military invasion of a neighbouring country is quoting this lol You couldn't make this sh1t up :D

Because those countries certainly do remember.

Yes, RuSSia doesn't like to remember that part of it's history though. And so it hasn't learned any lessons from it and keeps repeating the same mistakes.

Paulina
13 Feb 2023  #646

General Vladimir Makarov, who was the deputy director of the Russian Interior Ministry's Anti-Extremism Main Directorate until he was fired in January by Putin, was found dead. He allegedly "committed suicide":

wiadomosci.wp.pl/general-makarow-nie-zyje-cialo-znaleziono-pod-moskwa-6866131351919232a

He was said to be the main organiser of "hunting for oppositionists and inconvenient journalists".

Karma is a b1tch :)

They justly deserved everything that happened to them later.

Wow, you're seriously sick in the head. But thanks for showing your true colours - what a rabid Pole-eater you are.

Not every neighbouring country is a country for real.

In your sick, twisted Putinist head. 🤢🤮

I hope that karma will get the both of you Putinazis too. 🤞

Paulina
13 Feb 2023  #647

but what Russia did to outside forces were that actions of the Tsar or Dictators.

Yes, great post, Kashub1410, that's RuSSian mentality and hypocrisy in a nutshell.

a perpetual victim of Russia, like Paulina,

Don't mock the suffering of my compatriots, Putinist scum.
I don't claim to be any "perpetual victim of Russia". I am fortunate enough to live in a Poland that is free from RuSSia and part of NATO and the EU. And it feels AMAZING :)

It may sound crazy (...) but this is indeed how many Russians think.

lol
Bobko, I've discussed with RuSSians for seven years. I know how they/you think all too well. Both tsarist, bolshevik and Soviet propaganda was getting that "Polish pany" stereotype into RuSSian heads and there are still remnants of that prejudice to this day. And it looks like this conviction that the conquered countries and satelite states were "milking" both the tsarist RuSSia and the Soviet Union is still cultivated.

I'm guessing that RuSSian children aren't being taught at school about how the Soviets were stealing whole factories from Poland and how Soviet soldiers were raping, killing and burning whole villages and towns. And stealing everything they could get their hands on.

jon357
13 Feb 2023  #648

what body of water separates Northern Ireland, from Scotland?

Read your own post carefully.

As I say, very few countries are as despised by their neighbours as r*SSia. In fact pretty well every country that has experienced their malign behaviour and actual atrocities wants nothing to do with them. Especially Ukraine.

Apparently they can't manufacture Ladas quickly enough to bribe the families of dead orcs (entirely r*SSian to value a cheap car over ones own son) and with the 5000 'elite' orcs mown down like turkeys and the 300 neutralised every day outside Vuhledar they will need a lot of Ladas.

Lenka
13 Feb 2023  #649

Poles have the inalienable right to b!tch about every single thing under the sun.

Yeah, who would complain about being attacked, country ruined and people killed...

It is quite rich you talking about that when your country just attacked it's neighbour because it's so butt hurt they don't want to be your friends anymore

Paulina
13 Feb 2023  #650

who would complain about being attacked, country ruined and people killed...

It is quite rich you talking about that when your country just attacked it's neighbour

There's something really wrong with RuSSians... It's like they're detached from reality or sth...

Yes, Poles have the inalienable right to b!tch about every single thing under the sun.

We have the right to "complain" about the wrong that was done to us by your country and your people, especially considering that you apparently don't even realise what was done.

WTF is wrong with you??

And first and foremost we have the right to TELL THE TRUTH and EDUCATE about what really happened, because Soviet propaganda LIED and was HIDING the truth from people.

mafketis
13 Feb 2023  #651

very few countries are as despised by their neighbours as r*SSia.

and they don't even get why..... sad, pathetic people in a sad, pathetic and fundamentally broken culture

twitter.com/VladaKnowlton/status/1625160854584066048

Be that as it may, I'm done fraternizing with the enemy.... I want russian soldiers in Ukraine to leave and if they don't I want them dead, in as large numbers as can be managed.

Miloslaw
13 Feb 2023  #652

, very few countries are as despised by their neighbours as r*SSia.

True.And Russians need to understand why this is.
At this moment they are not getting that information.

sad, pathetic people in a sad, pathetic and fundamentally broken culture

You summed it up Maf!

jon357
13 Feb 2023  #653

sad, pathetic people in a sad, pathetic and fundamentally broken culture

I touched on this when I answered @PolAmKrakow's post in random chat.

There's an aspect of racism; because r*SSians resemble the majority of people in developed countries more closely than they resemble peopl in the global south, we assume they share some of our values. They don't.

Miloslaw
13 Feb 2023  #654

we assume they share some of our values. They don't

Another great post!

You are summing up Russians perfectly.
They are as backward and corrupt as Africa, and yet some westerners see those white faces and just don't see it!

amiga500
14 Feb 2023  #655

WAR FOR THEE-- NOT FOR ME: The fire breathing Putin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov (L) daily exhorts Russian servicemen to greater sacrifice in Ukraine. Here he is with his 21 year-old son Daniilis (R)-- who dodges Putin's draft by working as a male model in London.

The hypocrisy of the Russian leadership is mind boggling they decry the west for multiple failing, yet their children cannot get enough of the good life in the west from Putin's daughter to the lowest gov technocrat.

PolAmKrakow
14 Feb 2023  #656

In more positive news, a report has come out that a Russian scientist who has been working on Russian fighter and bomber designs has shown up at the US-Mexico border seeking asylum in the US. The US has received the man and has said his information is very interesting. LOL The brain drain from Mordor continues.

Meanwhile, training on Leopard 2 tanks for Ukrainian soldiers began in Poland. Reports now coming out that those tanks should be in the field in the next six weeks or less. Right on time for a fresh counter offensive. Just when the Russian military bloggers themselves are turning on the Orc leadership and questioning everything the military leadership is doing. More than a thousand a day put through the meat grinder. Little Vlad might just be seeing that the old USSR tactics of throwing waves of men at the front lines just isn't working like it did 80 years ago. Happy gulag biatches!

Paulina
14 Feb 2023  #657

21 year-old son Daniilis (R)-- who dodges Putin's draft by working as a male model in London.

And Solovyov's older son is of fighting age too and lives in RuSSia apparently:

ukrainetoday.org/2023/02/13/photos-of-solovyovs-youngest-son-in-womens-clothes-and-with-manicure-are-walking-on-the-network/

Btw, Solovyov has eight children from three marriages lol Such a great role model and an example of Christian virtues lol

This is apparently his son who is/was working as a model:

hisson

😁

The hypocrisy of the Russian leadership is mind boggling

Yup:

animalfarm

and they don't even get why.....

Yes, and that's why it's easy to lie to them and manipulate them by the RuSSian leadership and to set them up against other countries and nations. Knowledge is power and RuSSian gangsters at the top don't want "the people" to have power over them :)

Tacitus
14 Feb 2023  #658

Fun fact: We are now halfway through the coldest month of the year, yet gas storages are in many countries fuller than one year before (in Germany: 73% vs 34%). Not only will Europe get through this winter, it is looking very likely that there will be no mayor problems for next winter as well.

jon357
14 Feb 2023  #659

Three bits of news.

Firstly, the r*SSian casualty rate last week was the highest during the conflict with 6,180 orcs neutralised.

Secondly, Poland is proceeding with the new container port at Świnoujście, despite attempts to block it by the r*SSia-supporting local government in Mecklenberg, across the border.

Thirdly, several orc planes attempted to enter Polish airspace near 'Kaliningrad' and were escorted away from Polish territory by Dutch planes.

Crnogorac3
14 Feb 2023  #660

Paraskoviivka in an encirclement. 👍

t.me/intelslava/44476


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